FNV DLC..... Grrrrrrrr

Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:33 am

Hi guys and girls, this is my first post here and annoyingly, its a complaint. Not about the actual game (i've had all the freezes, NPCs getting stuck etc...) but the fact that Xbox owners are getting the DLC first.

I'm not here to start a console war but i'm fed up of game developers bending over for microsoft time and time again. When is the PS3 going to be seen as equal when it comes to DLC? WE always have to wait! Grrrrrrrrr!

Anyway rant over :)

FNV KICKS ASS!!!!
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Alex Blacke
 
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:56 am

I'm so glad I canceled my steam preorder and got the xbox version!

But seriously, Microsoft has the caps to do that kind of thing :shrug:
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:50 pm

I'm glad PC users aren't getting it first, that way they can't spoil the game by looking at the data files with the GECK.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:41 pm

I'm glad PC users aren't getting it first, that way they can't spoil the game by looking at the data files with the GECK.


:facepalm:
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:55 pm

I'm glad PC users aren't getting it first, that way they can't spoil the game by looking at the data files with the GECK.

:rolleyes:
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:44 am

Hi guys and girls, this is my first post here and annoyingly, its a complaint. Not about the actual game (i've had all the freezes, NPCs getting stuck etc...) but the fact that Xbox owners are getting the DLC first.

I'm not here to start a console war but i'm fed up of game developers bending over for microsoft time and time again. When is the PS3 going to be seen as equal when it comes to DLC? WE always have to wait! Grrrrrrrrr!

They're not bending over for Microsoft, they're bending over for money, although I do wish Microsoft would put more resources into actual exclusives rather than "exclusive" DLC.

And I put the word in quotation marks because I'm sure it will come to PS3 and PC sometime next year.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:00 am

yeah and red dead redemption got exclusive content for PS3 owners
and a lot of other games as well
so please lets not complain

lets not restart a console war

fyi i have both consoles
and often will buy the game, if i like it really like, it for both consoles
fallout 3 was a mess for the ps3, unplayable, bought the goty version for ps3
so lets not start a war

because i can compare the same game on both consoles
and both consoles have exclusives and very good points and bad points
that is why i chose to get both

how many ps3 owners have gotten the ylod? so please, lets not fight

and for the pc owners, i started playing games way back in the 70's
no longer play on my computer because i just got tired of upgrading etc etc

for me consoles are for games
my PC's have another purpose
again this is my opinion
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:55 pm

I knew it would happen. This is the sole reason I got it for 360. I am simply not willing to wait an entire year for the DLC of my favorite game to come out on the PS3. Not gonna happen again.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:04 pm

When is the PS3 going to be seen as equal when it comes to DLC? WE always have to wait! Grrrrrrrrr!

When ever Sony desides to pay more money than Microsoft for exclusives, is my guess.

They're not bending over for Microsoft, they're bending over for money, although I do wish Microsoft would put more resources into actual exclusives rather than "exclusive" DLC.

And I put the word in quotation marks because I'm sure it will come to PS3 and PC sometime next year.

What company is going to say NO to extra money? Even if Microsoft doesn't do this, and is threatening Bethesda to make them exclusive, why is Sony not ponying up so Bethesda doesn't do this then? Yes PC and PS3 will get the DLC later eventually. This is nothing new, people are actaully shocked by this now? It all comes to money. 360 are the biggest sales for Bethesda now. Do you think they will tell Microsoft no, we don't need your platform for sales? Of course not, they will not turn down all those millions of dollars.

Also I believe it's so much harder for some reason to make a game for the PS3. That is why it has more bugs than the 360. So that could be another reason why PS3 gets later DLC. It's not so easy to implement. At least they released the game on all platforms at the same time. Maybe the PC and 360 could have had this game last year or 6 months ago but waited so they can work on the PS3 version. So for DLC they don't want to wait and get it out and then the DLC will come later once it is worked out for the PS3. I am only guessing on this part not shure if it is true or not.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:43 pm

Lighthouse, thats fair enough, i stated i didn't want to start a console war :) just annoyed i have to wait while others get it first
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:03 am

Blame PS3 or PC first... when they release DLC its ready for all platforms before hand... its all up to the company to push the DLC. Xbox is just better that pushing DLC for big titles. Its how the system works.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:57 am

Are PC owners going to have to BUY the DLC?

