Foul Murder

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:50 am

That Chimeri street gangster has rather eloquent speech and a strong vocabulary for being completely uneducated.

Just an unpredictable side effect of Skooma.

I must say I like this thief's backstory. I've always thought one such as this would be very fitting for Vivec. I also like how you've explained the origin of his name.

I keep looking at the drawing and I feel uneasy. What a death Nerevar had, if he indeed died that way.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:46 pm

Well, this is awesome. Can't believe they ripped his face off and took his feet though. Wasn't stabbing the poor guy with that impractical spear enough?
Well, they needed to remove the feet first, so he couldn't run away, and then his face so no one recognizes him if he somehow does.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:21 am

Removed his face so that the Nerevarine wouldn't have one either.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:13 am

Removed his face so that the Nerevarine wouldn't have one either.
ooooooh, good one.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:09 pm

Well, they needed to remove the feet first, so he couldn't run away, and then his face so no one recognizes him if he somehow does.
Then they should have shaved him too, that mohawk is like no other.

edit: also, If I'm not mistaken, Sotha Sil is wearing the ancestor to Morrowind's exquisite robe and the Vestments of the Ascended sleepers.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:39 pm

The feet were in the Sermons. Its the Velothi way to depict theft of the sacred, as the feet are holy. Vivec stole Nerevar's death scene.

So was the shaved hair bit. To make room for the fire.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:57 am

The feet were in the Sermons. Its the Velothi way to depict theft of the sacred, as the feet are holy. Vivec stole Nerevar's death scene.
You mean that scene where Vivec's feet are cut off by Molag Bal's merry party?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:20 am

Yep. Theft of the sacred==martyrdom.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:33 pm

Yep. Theft of the sacred==martyrdom.

Witness Muatra.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:50 pm

Witness Muatra.
You know, I saw a type of footwear that let's you attach a spear to your heel recently.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:50 pm

Talking about the Tribunal, what was Sotha Sil's weapon? Nerevar had Trueflame, Vivec had Muatra, Almalexia had Hopesfire, so what did Sotha have? I bet it is a staff or mace.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:21 am

That is the Wraithguard.

Pretty sure wraithguard was a glove, not a device attached to your wrist. I can see Seht's hand pretty clearly, it's the thing attached above it that I'm curious about(Wraithguard didn't have pincers)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:46 pm

Pretty sure wraithguard was a glove, not a device attached to your wrist. I can see Seht's hand pretty clearly, it's the thing attached above it that I'm curious about(Wraithguard didn't have pincers)

Read earlier in the thread; the artist all-but-confirmed it to be wraithguard.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:16 am

Talking about the Tribunal, what was Sotha Sil's weapon? Nerevar had Trueflame, Vivec had Muatra, Almalexia had Hopesfire, so what did Sotha have? I bet it is a staff or mace.

I get the feeling its not appropriate to give Sotha Sil a weapon, in the conventional, physical sense. His regret over the imperfections of the mortal world is what lead him to the godhood. His mind and madness were his tools.

But on that note, I don't think Sotha Sil was mad. I think he was terribly, terribly bored.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:25 pm

I keep looking at the drawing and I feel uneasy. What a death Nerevar had, if he indeed died that way.

It's quite disturbing. Perhaps it's best not to over think the mundane where the mythic is concerned but I can't help rubbing my ankles. The Tribunal were utter bastards.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:13 am

At least Sil seems the slightest bit remorseful.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:15 am

Much Love to Nerevar and Morrowind.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:32 pm

Pretty sure wraithguard was a glove, not a device attached to your wrist. I can see Seht's hand pretty clearly, it's the thing attached above it that I'm curious about(Wraithguard didn't have pincers)

You can see the fingers of the glove in the picture. It looks more like the concept art for Wraithguard than the ingame model:

http://imperial-library.info/content/page-35

You can see that Keening in this picture isn't a dagger, it looks more like a tuning fork (those little "arms" on Wraithguard when Sotha Sil wears it), which makes sense. The ingame model actually has little "arms" too, but at this point they're pitiful nubs, vestiges.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:MW_Wraithguard.jpg
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:15 am

It's quite disturbing. Perhaps it's best not to over think the mundane where the mythic is concerned but I can't help rubbing my ankles. The Tribunal were utter bastards.

