For Honor

Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:16 am

Anyone else playing this? Just put in about 6 hours on the PS4 beta and it's one of the funnest lobby based games I've played in awhile.


It's basically a 3rd person medieval warfare fighting game that has its setting ripped from our world via some obscure cataclysm that has pitted Vikings, Samurai and Knights in a perpetual war over resources lasting hundreds of years. I have no idea if there is an actual campaign, but that is the justification for the setting. I don't think they were trying too hard to be serious with it lol. They just wanted an excuse for Knights, Vikings and Samurai to fight one another.


The combat changes depending on the game type. Fundamentally it is a third person action/fighting game set on something akin to FPS maps. However it can be straight up duels, elimination or domination. The first two types have no mobs and are entirely player vs player. Domination has waves of mobs from both sides vying for control of the map while the heroes (players) try to sway the tide of battle and capture control points. There is a good deal of item customization and loot. The closest comparison I can think of would be the recent Call of Duty games and how you unlock pieces of armor, weapon parts and so on and so forth.


The game is fairly fluid and feels nice. Combat is weighty and there seems to be a decent skill ceiling. I'm usually pretty good at PvP games from the get go and I'm getting stomped by many people lol. Then again, there are plenty of bad players too so new players will not be out of place at all.


I'd link some YouTube vids but I'm on mobile. Check some gameplay videos off of YouTube though. Pretty neat game.
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Reanan-Marie Olsen
 
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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:11 am

It is pretty fun, and rewards planning, and skill. Planning on buying it myself. Looking like they tweaked things a bit since the closed beta. Haven't gotten much accomplished in the open beta as it opened on a work weekend.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:25 pm

I have a total of 13 hours already played in the open beta and I love this game. The 1 on 1 duels are exactly what I wanted. The different characters all play different and you have to adapt to each as you fight them or as you try and switch it up and play as a different character. Decently easy to get a hang of (takes about an hour or two to get the basic mechanics down) but the game allows for lots of player advancement in terms of skill, and there are some very complex mechanics and techniques you can learn down the line.


Overall, the game is extremely satisfying and addictive. I'm definitely going to pick it up.


Though I really dislike the 4 v 4 modes and the power up bs that goes along with it. Seems out of place.


I main a war lord. The play style fits me completely. Plus, the head butt move is very fun and easy to use (and abuse).


What is everyone's main?
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Kat Ives
 
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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:20 am

So what's the story? Why are these factions fighting each other?
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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:28 am

The Story seems to be locked behind actually purchasing the game. The Beta test seems to be testing the PvP aspect, and balance of the characters. Some of the characters seem a bit different than what was in the closed beta, maybe a number crunch, or just more players so getting a wider array of player ability.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:47 pm

There is no real story to it lol. It is just a baseline justification for why these three groups are together and fighting. I already said all the justification they really gave for the game in the OP.


Anyways, I've been maining a Warden. I spent the 2000 gold they give you on gear before I realized it was used to try other classes lol. So I've pretty much just been using the Warden. I've been having some difficulty chasing down other classes after whooping their butts in domination and if an opponent gets me inside their reach it's problematic. My guard can't seem to react to the quick blows of some classes fast enough, but that might just be my ping and lag. In 1v1 duels I have a 3.5 kdr ATM, but I feel like I only went up against one guy who was decent and I lost to him 2-3 T-T. I wanna try some of the dual wield classes as some of the best opponents I've gone up against have been using them.


Edit: wait there is a single player campaign?
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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:20 pm

It's all going to be revealed in the single player campaign I believe. So very little of the story has been revealed at all.


Edit: @Albino Dunmer Yes. Which just makes this game 10x more appealing.
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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:58 am

Yes, there is a single player campaign. Something about an evil lady trying to rule and/or destroy the world.


