It seems like it's been forever since I started looking for a replacement for my copy of "Descent I & II: The Definitive Collection"..The last purchase I ever made from a "Future Shop", due to being sick of the crap condition most items tend to be in, that come out of that chain of stores..my copy was no different. I only did it because, at the time, NO other stores in the entire city still had it in stock anymore back then, NONE..I was desparate. What I did get started out functional, dispite the large, solid black blob on the surface of the data-side of Disk 1. But only days later, it ceased to be read in every single CD-ROM I had access to, including the one it installed and read from during play to begin with. Luckly, this happened within the 10-day return period..or so I thought. Good ol Future Shop wouldn't even replace it, let alone refund my money. *sigh*

Anyways, FINALLY, someone points out that recently, there's been a few *reasonably priced*, brand-spank'n new copies of Descent I & II: The Definitive Collection on amazon.com. So naturally I tear through the internet as fast as my 26.4kbps connection could allow me, to see this for myself, hoping I could grab a couple sets.....And then my kind of luck kicks in again...Being Canadian, it turns out I can't purchase various types of items from amazon.com. What makes it a double-kicker even, I can buy CDs through amazon.com, but not videogames on CDs! *starts ripping hair out of his scalp* And yes, I'm well aware there is an amazon.ca version of the service, BUT, again, just my luck..the meager TWO Descent-related items made available are definitely not what I'm looking for. 8-|

...SO, my questions for anyone who can answer is; (1) Could someone please explain to me why Amazon refuses to allow what is perfectly and completely possible to do on eBay?(which for the record, I have been using for a few years now, and have NOT ONCE ever seen a single new copy of Descent 1 & 2: The Definitive Collection up for sale)...And (2), is there anyone here who happens to live in Arizona, who could slap a friend of mine for me?..For trying to convince me that Amazon was far better than eBay..heh.

{P.S. - I have 2 solid reasons why I never buy used items, online or otherwise..So there's no point in going there, and I won't bore yall any further with the details.}

There's a new service calling itself GOG.com (Goold Old Games) where you can purchase ... well, good old games for little money (USD 5,99 to USD 9,99) and download them, completely DRM free. They are offering Descent 1+2 among many others. GOG.com is currently in beta, but you can sign up there.

And once you have the game data, you can plug D2X-XL (for those who love improved graphics with many new effects) or DXX-Rebirth (for those who just want to run vanilla Descent on modern hardware and OS's) on top of it (they're both free).
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..Yeah, I've seen this "GOG" thing mentioned in other posts on here. But, as I had rather briefly mentioned in my original post, I'm rather stuck with an dial-up connection that tops out at a mear 26.4kbps..No that's not a typo, it really is that slow..it really is less than half a 56k modem..Believe it or not, such a connection speed ain't extinct yet, lol. Technically, the service is a 56k service, 56k modems on both ends, but, it can't achieve even that due to distance and these ancient phonelines that I'm convinced were once used as dental floss for the dinos during the Jurassic Age, heh.

Descent 2 by itself is just waaaaaay too large to download, and with dial-up's inherant ability to drop connection at the worst times possible, makes the idea virtually impossible. Atleast Descent 1 is a more realistic size, but even with that one, it would take a whole night of downloading to retrieve it, again, barring the dial-up connection doesn't fail at some point during the download. And ofcourse, ontop of all that, a Download Manager is quite useless with a connection this slow, lol.

So, as you can see, my options to get a copy are limited to hopes and prayers that someone will someday, somehow, come across a new copy and put it up for sale on eBay, instead of amazon.com(starts pulling more hair out)...Three years and running......*rolls up into the fetus position and weeps*

...Thanks for the attempt to help though.

Hehe... hearing somone call 250MB "way to large" makes me giggle.

You can't read, do you? He is on dial-up.
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I know that, but its just funny, since back when the game came out, 250MB was literally really big.

..Technically speaking, not-even-half-arsed dial-up, seeing as half of a 56k connection is the 28.8k..mine being 26.4k, lol.

