Don't bother, I wish this myth of a "helmet outline" would die.

I own a Great Helm and a Norman Helmet, neither of which can a person see an "outline" of when wearing them. A properly fitted helmet is designed to not restrict your view. My Great Helm, for example, was built around my facial dimensions such as eye height and distance between eyes. The only time you ever see any of the helmet is when you look with your eyes to the side or up and down....but seeing how that isn't modeled in the game anyway, what is the point of putting it in the game? A person who wears a Great helm into battle just needs to learn to turn their head more to look and move their eyes for fine adjustments.

I don't think ANY of these things are important enough to warrant inclusion. Sure I wouldn't mind them being there, but I don't want people jumping through hoops to get them in

if the helmet thing was in i would choose not to use it even in battle it would constrict vision just enough for something to sneak up there they wont let you see them this would work if virtual reality was an option but something like this would constrict vision to much.


the others could be interesting though however a tad excessive if it's on the list to add then its at the bottom of it and likely wont see launch.

No to all. Realism =/= Fantasy.

Seriously, Theese people are asking for all of the Small Pointless ideas, How about asking for something big

This is why I think it would be an interesting feature if they showed the edge of the helmet when you were turning or looking around quickly, since you often turn your eyes along with your head/body in order to see where you are going. They could show a sliver of the helmet on the side, top and bottom (depending on the helmet) but only on the side you are looking towards. Your view would not change if you were looking straight or turning slowly. I think if the feature were implemented like this, it would succeed in letting you know you are actually there and wearing a helmet, while not being intrusive.

Small? I.e. easy to implement?

Pointless? I would love to see my breath in cold weather, same thing for the 1st person legs. It would add a ton of immersion and take a small amount of time to implement (not to mention add as an option).

Well keep in mind it is only for the opposite eye of the direction you are looking (when looking side to side). By this I mean that if you look right quickly, only with the left eye do you see the nasal guard. No helmet I have worn has ever had an issue of restricting vision on the outside of the face (by which I mean that if you look right you will not see the right side of the helmet with your right eye). Up and down are another matter....only one one with the Great Helm (closed helms), but not with Norman helmets.

Overall, it is not anywhere close to being worth the effort of implementation.

Eh, up/down's not only an issue with great helmets. Got a kettle hat lying around here, and my vision is limited when wearing it. It's even a bit uncomfortable wearing just a padded coif, and with padded coif + maille coif, you don't hear very well anymore. Lots of factors there.

I hear fine with my padded coif and maille coif....its just a little hard after I put my Great Helm on over that too....but not terribly. I can see the Kettle Helm being a visible when wearing it (the brim anyway), but that depends of the variant, since there were so many. That being said, I doubt vision is really hurt at all downward in a Kettle Helm....and upwards it is no more restricting than the Doughboy Helmet and Stahlhelms I own.

pending on what kind of hair you get i wouldn't mind seeing a few strands if your in eye on a mountain if its windy. This could also be very useful in RP because if they put hair mechanics and they grow over time you go get a haircut xD

First person experience never seemed real enough for me. You're looking at a flat monitor with finite size. It always bothered me to see my own hands on screen, because they shouldn't be. Not unless the monitor is much bigger and your view is pulled further back. It's like my eyes are on my torso rather than my head.
To make this real enough, we'd need a curved monitor surrounding your view at least 180 degree and in 3D screen.
In any case, when I look down, I see my torso as well as the lower body. That's the expactations I have on 1st View.

they can't get their spears back so they look for things to complain about? would be my guess...

I miss my spears!!! but on a serius note however, I WANT SPEARS!!!
but on a topic-related note...
I would actually use first-person for other things than slashing (fp's anims were easier) if my entire body was implermented... i love seeing my armor...
I want the helmet thing... but only if its small... and unique for each helmet... and display texture....
don't care on the last one...

Realism is cool, but too much will make the game worse. I'm not too fond of any of these ideas.

I only want to see body and legs if they pull the camera back and show you the full length of your character's arms, too, or else it'll look funky.

Breath not for "realism's" sake, but just 'cause it'll look cool.

The helmet... adds nothing. :shrug:

Why would I want an ES game without Spell making, acrobatics(really, just the ability to jump high), or hand to hand/unarmed, three big gameplay mechanics verse three dinky aesthetic things? I wont buy Skyrim if they dont have these. Those three things are the only things I've said that about. Three things that have been in almost every TES game. These are things that just I want? These things are some abstract features out of the blue? No, these things are wanted by the masses and need to be in Skyrim for me to buy it. I'll just go back to previous ES games, or buy a gaming PC and mod Skyrim if they are out. Three pointless little features, compared to three big gameplay mechanics.

I dont care about seeing my legs unless I'm kicking. I dont care about seeing my breath and the helmet idea isnt very interesting either.

The helmet thing worked in Bioshock 2; I suppose it could work here. Still doesn't make me want it.

I would love to see some slight leg action but for my own selfish reason=

So kicking attacks can occur in 1st person (without the need of a mod and special nifscoped 1 piece bodysuits like in Oblivion)! =)

for the love of alduin, no!
id throw my helmet away (preferably at a wood elf) the second id see this implemented!
a bit of breath might work, but not too much
seeing a bit of your body could be good too
but not the helmet!
what do these people want for skyrim? pump realism into it until it explodes?
realism is good but dont let it take away the fun!

I DESPERATELY want to see a first person body in this game. Not including it is just laziness, IMO. Just because FPS's like COD don't include this feature nowadays doesn't mean that Skyrim shouldn't. Technology's advanced far enough where this should be a mandatory feature.

It really doesn't seem like anything special enough to inspire this kind of devotion. :shrug:

edit: But that's the essence of "differing opinions", isn't it?

I would want the helmet only it does cover your veiw with tighter helmets