I have a feeling that the campaign will be short and not the main focus of the game... I'll probably pass, because I get tired of online play pretty quick.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:17 pm

Kind of, yeah, seems like it will be more of a tutorial rather than some big meaty campaign, but who knows? Oh, and it will http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-12-13-steam-uplay-currently-wrong-for-honor-campaign-requires-internet.
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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:14 pm

Yeah, I have a feeling the single player is just going to be a tutorial for the multiplayer experience. Nothing too elaborate. Shove it in there to make the $60 price tag.



That said, I played the alpha for it months ago and enjoyed it. But similar to Pluto, I think I'll be passing on it. I can see myself getting tired of going from match to match to match. Shame because its the first Ubisoft game to interest me in a long while. That Lawbringer looks like my kind of guy though, were I to play.

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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:18 am


Same. I wish I knew other gamers these days though... because it'd be something I'd play with friends at least (like fighting games).



And no, online people don't count. I hate all of you. :P

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:15 pm


Likewise. The game kind of looks like it will be too competitive for me since I have a temperament of a Wookie when it comes to those games and I hate losing even a single death makes me want to throw the PC out of my window. I did that to a C64 back when I was 11. The C64 was still working after. Most of the time I just threw out joysticks whenever I lost a competitive match.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:09 pm

I've put in a few hours, though I wish I had done more (too distracted with Dying Light at the moment), and I was very indifferent towards the game at first.



After putting more time in (playing only as the Warden, I'm Warden 11 now), the game actually seems to be trying to capitalise on the popularity of things like the Dark Souls dueling scene, but with more and better defined rules, and a proper movelist. Initially, the combat feels cumbersome and disjointed, and quite slow paced, but this is to play to the layer of strategy the underlies the combat itself. Every swing should be deliberate as misses punish stamina, and stamina often wins battles. I also like the ability to see your opponent's stamina gauge, as such a system in Dark Souls would also help immeasurably.



I feel like the game has depth and potential, along with a good variety of characters. However, I am somewhat concerned about certain aspects pertaining to the longevity of the game, aside from the grinding of character levels. Firstly, the maps in the Beta get repetitive pretty fast, which can really drag when you're playing on that Bridge every other match.



Secondly, whilst the game has a wealth of potential as a franchise, adding in more factions in sequels and the like, I feel that balancing and the repetition of the grind will wear down most gamers to the point of indifference. Balancing is the worst of my modern gaming issues, and I guarantee it'll result in whiny parts of "the community" causing unnecessary changes to characters.



Lastly, once again, I get the feeling Ubisoft is targeting the Esports scene with this game, or at least hoping it turns into an Esports game. From the way Siege went, I can safely say that Ubisoft's obsession with the Esports aspect of the game has hurt my experience and resulted in a game that appeals to a different audience than previous R6 titles. That said, at least they're finally adding in loot in May, which will make the terrible "pay for aesthetics" system a bit more tolerable.



So, For Hono(u)r is a mixed bag. It is laden with potential and could become a main Ubisoft franchise (and looks to be one either way), but it could fall foul of player fatigue and bad post-launch design decisions.



As much fun as I've had with the Beta, I've learned to wait on most games, especially Ubisoft ones, to see if they'll butcher it at some point. They'll no doubt have a "Complete Season One Edition" next year too.

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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:27 am

I watched a bit of people playing on Twitch this weekend. Though I am not an online PvP player, this does look like fun... with friends. I'm not sure what the single player "story(?) mode" will be like, but this would be why I would get it.



I'm kind of confused, though. Wasn't U-Play/Ubisoft in "the consumer doghouse?" Have they improved or rectified their troubles?



PS: And the worst part for PC: I get to go through Steam AND U-Play to play. oh, joy...

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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:56 am

I've been waiting for this for so long and now that it's about to release I'm fairly indifferent.



Doesn't help that they aren't being very forthcoming about what you get in the £40.00, £60.00 and £80.00 version of the game.



What they don't tell you clearly at all is apparently all the content is free and the Deluxe Edition will give some of the content early and the Gold Edition with it's "Season Pass" will give you all of the content early.



Of course it makes sense not to be upfront about it... who's gonna spend money on the expensive versions if they realised they're just getting the stuff a bit early.