Kinda wish that this was a Valve game... Their PC DLC is free; only xbox content isn't because Microsoft demands tribute.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:20 am

I'm so glad I canceled my steam preorder and got the xbox version!

But seriously, Microsoft has the caps to do that kind of thing :shrug:


I'm glad PC users aren't getting it first, that way they can't spoil the game by looking at the data files with the GECK.


To both of you. You are missing out on the one thing that extends the life of the game immeasurably, mods. Mods can change the game in ways you will never believe and fix errors the developers never fix. Who cares about "exclusive DLC" when no DLC adds as much to the game as mods do....which console users cannot get. Maybe next Fallout or Elder Scrolls game you will have a PC that can run it and learn how much fun mods and modding can be.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:26 am

Wow, this is going downhill fast. I am not fond of proprietary release, but it doesn't bother me either.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:45 pm

Are PC owners going to have to BUY the DLC?

Kinda wish that this was a Valve game... Their PC DLC is free; only xbox content isn't because Microsoft demands tribute.



More like Microsoft sees the competitive market. They understand that if titles will get money from DLC that gets released on their system they are going to do it, along with how Microsoft gets money for pushing DLC for titles first.. thats one thing I credit Xbox for.

Its a PS3 and PC issue that those DLC packs arnt being released the same time as Xbox, the DLC made by fallout is given to all systems at the same time... its up to the system owners to go through and stamp the OK on it.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:56 pm

Personally, I'm really hating the direction DLC seems to be taking games. I know it makes a boatload of money for everyone involved, but it has some serious issues.

First off, developers used to give out FREE content expanding updates to their game. Often times it wasn't much, but still enough to feel as though the developers were actually giving a care. If they put enough work into something, they would release it as an "expansion pack", which would be priced lower than a full retail game, but without the expectation of earth-shattering originality. I was fine with this model, and Bethesda themselves used to follow it back in those Morrowind days, where you could get all kinds of cool addons for free, but got charged for the big expansion packs. Now, even the slightest thing seems to cost money, and many games take this to ridiculous extremes. Bethesda seems to ride a line down the middle, definitely not putting too many important features behind a paywall, like Dragon Age, but they've also ceased giving out any more free content. Overall though, I'd rather have one big, well polished update than 5 half-assed updates that add up to around the same amount of play time.

Another major point for me, is that DLC increasingly tends to break the game world it's built upon. What's the point of scavenging the vast wasteland in the hopes of finding some powerful arms, when this cheesy four hour DLC will provide you with some of the best stuff in the game? I wish that DLC increasingly sold itself though increasing gameplay and a compelling seamless meshing with the original game world instead of appealing to collectors. Take Diablo II's expansion, for example. It made you actually want to replay the original game to take advantage off all the new features it had, in addition to the new content to play through. FO3's feels disjointed and amputated by comparison. The 5 mix and match mini-expansions seem to exist in 5 separate vacuums that are easily depleted. With the exception of raising the level cap, and the obvious ability to continue playing after the ending, I can't think of any other way they changed game mechanics. Furthermore, by overpowering your character, it actually makes the rest of the main game too easy, and thus hurts replayability. Features like FNV's hardcoe mode, weapon modding, and vastly increased crafting recipes would have been the perfect kinds of things to add through expansion packs to FO3 - something that doesn't just add new inventory in the end, but actually changes the way you play the game.

Basically, after playing F03's DLC, I have low expectations for New Vegas'. Some of FO3's was good, but some was just terrible. I personally enjoyed Point Lookout the most. None of it really felt like it meshed well with the main game, with the possible exception of Broken Steel. For a new game that already feels like a lower quality expansion, I can't help but wonder what the expansion of an expansion would be like.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:31 pm

I own the 360 version, but I still think the idea of console exclusive downloadable content is a horrible idea.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:38 am

Luckily, DLC is optional. :thumbsup:
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:16 pm

Personally, I'm really hating the direction DLC seems to be taking games. I know it makes a boatload of money for everyone involved, but it has some serious issues.

