1. 800 core 2000 memory factory at 700 and 1800
2. Yes
3. I think so, i'll check in a bit.
4. I haven't
5.No I stop it as it steals a few frames from me
6. No i'm using the 260 beta

I've got my hex at 3.3 prime occt and linx stable overnight so hopefully i'm not sending bad results. And i'm using the V6 beta 6.30 cpu client.

1- Shader is the one that makes the big difference. Mine are running at 825/1650/1900 (1900 is stock on this EVGA Superclocked card) using Precision. Core and shader are locked at 1:2 on these.
2- OK
3&4- There have been reports of getting non-Fermi WUs on Fermis, which won't run, so sometimes the flag is needed. I have the flag on one of mine for that reason. It kept trying to run core 11 WUs.
5- That would have been my suggestion.
6- There have been discussions about whether the results are valid when using beta drivers. Since Pande Group hasn't chimed in on the discussion, pro or con, I have no comment. I have used beta in the past, but I do try to stick with the released drivers.

I was quessing at your hex results using my Q6600@3.4 numbers. I get 4500-7000 PPD from it, depending on Project (I hate 670x!). All I can say is make sure you have the -smp flag and use a passkey to get the bonus points.

This is my log file i'm getting from the gpu client. It is recognizing my gpu correctly. Could it be that I remote desktop in from my laptop causing windows to think it's using a different display driver and freaking it out?


[16:40:06] Gpu type=3 species=30.
[16:40:06] Loaded queue successfully.
[16:40:06] Initialization complete
[16:40:06]
[16:40:06] + Processing work unit
[16:40:06] Core required: FahCore_15.exe
[16:40:06] Core found.

Using Remote Desktop will crash the GPU client. The boys at the Folding Forum suggest using some flavor of VPN to remotely access a client.

Oh. I guess I can live without it. I was just using it to work on my oblivion install from my bed and downtime between classes.

Just an additional note on this problem- changing between user accounts will cause the same video driver reset and crash the GPU client.

We're still at #123, and now it looks like we'll be moving backwards a bit. Our monthly total is still trending up, but a few teams are screaming up behind us. Cold weather is coming, so we can hope to get a couple of our big contributors back, soon. :wavey:

Milestones :trophy:
A_Flamer 7,000 10-10-10
Pjstaab 150,000 10-08-10
Liono6959 500 10-05-10


New members
Nuck 10-06-10 :cookie:
Stirken7 10-03-10 :cookie:
I think someone had a typo on a new client. :shakehead:

Fold on! :goodjob:

edit- Does anyone know where Striken7 hangs out? I was going to PM on the typo, but I can't find him on any of my forums. We have had some folders who didn't use their user name, but it makes them hard to find.

I am brand new to the forum and have been folding for this team for about a month(A_Flamer). The reason I signed up on the forum was to inspire Team Elder Scrolls to start folding again. I am Bycote's little brother and he talked me into setting F@H up on my new pc I just built. When I set it up and joined the team I looked at a lot of our folders and SO many of them have 0 clients running in the past 50 days.

I have come to support this team and help, as Bycote would say, "Inspire the hearts of Elder Scrolls to fight with their mightiest passion for the good of people!" Also, I have joined because I just installed morrowind on my pc for the first time and am planning on learning a lot about the mods haha. haven't played this game since the original xbox!

So come one Elder Scrolls! Newcomers are very welcome and retired folders are encouraged to come out of retirement and get this team folding to the top!

Although you've been mentioned a few times already, welcome to the team and the forum. I originally came for Morrowind, but ended up spending all my time right here, in this thread.

I'm already folding as fast as I can, but I agree we could make a nice surge if our inactive members could throw a few WUs our way from time to time. I still want to break into the top 100.

Oh Uncle Fuzzy, Bycote has nothing but great things to say about you. It is an honor to follow your lead in this adventure.

Now for some real questions. I am running the smp client on my i3 530 @3.8Ghz. According to HFN.NET I am hitting 5000 PPD (after a lot of tweaking). I also have an ATI Radeon HD 5750 and I am NOT running the GPU client. Do you think it would be worth it to install the GPU client on my system? Or would it slow my cpu down too much and not make up for it in points?

Are fermi WUs and the smp2 WUs really worth way more than other units? I was looking at my score compared to others and I have way less WUs done but just as many points. I have 397 WUs done with 218,226 points and someone else has 1392 WUs and 216,350 points.

An i3, with HT on, is a virtual quad. Your PPD falls between that of my stock Q6600s@2.4 (4-4.5K) and the OCd one @ 3.4 (6-7K). I don't know what a high-end ATi will do, these days, but all you can do is try it.

The ATi GPUs require much more cpu time than the nVidias do, so your card will have a greater impact on smp frame times than any of my nVidia cards do. Setting the Enviromental Variables will let you fine tune the GPU operation to minimize the effect on the CPU. They have a nice http://en.fah-addict.net/articles/articles-1-3+gpu-environment-variables.php on that over at FAH-Addict.

