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Hurry back, we miss you.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=16668 6800 and 6811
Watch your OC and temps on these. They run about 10C hotter on my 450s and 460s and I had to back off the 450 OC. They also give way lower PPD.
GTX460- 15K down to 11K on both
GTS450- 6800- 14K to 9K, 6811- 14K to 7300.

The 6811 has a huge atom count. 6800 is just big. I ran the "normal" Fermi WUs in 1 1/2 to 2 hours. The 6800 takes 3 hours, and the 6811 takes over 15 hours on a 460, and 3 1/2 and 22 on a 450! :banghead:

I now have several boxes of new parts, but I'm going to do slow, careful builds and upgrades this time, rather than just slapping things together like I usually do. I've got a 5 day "weekend" after Thanksgiving, so that's when I plan to get the new hardware on line. This will my first top-of-the-line, water cooled build, so wish me luck. :goodjob:

I'm going to put together a media center/HTPC with the leftovers, once the dust settles.

Sorry, but seeing that even the Radeon 6000 series still crunch at the same rate as 4000 series, around 4k PPD, I've moved my Radeon 5870's theoretical peak 2720 GFlops to BOINC projects that support AMD Stream (DNETC and Milkyway@home) where this graphics card will be much more useful to research in general. I'll be back as soon as Folding@Home+AMD get their act together by bringing GPU3 to AMD graphics with proper support. Not fun when the app is only using one third of the capacity of the GPU and we've been waiting for a full year for things to improve.

I'll keep my CPU's and all other systems crunching for Folding@Home at around 8-10K PPD.

However, I've heard that electricity costs will double next year.. I'll have to look into that and see whether it's true or not.

I had one 6811 on my zotac 450 which gives slightly less than my 450 evga′s ordinary,dunno why but putting a gt 220 as physx-card gave huge benefit for those evga′s.
Removed advanced methods so it is back to 9xx-wu′s for now,suspect it only helps in short terms until those big wu′s get into the ordinary pool of work ?
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3578/foldingp6811.jpg

About ATI I don′t know but they working on new gpu client whenever that comes.
About powerbills that is the beauty with nvidia gts 450,they draw less than my old gpu-2 cards (gts 250 and gtx 260) while at minimum match contributions as gtx 260.

Anyway thought Finland was building a new nuclear plant ? But for scandinavia the swedes needs to get their nuclear plants running,caused a huge spike in bills here in norway last winter,that and the water reservoirs was very low then,it looks slightly better in that regard this year apparently,so far at least,fingers crossed

For my hardware,I need single slot if I was going to replace gt 220,gt 430 would double up the guarantied production to 4k while the powerdraw is pretty close,and still got 2 gpu-2 clients that draw quite a bit of power,6k on gts 250 and 353-work,8k on gtx 260 on 353-wu′s,and gts 450 would give 7-9 k regardless of work,still see those 9xx-thingys as bonuses anyway
But the jury is still out about what to get eventually,a note,my thuban likes the 6811 and 6800,less cpu load = more on smp

Yes, there is a new nuclear plant or two being built. However, we only have like 4 or 5 at the moment and a lot of the energy is bought from Russia or other neighbours. Initial cost of building the power plant is high, I suppose. Still, the country is just trying to become self-sufficient with energy for once.

Now that you are talking about energy prices in Nordic countries, you can take a look at this site http://www.nordpoolspot.com/ . It's the site for the electricity market for producers and energy companies. At least you can see area and system prices here and these should in the end reflect to prices that the end consumers get to pay in the corresponding countries. However, to end consumers, this site really only satisfies their curiosity.. The prices are EUR/MWh, you know. I don't know why Norway has 5 areas and Finland only one. Maybe it's because of price differences, transmission costs, or something like that. There used to be a link between East Denmark and Germany, but they shut down trading on that link. It used to drive prices up anyways.

thanks for the link, we do have a local similar list to compare local prices in norwegian currency.

Norway export a lot,and while they export gas their own gas plant isn′t operative,which I can agree somewhat makes sense until cleaning is in place,but it leads to shortages when the swedes isn′t fully operative when they repair their plants.Locally the goverment tried to upgrade powerlines in southwestern parts of the country to remedy a bit of the situation but it has been huge protest against it,go figure.For different districts here there is different supply lines into them,and between them which can lead to local shortages,we don′t have that as much as other parts of the country.

So water is important,that is why the reservoirs waterlevels matters.

the situation in Finland was on the news,don′t recall all of it,and one can think whatever one thinks about nuclear power but it gives a lot of power.