First off, developers used to give out FREE content expanding updates to their game. Often times it wasn't much, but still enough to feel as though the developers were actually giving a care. If they put enough work into something, they would release it as an "expansion pack", which would be priced lower than a full retail game, but without the expectation of earth-shattering originality. I was fine with this model, and Bethesda themselves used to follow it back in those Morrowind days, where you could get all kinds of cool addons for free, but got charged for the big expansion packs. Now, even the slightest thing seems to cost money, and many games take this to ridiculous extremes. Bethesda seems to ride a line down the middle, definitely not putting too many important features behind a paywall, like Dragon Age, but they've also ceased giving out any more free content. Overall though, I'd rather have one big, well polished update than 5 half-assed updates that add up to around the same amount of play time.

Another major point for me, is that DLC increasingly tends to break the game world it's built upon. What's the point of scavenging the vast wasteland in the hopes of finding some powerful arms, when this cheesy four hour DLC will provide you with some of the best stuff in the game? I wish that DLC increasingly sold itself though increasing gameplay and a compelling seamless meshing with the original game world instead of appealing to collectors. Take Diablo II's expansion, for example. It made you actually want to replay the original game to take advantage off all the new features it had, in addition to the new content to play through. FO3's feels disjointed and amputated by comparison. The 5 mix and match mini-expansions seem to exist in 5 separate vacuums that are easily depleted. With the exception of raising the level cap, and the obvious ability to continue playing after the ending, I can't think of any other way they changed game mechanics. Furthermore, by overpowering your character, it actually makes the rest of the main game too easy, and thus hurts replayability. Features like FNV's hardcoe mode, weapon modding, and vastly increased crafting recipes would have been the perfect kinds of things to add through expansion packs to FO3 - something that doesn't just add new inventory in the end, but actually changes the way you play the game.

Basically, after playing F03's DLC, I have low expectations for New Vegas'. Some of FO3's was good, but some was just terrible. I personally enjoyed Point Lookout the most. None of it really felt like it meshed well with the main game, with the possible exception of Broken Steel. For a new game that already feels like a lower quality expansion, I can't help but wonder what the expansion of an expansion would be like.


Why have you got equally low expectations for New Vegas? New Vegas is made by Obsidian and Fallout 3 is made by gamesas.
Though I am not happy that Obsidian has decided to do exclusive DLC. That's one sure fire way to piss off a large chunk of the fan base.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:59 pm

Bethesda is to blame...
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:40 pm

PS3 owners should maybe hold out that the rumored interest that Apple has in Sony is true. If Apple bought Sony, then we could have a great console war once again, which benefits us. I am a 360 owner, but I want there to be competition and innovation driving the industry. Its happened before and if Apple gets in the mix, could be great.

That being said, I don't like the exclusive DLC concept. Nor do I really like paying for DLC. If it were a bit cheaper, then it wouldn't be as bad. I am hoping competition drives DLC prices down.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:34 pm

*puts on flameproof suit*

That cuz the PS3 sux!

*RUN AWAY*
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:52 pm

Bethesda is to blame...

Check this board out
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/forum/112-fallout-new-vegas-pc-issues/

Then you have the people who aren't posting on the forum because they aren't having problems and they are busy playing. I play on pc. I've had a couple of freezes. I've run into no major glitches. Two bark scorpions that sank far enough into the ground for their tails to look like submarine periscopes. One supermutant that took lessons from the flying deathclaws and protectrons in the Capital Wasteland. I'm still running around exploring and have only done a few quests. Next is picking up a companion and seeing what that is like this time.
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:51 pm

yeah and red dead redemption got exclusive content for PS3 owners
and a lot of other games as well
so please lets not complain

lets not restart a console war

fyi i have both consoles
and often will buy the game, if i like it really like, it for both consoles
fallout 3 was a mess for the ps3, unplayable, bought the goty version for ps3
so lets not start a war

because i can compare the same game on both consoles
and both consoles have exclusives and very good points and bad points
that is why i chose to get both

how many ps3 owners have gotten the ylod? so please, lets not fight

and for the pc owners, i started playing games way back in the 70's
no longer play on my computer because i just got tired of upgrading etc etc

for me consoles are for games
my PC's have another purpose
again this is my opinion



The OP alrady stated he/she is not trying to start a console war so the constant pleading not to start one is pointless. The intent (as I gather) was to express displeasure with the other platform companies not dishing out the $ to receive the first content. Personally, I see both sides of the fence: I understaznd why Bethesda is going after the $ (that's why evryone is in business after all) but I can also see the value in keeping things fair amongst all platforms for the sake of the end users (whose opinions and wants should be given a priority)
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Post » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:04 pm

It's all about the money.
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