I'd say install the GPU3 console client and run it with the -oneunit flag. They keep talking about GPU3 only being for nVidia, but it was actually written for both brands. The new enhancements currently only benefit the nVidia cards. The good part for ATi users is the updated hardware detection that should let you avoid using any flags to force gpu recognition.

Allow the SMP to continue running as currently configured, and start the GPU3 client. You should know within a half hour, or so, what the new PPD will be for both clients. A little math will tell you if you gain anything. Stop the SMP and change the -smp flag to -smp 3. Restart the SMP and wait another half hour to see what those times say. If one of those tests give you a good PPD bump, you can stop the GPU and remove the -oneunit flag to let it continue running. If you don't see a good bump, just let the GPU run out and stick with the SMP only.


I have 72.909 WUs...I win!

The biggest points currently come from -bigadv SMP on an 8-core+ machines (up to 200K PPD), but the WUs are getting scarce. Second would be those same 8-core+ systems running regular SMP. My i7-930@3.8 does 30-40K on -bigadv and 11-20K on regular SMP. Number 3 is the nVidia Fermi, getting 10K+. Numbers 4,5,6.... are the rest of the nVidia cards, down to an 8800GT getting 4K to a GTX260 doing 8K. I think the newer ATi cards fall towards the bottom of this list- 3-5K.

Usually, those with higher WU counts do, or did, run the CPU client for a long time. An "average" machine will finish 1 WU every 1-14 days for 50-2000 points, compared to 1 WU every 1-3 hours for nVidia GPUs for 300-1000 points. I ran nothing but multiple CPU clients for most of my first year, which ran my WU count up. Now I do most of my work on 11 GPUs, which still means a lot of WUs, but also more points that my old single and dual core AMD cpus could ever dream of making.

alright I'll do that. This morning I woke up to find the client wouldnt connect to the server, and I couldnt even go to the website. I came to discover I couldnt go to any .edu website. I tried flushing the DNS, power cycling my router, resetting my router to defaults. None of that worked. Then I found an option in my router settings to enable internal DNS server, did that and it fixed it right up. So I lost a whole night of folding because my router decided to screw up. I need to get a good one instead of using this old dlink.

A high end Radeon 5870 only produces around 4-5k PPD. SMP packets are worth quite a lot, and then you can get bonus points after completing 10, so it's even more exaggerated. Fermi, I think, is more powerful than my 5870, and Folding@Home always favoured nVidia's hardware more than ATI/AMD GPU's especially when GPU3 still does not fully run on the Radeon's. There were supposed to be improvements for Radeon's but we are still running the old 11 core even if the client was technically updated not too long ago. I guess they are trying to get OpenCL fully working or something. Radeon's run BOINC projects a lot better than Folding@Home, I hear. Anyways, my graphics card is still improving my scores by a few K's, so I'll keep the GPU running and hope that they finally optimize the cores..

My F@H for my CPU has been acting funny so I'll need to reinstall it again.

I setup the GPU3 client like you said. the systray version. and i see it shows progress, right now 400/10000. but if I add the client to HFM.NET it just shows 0% and never moves. Does that software monitor the gpu clients or do I need to get differant stuff to do that?

EDIT: i got that figured out but the GPU3 client slowed my smp client way down and it wasnt worth it in points. Im smp only for now

Have you tried setting the Enviromental Variables? Did you try both -smp and -smp 3? You should actually make the same, or even more points, but you also need to factor in using more energy and generating more heat. If you make 5000 on SMP, and could make up to 5000 on GPU, you'd have to more than double your frame time/halve you SMP PPD, to lose on the experiment.

Running with the -smp flag creates 4 threads within the client (-smp with no number sets it to the number of cpu cores it sees- dual with HT = 4). The threads depend on each other on every step of the WU. If the GPU hogs one core, the SMP thread on that core slows, and the other 3 have to wait for it. Getting the right numbers for the EV will lower the cpu usage of the GPU client, and the time the other 3 SMP threads have to wait.

The other option is to go into the advanced settings in both SMP and GPU client configuration and unlocking the clients from the cores, then changing the -smp flag to -smp 3. This way, the SMP client will only create 3 threads, leaving one core completely free for the GPU. This should drop your SMP PPD by about 25%, while getting full output from the GPU.

For any others wondering about monitoring the Systray client, when you install it, it creates 2 folders, one of them hidden (I don't remember where). You need to point HFM or Fahmon to the hidden folder.

Well, we're still at #123, but it looks like we'll slip back a couple spots over the next 2 months. Now would be a good time for some of our inactive members to crank up a client, or two, for the honor of TES (that's TEAM Elder Scrolls ). We've climbed about 800 places since I joined in '07, but we seem to have reached near equilibrium the past few months.