Thankfully when it gets below -5 C and lower at winter, the folding project does much of the heating,otherwise I need to open up some windows here,it gets really hot.
By the way I fully understand going boinc with ati,have a history with ati,3 cards gave 5k,in comparision the same as a cheapish nvidia 9800 gt,and less hassle with nvidia most of the time.
Even my lousy nvidia gt 220 beats ati hd 2900 anyday,and matches ati 4850 on a good day iirc,so we hope for the new client.

We do have several sites for consumer level price comparison too. These days it's possible to buy energy from a company anywhere in the country. The consumer and the company make a contract, but there are transmission costs that need to be paid on top of the energy price and these can't be contested. You always pay to the network your metering point is physically connected to even if you were buying energy from a different retailer in a different network. However, the site I posted is on a slightly higher level, for producers and energy companies. I know that site through work..

I read about the facts behind the energy price hike. It seems that our hydro energy resources are low and if the coming winter is just as cold as the one before, we are in trouble... In addition to that, the Swedish nuclear plants have had a low utilization level. Sweden has more than twice the number of nuclear plants we have in Finland.


I wonder... Is it true that Radeon 6800 series don't even support double precision math? Only the 6900 series will.

Then I've heard that both camps (AMD/nVidia) cripple double precision math performance just so that these gamer cards wouldn't overpower the pro cards that are made for it and cost a lot more. It's kinda curious that my 5870 is completing those Milkyway packets in about 100 seconds where it takes a few minutes for the top nVidia cards (400 series) to do the same.. It must be because AMD cripples double precision math much less than nVidia.

But, I don't even know does Folding@Home take any benefit from double precision math on the GPU.

F@H does NOT use double precision at this time. You can never tell what will happen in the future. That has been a long-standing misconception/arguement on the folding forum. You get people complaining about the great specs of the AMD cards compared to the weak PPD. The nVidia cards just happen to be stronger in those areas actually used by the F@H GPU cores. The great hope is that full implementation of OpenCL will let the AMD cards really shine. The issue seems to be a problem at the AMD end of things where the interaction of the driver/F@H core/architecture fail to utilize all the hardware goodness installed on those cards. I don't think the v7 client will make any difference on this. It will take new drivers and new fah cores better able to talk to each other for any big change to happen.

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We are still at #121, and due to move up 2 spots this week. The long-term trend looks really good. The teams on the top 5 threat list are now showing YEARS to catch us. I'll get the new hardware on line in the next few weeks. Today I'm upgrading the GPUs in one box and starting to lay out the water cooling in the monster. Top 100, here we come! :flamethrower:

Milestones :trophy:
Paceline 250,000 11-11-10
uncle_fuzzy 50,000,000 11-10-10
A_Flamer 175,000 11-10-10
jaxawier 4,500,000 11-09-10
Pjstaab 300,000 11-08-10

No new members. At least we are holding steady with around 20 active folders.

Fold on! :goodjob:

Hmm I have a question. I have a semi-weak system, c2d@1.8GHz and an ATI HD4870 gpu.
Just running the standard cpu the max I can get out of it is 50% useage (cause it doesnt see I have two cores). So my question is, does running the gpu client take cpu usage? How can i make use of both cores, would I have to use the SMP client or w/e its called and would it be worth it with just my slow c2d? Would the gpu client be worth it? I hear that ATI cards dont do nearly as well as nvidia for some reason.

I only get ~80 points a day

Also winter time is the best time for this since my PC will heat my room up like heater in the cold. So I leave it on 24/7 :hehe:

The classic CPU client will only use 1 core, no matter how many you have. It will load a dual to 50%, or a quad to 25%. With your hardware, adding a second CPU client would load both cores and give you another 80 PPD. Running the GPU client along with your existing CPU client would give you more points, and put a load on the idle core. The ATi cards are more cpu intensive than the nVidia, so leaving a core open would be to your benefit.

Your cpu is a bit slow to run the SMP. I can do it on my laptop (T6400@2.0), but it pushes the deadlines on the slower WUs (670x and 6040) and only makes ~800 PPD with the bonus. You'll make more than that with the GPU. I think a 4870 will make around 4-5K PPD.

In other words, keep the CPU client you have and add the GPU client.

Cool, thanks uncle fuzzy that helps

Da nada. :goodjob:

I hit a slight bump in the hardware upgrades- one of my gpus is DOA. The fan fired up, but no output from the card. I had 2 more, still in the box, so I finished what I wanted for today, but I'll need to do an RMA to be able to complete the last planned changes.

When I finish all this I'll have:
3x i7 running bigadv (930, 950, and 980X)
2x Q6600 running SMP (@3.0 and 3.4GHz)
4x GTX460
8X GTS450

The leftovers go into a new media center/gamer/HTPC.
Q9550
2x 8800 GTS 512 in SLI (I sold off my GTX260/216s )
dual TV tuner card
BD drive
28" 1080p monitor

Those 8800s will have to be upgraded at some point, but I'm going to try to avoid any more purchases for a while....depending on the reports on the new 500-series cards.

