Why bother? What use does Britain have for Ireland... All it has ever done is cause us [censored] problems...
Oh and I do not think that Britain would have a problem after the war, with our greatest asset at this time being our Navy we would likely even after the 2 hour war have a huge navy.

You're forgetting a protracted battle with the middle east + a big fuel shortage (no Oil)

COUGH COUGH FISSION POWER COUGH COUGH

Ships float, they can be as heavy as they bloody want to be, they could make NUCLEAR FUSION powered ships, the fact that it is possible to have NUCLEAR FISSION... You could have some MEGA battleships with that power...
Not to mention they are active in water, Fission uses hydrogen, water... + electric current = hydrogen... Unlimted fuel?

Britain I believe would cope because;
She has already had experience with total war and survived.
Her sea power is almost impossible and EXTREAMLY expensive to destroy with nuclear missles.
She could lose her army in the Resource war, but she would still have her navy and that would stop a landing.

After the bombs the majority of her land would be wasteland but she would still have a huge navy just floating around.
Which begs the question why they havent show up in America... Maybe they were clever, Aftrica wouldn't have been bombed...
Maybe Britain after the war sailed her huge fleet of warships to Africa and now there is a single Super Power rebuilding her Empire with the Non Radiated parts of the world...
Ooooo I like this idea....

Its an interesting idea...but probably not overly realistic. Remember, post war Britain was a fair bit of a mess, at least as far as the economy was concerned. Also you should remember that though the RN, was the world's second largest navy, following the end of WW2, the USN still dwarfed it in size, and power. Also, if Britain wished to regain some of her imperial ambition, following the "Last Great War", then no doubt, there would be a greater interest in retaking East India. Though, probably the more likely scenario, is that the UK would have taken a volley of Soviet and Red Chinese ICBM's.

There is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine.... Which seems to be what you're implying with the combination of Elecotrolosys + Fusion.

Who needs to worry about nuking the sea power when theres that much landmass.... More than enough to make a nuclear Pancake with.

Industry worldwide had ground to a halt due to the lack of oil (thats in official canon)- Fusion had just become cheap enough to the point where its viable in commercial usage. its hard to fight a war with no Bombs, Missles, ammo, or new ships coming out of the factories...

If the US Navy is no more, I don't see why the Royal Navy would still be around.

Didn't the Enclave have, 1 or 2 US Navy assets?

Yes, but I wouldn't call it a "huge navy".

I'm guessing that Britain's Royal Navy, would probably have ended up like the USS Oriskany(Rivet City).

Also, I think that a post "Great War" United Kingdom, would be a nation of "Those who know, don't care anymore, and those who care, don't know".

And of course, old boy, that means only one thing. The magnificent Empire of her Majesty would rule the world on the back of those many ships, hell the British could fight off the entire Spanish Armada with less ships, why can't it tame the Wasteland oceans? -_-

Getting back on a more serious point, I doubt the iconic British Union Jack wouldn't still exist. Remember, the timeline diverged after WWII and the Union Jack survived that war, I see no reason it can't another. As for the Soviet Union I'd suspect it would look closer to the modern day Chinese flag, since we now know it only will have one star rather than many, I could see the Soviet Union going through its own internal upheaval through all this and having to reorganize within, probably, if Perestroika succeeded, then internal states would have more autonomy, rather than them breaking away, and I think the flag should reflect that shift perhaps with stars for each state. Its all speculation really.

Does Britain still own all her Colonies?
If so then she would have a few small battle groups of Warships based at her colonies during the war to stop them being siezed and to keep a steady supply of Collonial troops.
Britain at the time in which the time line breaks was also producing the most Warships she ever has, and we understand that the timeline breaks because after WWII the production of Armerments does not slow down, it increases.... She would build more ships.
I belive that most of the Chinese and American Fleets would get churned up in the northern hemersphere, in open water.
However if british are at war in europe, they have a nice closed water enviroment of the Mederterenian, on which they have a WWII Plane and Ship repair yard of Malta, and the only entrance to the Med for the Russians is the small water way next to Constantinopal.
Because there would be no Russian ships they would have complete sea supperiority and be able to just shell from the shore line all around Russia, giving significant advantage and meaning that her ships were so far appart they would be impossible to nuke all of them.

Thats just a few ideas ide like to contribute.



OMG the Commonwealth from F3 should be the British Expoditionary Forces, This would ACTUALY mean Bethesda could add a realistic new faction to F4...
-Just a funny idea that hit me...

Before the Resource Wars? Probably yes. After the Great War? Nope.



The Commonwealth is Massachusetts. And no, it wouldn't be realistic. Britain was destroyed just as much as the US.

wouldnt a big powerful navy get nuked too? if i were a world leader i certainly would nuke my opponents navy.

The problem is, you can't really nuke ships it doesn't work as well as many people thinks it would, I think the energy of the blast dissipates in water or something. I'm not really a physicist. I just know it doesn't work. But, that doesn't really matter, the Resource Wars pretty much obliterated most of Europe and its naval and military assets. Remember, Tenpenny was a refugee, not a tourist. Her Majesty isn't God on earth nor is Britain just because it survived WWII. They didn't have oil, like everyone else, so they fought for it and lost, like everyone else.

Not Britain a docked ship on the coast of America.
I dont know what state, maybe say.... Massachusetts.

You cant Nuke ships, when chosing whether to lauch a nuke you have to choose..
Whether the target you are hitting is worth the nuclear bomb you are launching.
Would China or Russia nuke a city or a small group of boats?
Not to mention its alot harder to hit a ship than it is to hit a City, not to mention Cities tend to stay in the same place....

Also as I said, you do not sit your whole navy in one place, unless your America at Peace time. (Pearl Harbour)
Meaning that the Russians or Chinese would have to launch maybe 11-16 nuclear bombs at seperate War groups of Warships, this is if they consider them "Viable Targets" I think it is unquestionable that atleast one War group of ships would survive and one War group is enough to dock on non nuked soil such as Africa and set up a civilisation.

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Africa, got nuked. After all, Africa, in the Fallout Universe, would be under its colonial administrators, and thereby make it a prime target. The RN, is in the same shape as the USN...maybe 1 or 2 ships....MAX!

Africa was one example...
Africa, Spain, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Argentinia, Peru, Chilli, Brazil... All the places that wouldnt have been bombed.

Where talking about the British Navy not the Russian or the US Navy.

If you wish to discuss the Royal Navy, then post in the following thread:

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=940536

well you can nuke ships, with EMP and detonate it in the air above the ships. and i would think that in the final hours of civilization in a nuclear war you launch every nuke you got at pretty most everthing your enemys got, a world leader facing global nuclear war would prob go all out, no need to save expenses or leave anything in your enemies nation standing.

Back on the subject of flags, My guess is that the 2077 Aussie flag might not be too different from the flag revisions seen in 1950s, though the star under the Union Jack may have more or less points and the flag may even have a different background colour.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Australian Flag, have a red background until the 1960's?

So says the Wiki:


So Blue would be correct, the Red is used for Shipping.

Chinese (or Soviet, one of them appears as a loading screen, can't recall which one it was though) appears the same.

Being that the communists, generally went for drab(a great example...East German apartments anyone...) over decoration, I would see no reason why they would change their respective flags. Similarly, the only change you might see to the Union Jack, would be the exclusion of St Paddy's Cross(but then again, most good republicans, would tell you that St. Paddy's cross ain't exactly Irish anyhow).