Milestones :trophy:
A_Flamer 35,000 10-17-10
Pjstaab 200,000 10-11-10
glymfeather 100,000 10-11-10
Oranos 15,000 10-10-10
Nuck 100 10-10-10

No new members.

Fold on! :goodjob:

My friend just upgraded his graphics card and gave me his 5770 so im going to crossfire my new 5770 with my 5750 and when I get that setup ill test this gpu client again

well, I was wrong in the tech thread here, gts 450 has a tdp at 106w, not 105,my bad.
got it installed today and it works fine, in high 8k with 611-units,and with 9xx-units it was 12-13k,aint done with the settings yet though.
suspected the smp would be influenced in a negative direction with gpu3 and fermi,and was right,loose 1-2k compared to running gpu2.
looks like I need an alternative to priffinity for more than 4 cores,it is a thuban (6x),and for some reason it doesn′t "take" affinity changes on 6x,dunno why,works perfectly on quads.
and nice to be here again

edit:
done with stable settings,885-1770-1800 gives 8947,53 with 611-wu′s,I′m good with that

We slipped to #124, but made it back to 123 in time for the weekly report. The future is looking brighter, thanks, in part, to jaxawier turning his heater on for the winter. The current trend has us breaking 120 in about a month. Now, if it just gets colder in Canada.....

Milestones :trophy:
A_Flamer 60,000 10-23-10
Striken7 17,500 10-21-10
Pjstaab 250,000 10-20-10
Dragon32 800,000 10-19-10
Nuck 250 10-19-10
MistaMo 300,000 10-18-10

Still no new members.

Fold on! :goodjob:

We're still at #123, but due to move up 2 spots before the next update. At the current rate, we'll break 120 before Christmas. I've started ordering hardware for another build, so that should help. I've decided 5 boxes is enough, so the new one will mean decomissioning the oldest/slowest in the farm.

We have a new GPU client, GPU3 version 6.40r1 (console) and 6.40r2 (systray). These are minor adjustments while waiting for the new v7. I have most of mine changed over, but a couple old boxes are still running GPU2.
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=16471

Milestones :trophy:
A_Flamer 100,000 10-30-10
Tesenthusiast 1,000 10-26-10
jaxawier 3,500,000 10-24-10

No new members.

Fold on! :goodjob:

Sorry guys I joined a different forums team (guru3d). I knew about folding at home for a while but before it was so new and i think the client was too confusing. Im up and running now, even though I just have a c2d every bit helps right

F@H is pretty cool, good stress tester for overclocking too

In more ways than just running the client. We have StressCPU2, based on the Gromacs code, and MemtestG80 created by Imran Haque from the Pande Group to test the memory on nVidia GPUs. All the tools are http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=52.

We moved up 2 spots to #121 this week. I still want to break 100 by the end of the year, and the next 2 months look pretty good.

I'm replacing my slowest box, doing a major upgrade on the second slowest, and moving to all 4xx-series GPUs. That will give me a nice bump, and should help us make the top 100 on schedule.

The GTS450 looks like the new sweet spot for GPUs- $140US, 106W, single 6-pin power, overclocks like a bandit, ~14K PPD.

Hey, wolfpup, how's the weather in BC? Getting cold, yet?

Milestones :trophy:
A_Flamer 150,000 11-05-10
jaxawier 4,000,000 11-02-10
Floating_Jet 150,000 11-02-10
Oranos 17,500 10-31-10

:bowdown: Congrats to jaxawier for hitting 4 million and moving into second place. Anybody seen Oak37, lately?

Still no new members , but we're doing a fine job with just 20 folders. :hehe:

Fold on! :goodjob:

Whilst we're aways off a new thread at the moment something that might be worth mentioning in the first post of it is http://jedi95.zymichost.com/. It's a really good way to get off the ground and start folding easily, for Windows people. When you first run it the program will download all the clients (CPU/SMP and the 2 GPU clients) and you can then set them up as you need. I gave it a whirl a few days back and really like it, it's also another tracker like FahMon. The one thing it's missing is the ability to run multiple CPU clients on different cores. It also pre-fills the team ID for you.

Overall it's a really nice single set-up and monitor program which is pretty much all someone needs to download to get started with this. The http://jedi95.zymichost.com/setup.html too, explaining all you need to know about it.

So, not of that much interest to those who're in the squillions of points but for people just starting out or thinking of joining our team it'd be a godsend.

Don't hate me please!

I won't be folding for Team Elder Scrolls from the 8th to the 15th. My buddy on another forum begged and begged me to join his team for a short competition, even going as far as sending me 5 dollars on paypal to get me to join him haha. At that point I realized how badly he wanted me for his inner forum folding war, so I gave him his 5 bucks back and signed up. I feel like such a traitor since my own blood started this team but I'm still folding for the cause which is what its really about right. I just felt like explaining why I would be giving the team next to nothing for the next week. Thanks