Franchise Expansion

Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:51 am

I've always been a fan of extended game franchises, Halo especially. Being a big comic book/novel reader, I've always had a fond taste of other's own personal ideas of a universe. Fallout: New Vegas shows Beth is ok with others working on Fallout. But should Beth take it into other forms of media? Should there be Fallout novels? Or a Fallout Graphic Novel?

If anything, I wouldn't mind seeing other genre's having a try at Fallout. Sorta like Elderscrolls: Redguard. Other takes on the fallout universe have always interested me. And its not like its going to completely fail (Fallout Tactics), they just need to have respect to canon as much as possible and not screw up (Fallout:BoS).

A Fallout novel would also interest me. Maybe write a series based in another state or country. Show how the war has effected that side of the world and how they do indeed deal with it. I love novels especially because they add the most to a already franchise's canon. The elderscrolls got a great book, it would awesome to see Fallout get one as well.

Movies I've never been so much of a fan of. Personally if a Fallout movie is made, it should expand the universe using both familar material (to draw fans in) as well as new material (to make it more interesting), however most if all game movies just repeat the same plot or plots of the games their based off of.... Not to mention game movies just svck horribly.

Would this be a good idea? If so what other media's would you like to see fallount expand into? Discuss.
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Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:24 am

I've always been open, as a fan, to ventures into other media and game types with the franchise. Especially in the form of spin-offs of other gametypes (RTS, FPS, whatever.)

I think what everyone thinks of when they think of a "Fallout movie" is something that would try to encapsulate one of the games themselves, simply a retelling of Fallout 1, or something. Obviously that would be the wrong direction, but I don't think it would necessarily make for a bad movie if they started a completely new and self-contained storyline set within the Fallout universe. Ditto with comics or a novel or something.

There's plenty of untold stories to be explored in other media, after all. Like Lyons' trek across the country to get to DC - there's a whole treasure trove of stuff right there. Or the formation of the NCR during the time period between Fallouts 1 and 2. Or something dealing with some of the more peripheral character you run across in the games. That's just a couple ideas off the top of my head that could easily make good fodder for a movie, novelization, or comic book.

I don't think it would be a problem, so long as it was quality work.
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Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:45 pm

There are far too many good books in the world for me to care. And if the writing in the games is any indication of how a book would turn out then thanks but I'd rather read the name of the rose or crime & punishment or something again and again. If the writing in the game is not an indication, then I'd much rather they directed their energy towards making a game with a decent story before bothering to infiltrate other media.

Also, there are far too many good films for me to care etc. etc.

Then again, I'm hardly a true devoted fan of FO (or of anything for that matter :D)

As for spin-offs, sure, why not? Fallout had its share of them anyway: 2 spin-offs for three games in the main series + with FO3 being hardly in the exact same genre as 1&2 anyway.
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Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:50 am

Well, I read a lot of books - they don't all have to be Crime and Punishment for me to enjoy them. (I've even read through all of the Twilight books - at my wife's urging.) I figure if it ended up on par with the Mass Effect books, then it should be all right. They weren't the best books in the world, but it expanded on background for which the game is set, and at least served as a nice distraction for a week.

Generally, it's not the same writers working on the videogames writing the books (and certainly not if it came to making a movie,) so it's not like they'd be using resources better put towards making a better videogame, anyway. And it's not like, supposing the novelist was a better writer than those working on the game, that they'd be better writing the game, necessarily, either. It's sort of a different skillset, going into that. A good novelist doesn't necessarily make for a good game writer.

As far as movies go, I have sort of the same opinion. Just because it's no Citizen Kane doesn't mean it can't be worth watching. I wouldn't expect anything more than an action sci-fi movie, after, and I have fun with those. There's only ever so many excellent examples of any media - I can only reread or rewatch those few so many times before it begins to get dull. I find it useful to, well, lower my standards, on occasion. That's all I'd expect out of a venture into other media from the Fallout franchise - just a bit of fun. It'd be wholely disconnected from Bethesda's work on their games, anyway, and if successful could mean more money in their pocket - which would lead to a bigger budget for their next videogame.
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Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:33 am

A novel would be cool, especially if they hired Timothy Zahn.
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Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:27 am

Well, I read a lot of books - they don't all have to be Crime and Punishment for me to enjoy them. (I've even read through all of the Twilight books - at my wife's urging.) I figure if it ended up on par with the Mass Effect books, then it should be all right. They weren't the best books in the world, but it expanded on background for which the game is set, and at least served as a nice distraction for a week.
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As far as movies go, I have sort of the same opinion. Just because it's no Citizen Kane doesn't mean it can't be worth watching. I wouldn't expect anything more than an action sci-fi movie, after, and I have fun with those. There's only ever so many excellent examples of any media - I can only reread or rewatch those few so many times before it begins to get dull. I find it useful to, well, lower my standards, on occasion. That's all I'd expect out of a venture into other media from the Fallout franchise - just a bit of fun.

Books in the league of Crime & Punishment are maybe a few hundred or so, but there aren't only two categories. I spent most my reading time last summer with Agatha Cristie's books - no Crime & Punishment certainly but they were definitely fun distractions, and they were good... and there are hundreds such good books - so I see no reason lowering my standards ('broadening my horizons' seems to work a lot better). Cheap, unimportant ones are a penny a dozen, so I don't see any reason of willing to compromise just to get one more of them. At least not unless I absolutely wanted to read a book set specifically in Fallout's world, but why would I? I'm no such big a fan of Fallout's (or of anything for that matter). If I'm going to specifically request something, then I request for a book that will rival Dostoevsky, because that's what I need most, and not cheap distractions, which I can find plenty.

I'm making an educated guess and I'm assuming that if a Fallout book was to be made, it would not be that good, I probably won't read it, so I don't care about it... I'd rather I had a game with a really good story - because those are extremely rare - maybe five or ten or so. Raising the standards of their medium is what a game designer should be aiming for, not lowering the standards of all other media (because what's the point of that anyway? looking good in comparison?).


It'd be wholely disconnected from Bethesda's work on their games, anyway, and if successful could mean more money in their pocket - which would lead to a bigger budget for their next videogame.

That could be a fair argument if I had any suspicion that they don't have big enough a budget already :lol:
A huge budget isn't going to make a deeper game anyway, it will just buy a few more explosions - and I don't care too much about those either.
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Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:43 am

I wouldnt mind a good book based on Fallout. The one thing I dont want to see is a FO movie. I honestly dont think there is enough time to actually lay down the events prior to fallout and have a story line after the bombs fell in a movie quite frankly. Also, there has never been a video game movie that was decent.

I think a mini-series or series on TV would be fantastic though. You would have all the time in the world to cover every angle as to what has happened and what is happening 200 years later. I dont think this would happen, I imagine it would be quite expensive to have a fallout theme in a television series.
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Post » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:37 pm

I wouldn't mind a book or a short film using a more advanced game engine (Machinima)

Actually seeing things like the D.C. Chronicles (made by Simmazorrone or whatever his name is) give me hope that such a thing could succeed.

One thing I do not want to see is an anime, Halo Legends was a mistake, every game dev should acknowledge that.
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