I'm curious, would any of the "dirt" remain after you removed the mod? I played through the quest, and kept the mod in my load order until I realized how utterly it screwed up everything in the Shivering Isles, got rid of it and all was fine. So couldn't people theoretically, play it and then get rid of it without any problems?

I'm curious, would any of the "dirt" remain after you removed the mod? I played through the quest, and kept the mod in my load order until I realized how utterly it screwed up everything in the Shivering Isles, got rid of it and all was fine. So couldn't people theoretically, play it and then get rid of it without any problems?

I'm not an expert but you'd probably be fine to load this up, play it immediately, then uninstall it and your game should suffer no permanent ill effects. So I wouldn't let the problems stop you from playing this mod and then uninstalling it.

Hopefully, the author will clean this up though...but who knows.

This "mod" replaces every single Shivering Isles script with garbage. Several Shivering Isles scripts track variables. They're lost once you load this mod a single time in your load order. Even disabling the mod won't bring them back.

And that's only one potential issue.

Until this "mod" is fixed, I'd recommend to stay far away - or if you really have to play it, make an extra line of saves for it and don't continue it after finishing (and uninstalling) this "mod".

Do you know exactly how much it may have screwed up the shivering isles for me?and will it only cause problems for the shivering isles?

Simply put, I do not know, simply because after seeing the obvious problems I didn't investigate all others.

If you haven't been to Shivering Isles before uninstalling the mod, all should be fine in this regard. Though the mod also causes a lot of damage in Cyrodiil. I am not sure to what extend they stick - likely they're not permanent like the SI problems, but who knows?

Finding out when this mod doesn't cause damage is like finding out where to best store atomic waste in your house :shrug:.

I think you are overreacting just a little bit. I cleaned the mod to the best of my knowledge and have no problems in Cyrodiil. The problem of the mod are "just", IIRC, the script issues, some modified things. After that there might still be a few issues but no ruined save games.

The SI-replaced-with-garbage scripts will ruin save games already :rolleyes: .

That is why the thing in your head is for. Cleaning a mod does also mean using your brain. And, yes, I removed those, of course.

And as has been pointed out already, the damage to the SI scripts is fairly serious, if not fatal, to anyone who has spent any time in the Isles at all. With all the scripts wiped out (because they've effectively been decompiled) there's no quest tracking left in place. In fact, no quests there would work at all. And none of the stuff anyone had done would be counted properly anymore, and it can't be repaired. The save *WILL* be corrupted once this happens. All it takes is one load into the game, and blam, damage done if you save and then try to keep playing.

Cyrodiil doesn't take it on the chin as badly because the scripts themselves are still compiled, but they would wipe out any changes that any mods loaded prior to it had made, including the UOP, OOO, Frans, TIE, and some other quest mods. The "compile all" feature really is that dangerous. This is also why many activators have been damaged and no longer work, such as Ayleid gates. Busted scripts are like that.

Considering the level of damage that can be done, has anyone considered reporting it to Nexus and/or PES to protect the public?

Hello, It's Azkon, one of the Devs from the Five Blind Mice mod.

Our closed beta testing didn't reveal this sort of mess that was in the mod.
But then again, it was a CLOSED Beta.

Anyhow, as much as any of us would love to break open this mod and clean the hell out of it, the four of us are way too busy IRL since graduating college.

EDIT: Actually, all of these "Wild Edits" aren't wild at all. A lot of the objects used in our dungeon has their parameters modified to some degree. So as to not interfere with the original Oblivion game, these objects were duplicated. As you can see, there was alot of them. I am also personally guilty of this, since I must have duplicated more than 30 lights. Lighting was one of the important points in this project.

I'm sorry to say that updates on this Mod not be coming for an extended period of time, if ever.

For now, if you would like to experience FBM, I recommend backing up your saves and then dive into the Mod as is.
Afterwards, you can remove the mod and restore your old saves. I believe someone said that removing the mod also will remove the problems associated with it and backing up your saves will prevent any sort of save corruption problem.

I believe your saves are put in My Documents/My Games/Oblivion/Saves.

Again, I'm really sorry that we can't give active support for the Mod.

However, in the far future, there may be hope. Who knows.

For those who have been supportive of the Mod, Thank You.
For those who enjoyed the Mod, I'm glad you had fun.
For those who avoided the Mod, I can't blame you but I hope that if we ever release an updated version, you would check it out.

See you all!

Yeah here is the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1085819-dirty-mod-five-blind-mice-needs-patch/
And Anithinks ... you were the last one to post in that thread???