This concerns a distributed computing project (along the lines of SETI) from Stanford University in the US that deals with research in proteins, and hopes to result in ways of finding solutions to diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and others. I've had this installed on my system for a couple of months now. It runs completely unattended, has a small footprint and hasn't disturbed my gaming at all.

In addition, owners of Sony PS3's can participate in this program. Stanford's FAQ page for PS3 users is located http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-PS3.html. It seems like a pretty simple set up.

There's an Elder Scrolls team that was formed at PES, and since the original thread, here we have moved up several hundred positions in the team ranking...currently at 187 152. But things are slowing down a bit and we'd like to get some more folks signed up.

So if you're interested take a look here and help us out.

The thread on PES by Bycote that started all the action on this forum is http://forumplanet.gamespy.com/site_feedback/b49639/7665394/p1. This has a lot of good info on starting up your system to contribute.



Last thread is http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1049136-foldinghome-v110/.


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Setup procedures of the various clients for PS3, Windows, Mac and Linux can be found here:

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Guide
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Any problems with installing or running F@H, just post here and we'll all be glad to help

If you would like to contact someone with a question about:

Windows XP:
nVidia GPU2 console client
SMP console (MPICH version)
CPU clients
then PM http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showuser=340938.

Linux anyone?
Speak to http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showuser=71490.
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Some handy links are here:

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html
http://www.hardfolding.com/fh_stats/index.php?pz=101&tnum=52286
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=52286
http://foldingforum.org/
http://www.themcdonalds.net/~themcdo/richard/index.php?title=FAHManager
http://www.themcdonalds.net/~themcdo/richard/index.php?title=NFoldMan
http://www.fahmon.net/

So, in the end, I've decided to leave my desktop folding 24/7, at least until I get my electric bill

Anyways, at present I'm averaging 481 PPD which, given the numbers I've seen some people put up, seems unusually low. It's not a brand new machine (Quad core Q9300), but I hadn't expected such a large discrepancy. Anything I can do to tweak this or is it simply restricted to raw processing power? I'm typically getting a3 cores, if that's relevant. Also, I haven't yet completed 10 WUs with a passkey (I skipped over it in the initial config and only discovered what they were later), but is the lack of bonus points enough to explain the entire discrepancy?

It's not a huge deal, of course, but if anyone has tips/pointers then I'd be much obliged.

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I fold on an E5300 dual core with smp and current project are at 1700 ppd,on A3 but again,I get the bonus,huge difference,without it A3 doesn′t stand out so much from A1 or A2,for the future it seems it goes towards A3 though,and less A1/A2 after lurking around the other forum.
So once getting the bonuses things have to look better ppd-wise I belive.Other factors I dunno,usually run Amd my self= very limited experience with intel.

About electrical bill,in the winter/cold weather computers heat the apartment instead of ordinary heating,getting warmer around here now so it getting worse that way,a bit worried about it I admitt.

Here's an idea of what you should see with the bonus after you get your 10 completed.
Q6600@2.4- 4000 PPD +
Q6600@3.4- 6000 PPD +
Q9550@2.83- 5000 PPD +

The base value on the A3s is only 450, so you are completing it in less than a day. With A1 I was seeing around 2000 PPD. A2 in a VM (notfred's) gave me 4000 PPD +.

I have 3 boxes running in my bedroom and never turned the heat on this past winter. I had the window open with a fan most of the time. My winter bills are low, but my summer bills are high due to air conditioning. I've been running it on and off since late March, and I still have the window fan going. :flamethrower:

My E8200 is hardly getting any work done, and I don't know why.. It's not up 24/7, but I thought it would get something done even if someone was surfing the web on it at the same time. I set it to not run advmethods so that the work would be lighter, but the frame time seems to vary wildly from 10 minutes to an hour or two. Heh, maybe it's going into some standby mode I wasn't aware of. This anomaly does not show up in the log other than by very long gaps in time between frames. It does not seem to be running A3 right now, but some GROMACS 1.9 with only 59 credits. These 50 to 120 credit packets take it over a day to finish, so the E8200's PPD is meaningless when compared to this other system that is producing 17 000 on average alone..

uhm they seem to had some issues with their smp-work server last night or so,when I woke up one client had got protomol-work of all things,strange :blink:
After lurking over to their forum they have had issues with their "giving out wrong work to wrong clients" or something,dunno about that but it had to be fixed now,all looks normal now.

E8200 is a duo similar to mine in speed,had to look,run mine at 2.9 and with smp obviously,24/7 on it though,at least until my wireless mouse and usb extension arriwes,need that for the controller.
Anyway I may try to get a1 on it if it get used as a media-pc because their more generous timelines,if those are available that is,or running ordinary cpu work :shrug:

I thought the E8200 was quite powerful.. I mean, even my laptop with a Core 2 Duo P7370 is producing a lot more and can run the SMP client well enough to qualify for bonus points. This E8200 does not seem to have a chance to do the same, so no bonus points and very low points per week.

