Somewhat on topic, I'm kind of hoping to see them introduce vampire clans with subtle differences in abilities and theme. I rather liked that element. Though I still think they should have gone with a transformation ultimate, vampire lord-esque.

Who knows. Maybe with some expansion content much later down the road.

Yeah I know sunlight does not afflict the character but I was suggesting it could.. Far as lag and other type issues causing the loss of the affliction , that is the risk you take to become one for that character... I say loose the affliction for only that character, you could always role again and try again.. Plus going into battle should be very risky as such a character and cause you to be more cautious when playing the role...

Vampires and such did not just run around without concern or consequences in lore anyhow.. They always tried to remain hidden and secretive for many reasons, one was they would be hunted down and exterminated, so yes making it harder would fit naturally to the role.. I was just throwing out my opinion on one way of dealing with these type of roles, good or bad does not matter nor am I saying to put this in this game..

Far as it wouldn't work or be accepted by the player base due to online, I actually disagree if you build the system to the community fully knowing this upfront it actually works more then you would think.. I saw other games that never saw the light of day that were going to implement said systems and they had huge player followings and acceptance to the design. So there is a player base out there that would accept it if done properly.

The risks of being a vampire are already tenfold when in PvP in Cyrodiil the amount of damage you take from any fire based spells is enough to have you hiding in your coffin.

If they were to make it any harder for Vampires in PvP than it currently is I would also like to see death drops implemented, nothing gives the satisfaction of slaughtering an enemy, them dropping their +12 Judgement Mace and me taunting them over global offering it up for sale *sigh* the good old days. Or better yet them going red from PKing too much and a guard killing them in 1 hit, *pop* was like a boss had just been slaughtered, items and gold galore!!

this is what will happen to vamps in pvp :

but seriously bro, many already knew how to become a vampire, or at least the general area where to look for it and shared it with firends, guild etc

lets keep it a secret..lmao i admire your spirit.....I hear the NSA are looking for ppl like you

I personally dont care but my wife is a slower leveller than I am and wants to be a vampire. So I will take just first opportunity to turn myself an then turn her into one ! Else she will make me sleep on the couch

haha thats harsh ^^ well then I recommend rolling a vampire dark elf in case you are still undecided what race to choose - the passives are enough to hit the fire resistance soft cap in the endgame without wasting enchanting slots, wont mitigate all the damage but it helps

A lot of people are claiming Vampires will be burnt to a crisp in PvP, and while some of the times that might be true, people have to know they're fighting a Vampire and adjust their skill set; either that or just use the same set of skills on everyone. I'm almost tempted to travel with a friend who's not a Vampire, and who stacks resistances in everything I'm weak against. That way, you might kill me, but you sure as heck won't defeat my PvP buddy.

I grant you the point about spotting the Vamp, which may not be so easy if they aren't full Vamp. However, what I am saying and what I think others are saying is that if folks realize you are a vamp, then you will be focus fired. If that is true, then both you AND your friend are going down. In 1x1 and the smaller fights, you will have a distinct advantage, you are correct.

I'm surprised that no one has told him how rude he is and that everyone in the game is going to play it their way whether he likes it or not.

? Not sure who the "he" is you are referring to ...

Im just saying, between DK fire abilities, Templar fire abilities, fire staves, and siege weapons, thats a lot of fire damage being thrown around already. They dont even have to know your a vamp if your getting splashed everywhere with flames.

Not to mention if anyone has any fighter guild skills on bars already.

not sure about this, but doesnt foundry tactical combat UI reveal vampires? - on stage 2-4 starvation vamps get a debuff and the plugin usually displays all the buffs and debuffs your target currently has so technically speaking the stage should be displayed as well, making vampires easy to spot ... I might be wrong though

I suppose any smart Vampire would learn to pick their battles; and not rush head strong into combat with the main army; which is a coincidence really, as Vampires are granted additional stealth abilities and passives. I for one will attempt only to attack during the night, where I'm at my best.

A vamp nightblade (or any stealthy type) will reek havoc until discovered. *nods and gulps nervously*

And you bring your own snack. Nice.

On the resistance bit, its worth noting that Dragon knights and templars have a skill tree that does nothing but fire damage. In other words, if your like me, you will be stacking lots and lots of fire resist items to offset that.

The first rule of the Vampire club is.....you don't talk about the Vampire club! Rule #2: don't go out during the day.

Secrets in an MMO?

ooooo my sides...

From the comments i understand that no one who really knows even commented this, assuming that you agree. Good
Can i ask someone to post it in other ESO forums you know? Spread the word!

Its entirely your choice i'm just throwing an idea.
I think some of you already understood why this is important and that it is possible, with some little effort (very little actually).
Role-play wise it helps with the immersion.
The other not obvious benefits will be discussed later with the first vampire characters.

you're either trolling or .......

Heh. Secrets in the age of the internet. Funny.

Personally, I think its a shame. The devs went out of their way not to spoil this and put in a really cool system.

But anyone with Google can already figure it out.

or anyone who had no idea/inclination too until they read this post. Hadn't thought about it yet but now I know all about. Sorry OP, hoisted per your own petard. Admire the mindset behind the thread idea though.

Hope the Vampire players get a good guild together though (with Alts to serve as each others 'servants' - mitigating damage for their masters as Pseudonym suggested. That would be a fun guild to ... erm... slay!

how much extra fire dmg do vampires take?

looking at mist form coupled with drain essence in pvp it appears you could just tank someone till they are oom then crush them. mist form seems insane since it doesnt look like it hits any soft caps like armor and spell resist defensive abilities do.

edit - nvm for a sec thought drain essence drained magicka as well. guess not nvm lol.

I agree. It's really quite an interesting sentiment, but alas; we all have access to Google. Perhaps they should enact a permanent NDA surrounding Vampirism and Lycanthropy; that might work?

And here I was expecting something totally different ... to me, when I see the word Vampire, I expect blood-svcking vile creature of darkness...

But when I see the word, "Vamp(s)" the first image in my mind is quite a different one lol...

"A vamp is a woman who, not always being a stunning beauty, has the ability (and the figure) to drive men to their ruin.

(vamps referring to a group or more then one)"