COD with swords isn't a bad concept so I'll download the Beta and see if it's worth picking up the Standard Copy.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:39 pm



Better download now, because i think the beta ends today.
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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:11 am


By the time you had posted this, the Beta was already over. It ended at 10pm (GMT) yesterday.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:00 pm

Yeah, still on the marketplace to download so I thought it was still up.



It's not like I lost out on too much time telling it to download.



I've liked the gameplay footage I've seen but with "Nioh" being one of the best games released this Gen I might even hold back until this goes on sale.



Is it a better game than "Fallout 4"? that was half price within a week or 2 of release so I may as well grab a copy then.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:28 pm


Apples and oranges.

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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:57 am

It's a different game than Fallout 4, so who really knows?



I heard some of the streamers on Twitch talk about forthcoming DLC for "For Honor." Some new maps every now and again, with new soldiers, too. Some even jokingly talked about "cash shops" :lol:



I'm not sure how the game will be monetized or how that will affect any sales or promotions. If you're looking at the PvP aspect primarily, it has the misfortune of "The longer you wait, the further behind you'll be."



Wait and see is usually the best practice, but may not work as well here :)

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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:06 am

As mentioned above it's a strange model.



Ubisoft are wanting to get away from "Season Passes" so all the content is supposed to be free.



Paying more simply gets you the same stuff everyone else is getting anywhere from a week to a month earlier, apart form some unique cosmetics.



Is this game a constant level grind where the higher level characters have the advantage?



If that's the case not much point picking this up for casual play is there?

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:44 pm


Each of the characters in the game levels independently and once they reach level 20, they'll reset to level 1, but gain 1 Reputation level. Each character has about 10(?) Reputation levels, I think.



After each match, you may have acquired one piece of loot. Each piece of loot is specific to the character you acquired it with and will alter certain stats (increasing certain things, whilst reducing others to balance things out). You can use your "Steel" + a Faction specific material to upgrade these pieces of "gear" and each level costs more resources to unlock. You can acquire your Faction specific material by dismantling unwanted gear. You can also acquire gear by spending your Steel (like Siege's Renown) on Gear packs, which comes in 4 different levels of increasing price and rarity.



When your Reputation increases, you will get better gear from the battlefield, so by pouring all of your time into 1 character, you'll get the best stuff for that character.



Everything has a trade-off though, such as increased attack traded for lower defence or worse stamina recovery.



What's more, Gear stats ONLY affect Domination afaik, which is only one of the 4 Game modes in the Multiplayer. All other modes have Gear effects turned off, unless you're in someone's custom match.



I hope that answers your question.

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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:03 pm

I guess "with friends" is the key. It'd be a great game "with friends", which is the only way I'll play a PvP game like this. Others simply enjoy the competition :)



@Ephidel, thanks for the insight! That's more info than I've seen yet :)

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Post » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:21 am



You gain better gear by leveling up. In some game modes it helps, in others it's just cosmetic.

I don't really understand what you mean by casual play though. I played the beta casually for fun. Will you occasionally run into someone that kicks your ass because they are far more skilled? Yeah maybe. Will you also find people who are simply beginning? Yeah.
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Post » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:18 pm


With games like "Battlefield" and "Call Of Duty" the jobless are rewarded for spending their life playing the game through perks and kit that give them an advantage over those who play casually and will eventually unlock these things but at a slower pace due to things like family, friends, other hobbies besides gaming, actually owning other games, gainful employment and other things like eating and sleeping.



There are many games that are released that can be considered "Greedy Mistresses".



"Destiny" was certainly one of these. She didn't like you spending time with other games AT ALL.



And if you did she punished you by leaving you behind all your mates in the quest for Levels and Loot.



So I'm simply trying to figure out if "For Honor" is a welcome addition to a gaming collection or if it is a needy game constantly requiring me to be plugged in and playing and finding that if I took a night off to play something else... I'm nothing but Cannon Fodder for the people who play nothing else.

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