The overclocked Core i7 system with 5870 is raising the temperature in the room quite a lot now during the summer, so I may need to clock it down a little bit or shut it down over night to be able to sleep here.

*Update*

Well, my friend got home and I approached her about some things and it seems things are fine as far as we are concerned. I think there was a bit of misunderstanding along the way between me and him. She also agreed with me about how annoying having every light in the house on when nobody needs them is ridiculous. *looks at dad and kids* (Only her and I have any form of income.)

I'm restarting my clients right now. (Sans PS3, seeing he seems to think it will kill it.)

*Original post*

Unfortunately my PPD is going to take a huge nose dive. My roommates have been complaining about money. The hydro bill went up when I started this mini folding farm. I'm down to the e6850/8800GTX only.

Rant starting, so be warned:

I'm kind of bothered really. At least F@H is doing something, unlike when they leave every light/TV/PC/game console on........when nobody is home or using them!!!! I'm always walking around turning them off, just to find them back on and the room empty 10 minutes later. I mean, it's day, the sun lights up every room in the house just fine. It's beyond me why there needs to be 3 light fixtures burning electricity in the living room when we have a huge free source streaming through the window. I mean, I've walked through the downstairs when they left one morning for school and literally every light/TV/PV/etc on the main floor was on. :blink:

I raised my own rent years back when I added a couple services to my friends account. (She gave me full access. I paid more than what the service charged to.) I canceled the service a couple months later. I then managed to switch us over to one provider (Phone/TV/Internet) saving us more money, but did not reduce my rent to reflect. They are my friends after all and I think I have a pretty sweet deal even with the increase. I live in an unfinished (I see the insulation through the vapour barrier, and the roof were the insulation has slipped down) attic with no heat (Short of the sun heating the shingles thus my room. Does squat in the winter.) but it's cheap rent.

I will stop folding for the summer, but I am using it as my "space heater" as soon as winter come backs.

I know things are not good between my friends. It is basically a relationship of convenience now, not love anymore. (Kids, 50/50 owners in a house/etc) He's absolutely miserable, but wont leave. She's fed up with his piss poor attitude and wants him to get a job, or do the work on the house he should have done 5 years ago. I've offer to help, free of charge, but nothing ever gets done. I have a couple "opening" skylights up here. (The do open, if he'd finish installing the damn things. :stare: ) He makes things more difficult than they need be. Drives me nuts. It's not rocket science.

Bah, sorry, this really isn't the thread for this but man I needed to vent.

So yeah, my PPD will be closer to 5000-7000 from now on. (Until winter. Unless he puts a duct up from the furnace.............. :rofl: Yeah, that'll happen. :rolleyes: )

oh my.
Living entirely alone I have no other than me to consider,lucky me.

About summer and temperatures,we got it hot over in norway as well,so I have shut down 2 cpu-clients (with oneunit to finish up the work they had),the last powerbill was steep,and the e5300 gives moderate contributions anyway,I go over entirely to gpu-work but I will get similar figures as I had regardless on a good day.

Two considerations for me,get the powerbill reduced a little,and the main thing the temperature down,so I try to shut down the smp-work since they generate heat,and doesn′t give as much contributions as the gpu′s,at least my crappy cpu′s as they stand.

Far more interesting note about electricity and lights,tv′s on all the time while f@h actually does something,totally agree,everyone on our team list have put their wallet,human resources and effort to contribute as they can where others may have put more effort in their mouths

Our teamleader are a grand example,likewise those two posters above,getting hardware,learning the trade,clients configurations and pay the electricity bill,and it feels kind of good to be a part of it :foodndrink:

Lights don't count as much in my opinion, unless they are still of the old incandescent type. But still, I agree, why keep them lit in the middle of the day. Heating and cooling is most likely where most of the energy is consumed. The TV(s) can mark a great deal in the electricity bill. A big screen LCD TV can consume just as much as a PC or more. Definitely turn it off when no one is watching and then, you don't really need to watch it as much anyways.

My PS3 has been running just fine for 2 or 3 years and running Folding@Home almost 24/7. It's been in operation pretty unattended too, barring some firmware updates. There's only one occasion when it went offline, and I hadn't checked it for a week. That was probably because it just lost connection to the router and the internet.

Meh, and I make software for energy companies. I should probably go - "Please consume more (so our clients can pay the company more and I get paid more in salary)"....