Worse things have happened.

The Tribunal were anticipations of their Daedra. six and murder, plots and secrets, mystery and fate. Any Chimer would and should have done the same in their position. To not have embraced the Red Moment would have been to betray themselves. The consequences of each act must be accepted. Hence Vehk. Only his was true remorse, and through it he experienced both sides of this moment.

This is what you get for following Boethiah.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:06 pm

This picture is awesome. We need more of this sort of thing, this style. Just has all you need and dosen't dilute the tastiness with extraneous and boring details, everything on the screen is worth looking at. Everyone's very expressive and...mindful I suppose, They know what they're doing, this was all their decision. I also see an innocence here though, no snarling demonic visages or sadistic grins. Strikes the perfect balance I think.

/gush
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:40 pm

You can see the fingers of the glove in the picture. It looks more like the concept art for Wraithguard than the ingame model:

http://imperial-library.info/content/page-35

You can see that Keening in this picture isn't a dagger, it looks more like a tuning fork (those little "arms" on Wraithguard when Sotha Sil wears it), which makes sense. The ingame model actually has little "arms" too, but at this point they're pitiful nubs, vestiges.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:MW_Wraithguard.jpg

Thanks for the info, hadn't seen the concept art of it before. The tuning fork aspect of keening makes a bit more sense.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:03 pm

Worse things have happened.

The Tribunal were anticipations of their Daedra. six and murder, plots and secrets, mystery and fate. Any Chimer would and should have done the same in their position. To not have embraced the Red Moment would have been to betray themselves. The consequences of each act must be accepted. Hence Vehk. Only his was true remorse, and through it he experienced both sides of this moment.

This is what you get for following Boethiah.
Seems to me it was a pretty lousy move. They turned their backs on Azura, thus depriving themselves of an ally that could foresee any major problems that they themselves could have trouble with. In addition, they antagonized Sheogorath, something which would come back to bite them in a big way.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:12 am

For me, it just fits with the idea of Lorkhan being the Elfs trickster. Ayem becoming mad after losing her ''divine spark'' is an interesting parallel.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:45 pm

Worse things have happened.

The Tribunal were anticipations of their Daedra. six and murder, plots and secrets, mystery and fate. Any Chimer would and should have done the same in their position. To not have embraced the Red Moment would have been to betray themselves. The consequences of each act must be accepted. Hence Vehk. Only his was true remorse, and through it he experienced both sides of this moment.

This is what you get for following Boethiah.

Of course worse things have happened, both in reality and in the dream but a brutal murder can hit on a more personal level than numbers and dates, especially a detailed depiction such as this. I doubt they're just desecrating a corpse, although that would probably be a graver crime in Resdayn. Does Nerevar accept this, as you put it, any Chimer would and should have done the same? Or is this foul murder (I suspect the answer will probably be both)? Do the Chimer accept the betrayal of their lovers and friends as a part of their Daedra veneration? Is this foul murder through our human eyes but completely justifiable among the Chimer? In hindsight having a trio of god-kings looking out for you is great but I still don't know if it's worth even one life. Maybe I need to divorce myself from reality and slip into a more Chimeri morality. Although I don't want to end up trying to justify slavery!

Also, my mind can't help but wander to the ... practicalities of the event. Nasty stuff, but who can tell why elves do anything?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:51 am

Cutting off the dead's legs seems to be a Dunmeri ritual or custom of some sorts. http://images.uesp.net/thumb/5/56/TR-NPCs-SothaSil.jpg/712px-TR-NPCs-SothaSil.jpgdidn't escape it either.
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