Wow, thats a lot of hardware, how many PCs do you have? And here im contemplating whether I should buy a $60 new hard drive lol!

You must get a ton of points from all that too.

guess whos back!

gotta admit that was a rather exciting war. In one week that forum got 26,475,451 points, the highest day being 7,738,621, and one individual got 1,575,482 in a week. Wish we could get that going over here haha, but they do have 750 folders. The team I joined ended up winning it all by 70k and I had 58k myself so I feel like I helped my buddy out. Back to business lets get our team in the top 100!

same as here then,besides the work part,don′t work in that field.

Sweden had repairs last year,and this year,and closed down "barseb?ck",looks like they are in trouble,good that I fleed the country quite some time ago

About time we celebrate uncle fuzzy and his 50 million barrier,awesome :celebration:

nice updates there btw,only got 4 gts 450 my self,and either wait for bulldozer or getting another thuban,alone without 670* they do around 11k on smp,and in theory oc′d to 4 ghz people reported running -bigadv with them,dunno about that,doesn′t feel quite right though,and have it rockstable at 3.74 regardless of work,a little short for -bigadv anyway.
After one gtx 260 got busted I run the remaining one paired with a 250 on another pc,they could be replaced but to what is uncertain,still nice wattage on gts 450,think I get a new cpu first though.

Only 5. I started with my mid-level gamer in early '07, and added another box every 9-12 months since then, aimed at folding. After the last build at the beginning of this year, I decided I had to stop at 5. Now, if I want to build a new one, I have to retire an old one. My current points come from 3x Q6600, an i7-930, 3x GTX460, 6x GTS450, and a pair of GTX260.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=235734


I was close last week (1,204,621). :whistling:


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You too can get big points if you want to buy hardware and have a high electric bill. :rolleyes:

yes I know that now,living in an apartment it is a matter of balance the heat,powerbills and number of computers,I have to live there as well

Oh I know, the heat is the biggest issue for me. Cold nights its good but it also dries my room out like crazy i think so I wake up with a soar throat some times.

Well, seen people running their folding rigs in storage areas and what not,the issue is to connect it all I guess,there is wireless but I don′t like that,what is left is ordinary cabling,or adapter through indoor powerlines,which cost around 500 NOK btw,and it is pricey over here.
For now I run my gear in my computer corner in my livingroom,and it gets hot unless it is really cold outside.

Dries out ? Ouch,another reason to keep it out of the bedroom ehh ?

Its my main PC though, I need it for homework, forums, gaming, music...

I just took my processor out, cleaned it of dust and applied some of my arctic silver 5, nearly snapped my motherboard in half putting the heatsink back on. Dropped my temp by 5cel under load, giving me some nice temps for overclocking. Went from 1.8GHz to 2.2GHz. That should get me a few more points. My temps are still mid-high 40's under load, I think I have room to overclock a bit more, but I wanna keep things cool

I might need to just run my humidifier, that might help.

Last winter I had 3 boxes in my bedroom, and only had to turn the heat on for about 3 days in 3 months. On Christmas day I still had a window fan running to keep the temp down. This year I hope to get all of them in one room. Luckily, I already run a humidifier during the winter. I like to keep it around 30% in the summer, and 50% in the winter (sinus issues).

I save on heating, but had to upgrade from a 6K BTU air conditioner to a 12K this past summer. A/C season tends to be from March to October.

My points are down because I had problems with the box I was rebuilding last night. I didn't get it folding again until this afternoon. I went from a Q9550@3.1 + 3x GTX460 to an i7-950@3.6 + 2x GTX460. All the 460s will end up in the 980X box when I get it built next week, and this one will run 450s. The 460s tend to take up half of a cpu core each when you have more than 1 or 2 cards in a single system, so the 9550 didn't run a cpu/smp client, but the 980X, with 12 cores, will still be able to run -bigadv with -smp 10.

The box I rebuilt got 30-45K just from the 3 GPU clients. It is now getting 35K. The 950 can run -bigadv, but it pulled a regular SMP this time. With a bigadv, at the current speed, it should hit 60K+ total. A better heatsink would help. Right now I'm using the stock Intel cooler that came with the 980X, and I'm stopped at 3.6 with the temps at 80C. A good cooler will let me bump it near 4.0 (the 930 is at 3.9). :flamethrower:

Fold on, my hardware freak brothers and sisters! :brokencomputer:

I use arctic cleaning and purifier on my gpu′s and cpu′s and then arctic,then it is 2-3 weeks "burn-in" and then oc′d
Humidifier sounds like a good idea.