So I timed the power meter for 1 full revolution with 1 rig off, and the other not folding. It took 33 seconds. With both folding, it took 17 seconds. oo:

We are at #129 with no movement forecast for the next 2 weeks. :snoring:

Milestones
Fyrste 5,000 05-16-10
jaxawier 3,000,000 05-14-10
yasgur 1,250,000 05-13-10
Alleystria 6,000 05-12-10
Tesenthusiast 750 05-11-10

No new members, so the cookies are mine!

Fold on! :goodjob:

You should get one of those power meters you can plug directly into the wall, super handy! I've always been concerned with power usage. I measured one of my machines (e6420) with both cores loaded and it was about 80 watts. I haven't measured my Q6600 as I'll be reconfiguring that sometime soon. An idea I had a while ago was running the machines off flash drives in order to save power; I might give that a go and see how it works out.

For folding those atoms D510 could be one thing to consider, they certainly draw low watts,haven′t seen any confirmed numbers for D510 yet though,they should be a little better than the old atoms,anyway since I live in the expensive part of the world I estimated 500 us dollars for a whole system on mini-ITX.

for measuring instrument don′t know how it is elsewhere but we have a electronical shop where they sell those kind of things dirt cheap and rising depending on the qualiity of course.

Here's the current Atom discussion thread from the folding forum.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=13782

Well, sadly I am no longer folding at all.

My other roommate, the one that works brought up the higher bills again. I feel things balance out in the end as alluded to in my earlier rant, but I have it good here so don't want to rock the boat. It's just simpler to stop all together for now, and when winter comes, I at least have the excuse I have no heat up here so they are my space heaters. (I'd need a 5000+W heater to heat the whole attic, think of what that would cost.)

I just added HD to the cable bill, so I'll relent here, and hope she absorbs the small increase in the cable bill. (I bought the HD receiver so no rental, but the "HD pPus" is costing us a bit more.) I've managed to save us at least that "wheeling and dealing" so I think she'll be fine with that. Plus they get my old digital box for their bedroom giving them full access to all the digital channels. It would cost them 10 bucks a month to rent one soooo.

Wish I could keep contributing, and will as soon as I possibly can.

You will be missed,hopefully you come back in the winter when the heat is needed

oh and while I′m at it, I will take it easy with the folding as well, basically quit/take a long break,ironically my additional cards arrived yesterday so it was hope to break both 40 k and eventually 50 k-barriers with them,ah well that was it

I hope you guys don't forget where we hang out. Stop by often, even if you have to go idle. You can still give technical support. :hehe:

Short milestone list this week
Fyrste 6,000 05-19-10
WTFimLEET 125,000 05-17-10
Chaul 1,750,000 05-16-10


No new members. :nope:

A couple bits of news for folks running the SMP2 client.

http://en.fah-addict.net/news/news-0-224+smp2-migration-begins.php
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14541
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=13038

If you happen to have 8+ cores- i7 or dual cpu servers- there are the -bigadv WUs (super-smp).

http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=55

Fold on! :goodjob:

Now recently started folding SMP, instead of GPU+Systray. Got my passkey and finished eight so far; the ninth coming in about 2 hours. Getting only A3's up to this point in time and completing them one per 1.333 days, if I leave the machine to it. Since it is my only rig, and I'm in my holidays now, I tend to work it often too... It's a Intel Dual Core T6600 @2.2 Ghz, and haven't had any problems so far. The old ppd was about 800-1100, and I'm hoping this will kick it up a bit. That's why I've also dissapeared off the milestone list... for now...

My T6400@2.0 gets just over 1000 with the SMP2 and A3s, compared to 800-900 with the A1s. You should see about 1000-12000 from the SMP, and, if you have an nVidia gpu, there is no reason not to run the GPU client along with it. I've got 5 quad desktops with 10 GPUs running 24/7, so I don't use the laptop that often. It will top 2K PPD with SMP+GPU (GT120M).

edited to reflect a reasonable number of gpu clients (from 120 to 10), damned fat fingers :facepalm:

My GPU is an ATi Radeon HD 4650, and when running both simultaneously, the GPU takes all of the CPU ('bout 70 percent). In general this hits about 800 ppd.

SMP2 and ATi GPU don't mix well on a dual core. Getting the right setting for the Environmental Variables will help, but even with a quad they recommend running -smp 3 to leave a full core for the ATi GPU client.

My weak GT120M gets about 1200 PPD.

I'll see how this works out with just the SMP, and otherwise I'll switch back to the GPU + Systray. I do like the SMP better, though, as it will probably show more bang for a buck than the GPU/Systray, with which I would have to wait about a day for the tray to produce about 350 ppd.

It looks like I'll be joining in the lower production for a while. I've got some heat issues and will have to shut down a couple machines until I can solve it. I'll be dropping about 50% for at least a few days.

Sorry guys.

The temperatures have dropped here, so at least I'll be producing more for the next few weeks until the next heat wave..