Some flags of the Fallout Universe:
The United States of America:
Star Spangled Banner:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/US_flag_49_stars.svg
Commonwealth Flag: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images//7/7c/USA_Flag_Pre-War.png

Canada: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Flag_of_Canada_1921.svg


The New California Republic: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images//2/2e/NCR_Flag.png

The Enclave: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images//7/7c/USA_Flag_Pre-War.png

The Soviet Union: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg

The United Kingdom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg

Communist China: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg

Given that the United States flag was changed, we can't be certain that the UK, Soviet or Chinese flags weren't.

Well here's an idea, to keep this thread from going stale:

Design a Flag for:

The Soviet Union
The United Kingdom
The Dominion of Canada
Communist China

Remember....think 50's Retro-Futuristic....

Here's a flag of the European Commonwealth designed by Daesch of The Vault:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Image:European_Commonwealth_Flag.png

there is small pictures of the chinese flag on the uniforms, if im not mistaken.

The British flag is over 400 years old... It will most likely be exactly the same in this time line...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Union_flag_1606_%28Kings_Colors%29.svg/800px-Union_flag_1606_%28Kings_Colors%29.svg.png
The other two flags he has chosed for Russia and China are both the flags that were used during the 50's period and thus we could pressume its possily still the same one.

The current version of the flag is only 200 years old. It could have been changed to e.g. include Wales as well, or exclude Ireland (in the Fallout universe, Northern Ireland could be independent from the UK, or the whole of Ireland could still be part of the UK).



Well, the US flag in Fallout is not the same as in the 1950s, so the Soviet and Chinese flags could hav some differences.

Here's an Operation: Anchorage screenshot, showing the Chinese flag. It has only one star, without the smaller four stars from the real-world flag:

http://www.insidegamer.nl/pc/fallout3/screenshots/127284

I think even if Great Britian lost either; N Ireland, Scotland or Wales it would not ammend the flag at all.
It is essentially 400 years old, and the last ammendment was 200 years ago.

The British flag has not changed even after all of Britains colonie were lost;
America became independant, the flag did not change.
Australia, New Zealand, African Colonies, India, Canada.... No changes.

There are no symbols of America, Australia, New Zealand, African Colonies, India, Canada on the flag. It includes the patron saint crosses of England, Scotland and Ireland. So they would likely amend the flag if they lost either of these.

Well, the St Patrick cross is rather dubious anyway. Since it is of so little relevance to Ireland it is not something that would have to be removed.

Well, I think if they lost Northern Ireland, they'd revert to the England+Scotland version of the flag.

Please read the first two lines of my post...






I disagree, unless actual legal force was pushed to change the flag I do not believe it would be.
The differences would be tiny, yet It changes the image that has labelled the country for 200 years.
It is the same reason the UK will never use the Euro.

I dunno... I mean essentually Annuling the second act of Union would mean Ol' Pats cross didnt make sense, But it would make space for a cross to be added for the Welsh...

Of course all of this is assuming that in Fallout's world the Scottish Nationalists never got to follow their dreams either - the UK could be limited to England and Wales...

I think that at least up to the Resource Wars, the UK was pretty strong, with the colonies of the British Empire and the whole of Ireland being under British rule. However, I think that Ireland and Scotland could have gained independence during the Resource Wars.

Ireland, would have definitely been independent, at least as far as the "Irish Republic" is concerned. Even in our world, the Irish Free State came into being in December of 1922. Also since the "Troubles", never would have occurred in the Fallout world, it is safe to assume that Northern Ireland, would still be under home rule, rather then direct rule from Westminster.

Well, if the US annexed Canada, I don't think it would be unfeasible for the UK to annex Ireland.

The Annexation of the Irish Republic....

That would definitely be an interesting addition to the Fallout Lore! ( "Patriot Games" anyone?)

Perhaps to spur on annexation: An IRA bomb detonated in London, kills the Prince of Wales, and his family....

one thing that ive come to ponder about is the Warzaw Pact, would it still be in place along with East-Germany in 2077? cant remember reading about it on the wiki.

or have the European Commonwealth "annexed" the eastern parts or is it just the western parts? (France, England, West-Germany, italy, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Scotland, Ireland, Holland, Belgium, and Spain)

Since the Soviet Union still exists in 2077, it would be safe to assume that the Warsaw Pact remains as well.
As per Franco's Spain...there has been some debate as to whether it would have joined the European Commonwealth(assuming that Spain remained a dictatorship).

Well, it very well could have, given that the EC was quite different from the real-world EU.

Actually, being that the Soviet Union didn't fall, yet China seemed to win as the successor to Stalin, (see: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=0), then it would be save to assume hard-liners probably didn't take over in the Soviet Union and it went the same way China did in our time line, using industry and resources to compete in western markets and wage economic warfare for what it wanted (beating the Capitalists at their own game sort of speak).

Then again, for all we know...Gorbachev existed in the Fallout Universe as well, and therefore Glasnost and Perestroika might still be the rule of the day, in the Soviet Union. Even more interesting, maybe a "New Union" was established, and the famous "Coup" never occurred.

It would certainly make sense (and be an interesting twist), given that the Soviet-American relations in the Fallout universe were much better than the Sino-American ones.

Perhaps, instead of the USSR dissolving during the Coup attempt against Gorbachov, Gorbachov's star continued to rise, with Preresokia (Spelling?) working.

Perestroika.