Some time in the future I may get my behind in gear and draw cablings out to my bedroom and storage area,nothing that is high in my priorities,and if so I do it properly.

I′m going down as well,looked at hfm.net now and it was a sad view,my smp
gets 6702 and 6701,even if the 1090T gets 8466.58 tpf 9.32 dedicated,-smp 6.
Q8400 @ 2.9 have a 6021 but it is a less effective cpu at 2k and -smp 3.
Run a classic there too,also dedicated.
My gpu2-clients only gets 494-pointers now,no fun.

And finally gpu3 gets 6800-wu′s,downclocked to 1760-1790 and added fans solved
eue′s but my second evga sc 450 gets downclocked when both running
6800,sometimes,tried everything but to no avail.The other 3 gets 7.5k-8.7k,I′m good
with that.

Even run a gt 220 with -oneunit from time to time,2k on 494-pointers,that
one is dedicated to physX otherwise,kind of hoping for single slots 4xx
sometime besides the 430,that is the only sort that fits in that pci-e slot.
Btw asus gt 430 doesn′t fit as it is 1.5,the cooling sticks out

Do get some gts 460 love here shortly which goes into my main,and replace 2
powerhungry gpu2-clients (gtx 260 216+gts 250) with evga sc 450
there,probably qiut smp on q8400 then and run only 2 classic clients with
each gpu3 with separate affinities.

And have to admit,I play oblivion again,in SLI so there is some swithing
back and forth,fermi and folding+SLI doesn′t match,iirc gpu2 did pull that
off,to bad.Oblivion does look good though

edit:
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7466/foldinggoingdownedited.jpg
Fold on :foodndrink:

For those of you who pay close attention to stats, there is a problem on the Stanford end. The server is accepting the points, but not posting them. You'll see a bunch of zeros every 3 hours, then, when it's fixed, a huge update.
http://folding.typepad.com/news/2010/11/stats-updates-down-today.html
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=166953#p166953


We moved up to #119. It looks like we'll drop back 2 spots this week, then have a clear shot at climbing for the rest of the years, and well into the spring. The top 100 is in sight.

MIlestones :trophy:
Espair 3,500 11-20-10
Oranos 20,000 11-20-10
Pjstaab 350,000 11-19-10
A_Flamer 200,000 11-18-10
Fyrste 8,000 11-18-10
jaxawier 5,000,000 11-17-10


WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER!!! :celebration:
Espair 11-15-10 :cookie:


Fold on! :goodjob:

Stats are coming back.
http://folding.typepad.com/news/2010/11/stats-update-back-on-line.html
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=166976#p166976

I have taken the elevator with my contributions this week,for those who eventually keep up with that kind of stuff
For starters I had to fix my windows,it was solved after a few hours.
After getting gts 450 cards I had to try them out in OB,nice but still not quite there,and had to find settings that worked in F@H,got help there so it is all good now,major downclock on memory.
Later on I got gtx 460,the same procedure as above,besides OB shines,and those 460′s even survives p6811 with over 7000 credits without burning up,major memory downclock there as well for F@H.
Thankfully at least 6811 still is on -adv ,but 6800 isn′t, and 6800 gives around what I estimated with to begin with,but had to try one or two 6811 on gtx 460,it works but better with p6800 so no -adv for me. And it is -10 celcius here btw,good to keep the heat up then

Sorry I'm late. With the Holiday,I have a 5-day weekend, so I tend to forget what day it is. I spent the last couple days getting the water cooling set up for the new box- 36 hours into the leak check with no drips, so I started wiring the rest of it in around the tubes. Then I had to take a nap. I finally remembered I had to post. :facepalm: :blush2:

@jaxawier- I get the same PPD on a 460 with the 6800 and 6811 (11.5K, 867/1735/1900). The 450s are another story- 7200 on 6811, 9300 on 6800, 11K on just about anything else. It's staying around 40F here, so I still have to keep the window fan running to cool the boxes. At least I could finally turn off the air conditioner. With the computers running and the window open the room stays between 65-70F. I did that all last winter, and only had to close the window a few times. Unfortunately, what I save on heating I later spend on cooling. :banghead:

We dropped to #121, but should not be passed again for the rest of the year, while moving up 4 spots.

Milestones :trophy:
MistaMo 350,000 11-26-10
Espair 10,000 11-25-10
Pjstaab 400,000 11-24-10
A_Flamer 250,000 11-23-10
Dragon32 900,000 11-23-10
Fyrste 10,000 11-23-10

No new members, but we're still maintaining 20+ active folders. :icecream:

Fold on! :goodjob: