I'm back to running ye olde CPU systray client again after the GPU one failed on me... No clue what to do, as the things I did to get it running last time did not work now...

Again, I failed so hard... I fixed it. Turns out I had been reading my own (previous) steps wrong :facepalm:

So, it is all good now

At first, I thought that I had just knackered my client, but looks like a lot of people were having this problem... :unsure:
I managed to get some work after switching to allow for the advanced stuff. Cheers, Uncle Fuzzy.

:blush: :foodndrink: :goodjob: :hehe:

So I just grabbed the FAH client yesterday and I'm consistently getting this:

[12:00:37] + Attempting to get work packet[12:00:37] - Will indicate memory of 7993 MB[12:00:37] - Connecting to assignment server[12:00:37] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/[12:00:37] Posted data.[12:00:37] Initial: 0000; + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.[12:00:37] + Couldn't get work instructions.[12:00:37] - Attempt #4  to get work failed, and no other work to do.

I'm pretty sure I've got everything set up correctly. Does this just happen periodically?

EDIT: Nevermind. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14255.

Just a reminder, I forgot to heed myself.

When you install Windows, make sure to tell Windows Update to download, but NOT auto install. This is the second time I have forgot to do it (Or Windows re-enables it when updated. I've noticed a couple settings revert after WU completes. <_<.) and I woke up to neither client folding because Windows Update reboots the system.

I should set them up as tasks in the schedule to avoid issues like this but I have found that can have issues of it's own if not done right. You must give the first client to start a few seconds before the second starts (I usually give a 30 second time difference.) or the second client will complain because they both try and use the same resource at the same time.

I did manage to snag the PS3 back for the last couple days. I've been playing MGS4, and folding in the off time. My friend got a new PS2 game, (Destroy all humans 2) so I hope it will be up here for a few more days.

I've lost a lot of folding time due to OC instability lately. I had to downgrade my 3.9 to 3.8 again. It will fold for up to a couple days at 3.9, then it eventually BSODs. I'm pretty sure it's the RAM as P95 will run the CPU tests fine, but when I choose the "medium/hard" RAM usage options, it fails within 60 seconds.

Heh, sometimes the GPU client starts doing VPU recovery in a loop while I'm trying to watch some youtube video. I guess the ATI flash HW acceleration is so badly implemented that in combination with F@H it just hogs the system slightly too long. But if I drop that certain environment parameter value that might affect this, the GPU is nowhere near being fully utilized. Eventually that recovery loop will cause the whole system to lock up and I'll have to reboot manually. I can have the system folding 24/7 for quite a long time with i7-860 at 3.6GHz and DDR3 memory at 1368MHz. I don't think I've ever had a BSOD while running F@H, but I have had games crash to desktop quite often even without it.

You could run the SMP client as a service, but I'm not sure does the GPU client allow that. If not, you could have it start a little later from the startup folder. Or if you are talking about running two CPU clients, the other one could be configured start delayed as a service. Services can be configured to start automatically without someone logging in. If you want the apps in the startup folder to launch too, you would have to set up autologin. Or you could schedule something too.

Have you ever run memtest on the system while overclocked that high? Ok, maybe it's just an overclocking instability, or the RAM is being stressed too much at those clocks, whatever you are running the memory at.

I find F@H is a better stress test that Intel Burn Test. I've passed a 10 sample run of IBT @ 4.0, and F@H will BSOD immediately.

The service option is hit and miss. I've used it in the past but it got broken at one point. I never bothered using it after that. My PC already auto logs on, I just have to set up separate tasks for the CPU/GPU clients, with a 15 second delay. (Even 5 seconds is good, but I prefer to give it a bit more just in case there is a hang in the first client.) That way, should my Windows Update settings decide to auto default again I am not caught with my pants down.

Not memtest specifically, but even Windows 7's memory checker flagged errors. At 3.8 the 800Mhz RAM is running at 896Mhz and it passes the memeory checker. I left timings on auto after I noticed issues when trying to maintain the lowest possible. (Rated: 5-5-5-18. Running 5-6-6-21 on auto.)

Ooh, Windows 7 has a memory checker?

I don't know the exact timings on my RAM, but they are running on SPD settings at CAS 9 only. I didn't dare to go beyond the frequency that is stated on the SPD settings as maximum. So I settled with 684, or 1368MHz in DDR and that also decided the CPU frequency I'm now getting, even though in BIOS the settings are moderate at only 3.15GHz for the CPU and I often forget to run EasyTune that I'm using to overclock by software after rebooting to Windows.

The GPU client does give an error if I close it before closing the CPU client, but only sometimes. No problems in start up but come to think of it, I always start the SMP client manually and the GPU systray client starts automatically on reboot. So this means there's always a small delay and I hadn't even noticed possible problems yet.

Edit: Eh, according to CPU-Z, the memory is running at the CAS8 setting though. 8-8-8-22-2T at 684MHz. How'd that happen. I'm quite sure BIOS said CAS9 and the RAM was supposed to be CAS9 at 667. :shrug:

My 5870 started doing it last night, and the -advmetheds flag (Or possibly simply restarting it.) seem to kick it back into gear.

-advmethods got it working. Didn't realize initially that it would take 13 hours to do 1 WU and that I'd essentially need to leave my PC running 24/7.

Oops! :facepalm:

Running the SMP or GPU clients pretty much require leaving the computer on when you're not using it. SMP has a 3 day deadline and needs to run 24/7, but you should still be able to use the computer. The GPU has 5-7 day deadlines and needs to run several hours a day to meet that. Depending on what card you have, you should be able to use the computer for everything except gaming while it folds. nVidia cards will usually let you game with some stuttering. ATi cards tend to crash the client when you game. You should be able to stop folding for a few hours to game and still make the deadlines.

If you want to fold without having it affect your computer use, I'd suggest the classic CPU client. The deadlines on those range from weeks to months. The points aren't that high, but you can still complete them by running only a few hours a day. You can have one client per physical core in your cpu. You can start with one, and if you have a multi-core processor, add more until you notice a difference. I'd say over half the team uses this client.

There are only a few of us maniacs running all the fancy crap. :ahhh: :nerd: I'm writing this on a computer that is also running the SMP and 2 GPU clients. No lag, but if I keep at it too long I'll see the PPD drop on all 3 clients.

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My points for today will svck. Power went out while I was at work, and came back 4 1/2 hours before I got home. I lost about 6 hours by the time I got everything fired back up. :swear: :banghead: :brokencomputer:

It wasn't affecting my computer use, that wasn't the issue, and I don't care about 'points' I just don't want to leave my machine on (with all four cores chugging at 100%) all the time.

Then you might want to look into running from 1-4 CPU clients as services. They start when you turn the computer on and shut down when you do. Once the service is installed, you won't even see them. If you configure for small WUs, a couple hours a day would complete the work on time. If heat is, or might be, and issue, you could also set them to run at a reduced cpu usage.

I have a Radeon 5870, and I can game with the GPU client running. I get stuttering sure, and production drops to near zero, but it runs. Luckily it hasn't even gone into VPU recovery while gaming, but there is an environment parameter you can tune to help that. The latest clients allow even the ATI hardware to do some work I hear.

Sorry I'm late. I got busy and sorta forgot about this. :blush2:

We are sitting at #133 and should be at #130 for next weeks update. It will help when I can stop the BSODs I'm getting on the i7 so the -bigadv come in regularly. It was fine on SMP2, but I think the RAM speed is causing problems with the biggies. I just downclocked it, and it's been folding fine for the past 6 hours. I lost over 20 hours (and 8K points) on the current WU.

We have a nice list of milestones.
Patton1243 60,000 05-01-10
WTFimLEET 100,000 04-30-10
Chaul 1,500,000 04-30-10
Dremon_R 150,000 04-29-10
Fyrste 3,500 04-29-10
Alleystria 250 04-29-10
jaxawier 2,500,000 04-28-10
glymfeather 80,000 04-28-10
Paceline 125,000 04-28-10
Dragon32 500,000 04-25-10

WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER!!! :woot: :clap: :tops:
Alleystria 04-28-10 :cookie: :cookie: :cookie: :cookie: :cookie:

Fold on! :goodjob:


(I had to edit the crap out of this because the board didn't like all my smilies. Assume additional ones where you feel they are appropriate.)

About those cpu clients,iirc protomol if they still is around ?
-ran a few of them a while back,those protomol wu′s wasn′t so bad, on my modest amd 630 they gave some 200+ ppd /core/client,the most effective got 250.
big packets=big was used if that matters and -advmethods was used on two of them after I checked now,seems to missed that on one client,ran 3 of them btw.

Seems my ATI is getting half the PPD it used to. From 3800+ to 2000ish.

P.S.

Turns out my GPU was down clocking to 400/900 instead of 900/1300. Rebooting fixed it. It's back to 4000+ PPD.

That is good numbers, as long it doesn′t get too hot, on the other hand putting a oc′d 4850 between two other cards also oc′d (hd 2900) = 105 c ,a tad much :flamethrower:

SOB, it did it again. :brokencomputer:

I just sat sown and saw the GPU temp was 53C, not 70C like normal and sure enough it was 400/900 again. <_<

I just updated the drivers to 10.4 and hope that fixes it. It's not like it's overheating. The fan never goes beyond 30% while folding. (Hell, doing anything but maybe say, FurMark.)

I have had two instances when the fan started making a terrible rattle sound, (Separated by 2 months.) but it goes away after a bit. I sure hope my card is not about to kick the proverbial bucket. XFX thought it may have been something that had to work it's way out. I don't agree, as there are many cases of this online. It's an XFX card though, so I have a lifetime warranty.

Heh. I can only manage just under 500 pts and that's if I leave it going 24/7 (which I haven't been doing). 3800+ is pretty nuts.

Seems my previous 10.3 drivers were corrupted or something. I have had no more issues with down clocking since going to 10.4.

Currently the 5870 is at 60% done and reporting 4365.5 PPD. :celebration:

Nice 5870 you got there

Also, I passed 100k, w00t! :celebration:

Always fun to reach barriers,watch out though,soon you increase your goals,and suddenly you are hooked

btw I got my self a new tv,only 32" and hooked it up with one pc,played nfs porche yesterday,need some wireless mouse now though,more money in the drain
besides better for the project I use that pc instead of this one to play games,more contributions=points that way :hehe:

I just bought a 27" 1080p monitor with a built-in HD tuner and speakers to use as a TV- finally replacing my 20-year-old 20" CRT :brokencomputer: . They wouldn't leave it without a signature on Friday. Maybe I'll get it tomorrow. :shrug:
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#130!!!

We should hit 125 in another month. Anyone taking bets on if we can break into the top 100?

Milestones
Alleystria 3,000 05-08-10
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Ganon 250 05-08-10
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uncle_fuzzy 30,000,000 05-03-10

Another new member!!!
Ganon 05-07-10 :cookie:

Fold on! :goodjob:

30,000,000 for you, fuzzy