Believe me, having more modern games reaching sizes of a few gigs, not including expansions and extra fan-made content, it also feels really weird having to SAY even just 50 megs is really too much to have to try downloading, let alone 250, lol. *cries a little*

We're told out here in the boonies of the boonies, that we're to expect cable services to finally reach us by 2010...but only "maybe". *cries a little more*

As Frigidfangs can neither d/l D1+D2 from GOG nor obtain a new copy on ebay or Amazon, I had offered him to send him a DVD containing a full D1+D2+D2X-XL install on DVD provided he purchased a D1+D2 license on GOG.com (so sending him the stuff would be legal). I would have sent the DVD for free.

Here is the reply I got:

frigidfangs,

you could have gotten all you pretend to desire for just 6 USD, and if you'd have been half way serious about your now rather pathetic whine above, you'd have taken the risk. 6 USD is ... well ... as good as nothing. I have a reputation in the Descent world, and apart from that I have my real name and address printed on my web site. I am not affiliated with GOG.com apart from being a beta tester and customer there myself (and having purchased a Descent:Freespace 1+2 license there).

It cannot get much more stupid than your idiotic reply. Actually I feel offended because you question my integrity.

There goes your chance of getting what you claim you want so badly. So badly you're not even risk to put 6 dollars into it.

karx11erx
Descent 1 & 2 for Windows, OS X & Linux
Only a dead troll is a good troll.

Oh well, his loss!

Indeed.
Descent 1 & 2 for Windows, OS X & Linux
Only a dead troll is a good troll.

Soooo, let me get this straight...

Because I've never heard of this GOG.com site prior to having ever logged on to these forums, in turn, not knowing anything of it's legitamacy, as well, not knowing you personally at all ontop of that, and then suddenly I get a request for money, and my personal information(home address), and am expected to, on a whim, have faith and believe a stranger is going to send me what I paid for on said site, til only recently I had never heard of...and despite all this, I'm STILL not supposed to doubt and question any of the legitamacy of this whole supposed offer?

..And because I questioned it, you decided to take this, what *YOU* initially started in private, hidden away from prying eyes, which by the way, only furthered my doubts about this whole "offer"..back into the forum to discredit me in some way?..To question my sincerity about my wanting this game?

Anyone with an iota of common sense would have questioned the legitamacy of your "offer" if they were put in the same situation. But since you want to be insulting about it, fine..I suppose I shouldn't expect you to understand this, seeing as I'm well aware that common sense comes at an extreme premium these days..Maybe even more costly than oil, heh.

But the simple fact is, I don't know you, and I don't know this GOG.com site, nor anyone that could have told me anything about either, to be throwing caution to the wind. And it wasn't just about a few dollars. Any ACTUAL legal transaction ALWAYS involves more than just money..there's personal information exchanged, billing information exchanged, records made, insurance, etc...Much more than just, send money to this site, which, as far as I knew, could have been completely phony, and just hope someone sends a copy from far outside the country.

Sorry you couldn't understand the situation from my angle..though, knowing how things work online for so long, I'm sure you didn't even try to.

I should probibly also now make it clear, before anyone picks up the wrong idea from my original post, and add the fact, that I did NOT post what I originally did in hopes of finding help in getting any kind of copy of Descent. I did NOT for a single moment even think anything could be possibly done to help me retrieve a copy in any kind of format...

I simply explained my situation regarding my troubles finding a copy, and asked if anyone could explain to me why Amazon refuses to allow Canadians to buy certain items, including videogames, through amazon.com, despite the fact that Canadians CAN buy through eBay.com, an other U.S. site, without any problems what-so-ever.

I asked this here because, Amazon themselves don't explain their decision to do things this way. And I thought, seeing as the game in question is Descent, and this is the creator of the game's forum, and chances are atleast 1 fan of the game might have had dealings with Amazon, having an active account they make regular use of, that someone here might be able to enlighten me. This is the only expectation I had when I started typing my original post.

This guy has got to be in the running for Darwin awards... Pretty funny stuff here.


frigidfangs,

you could have gotten all you pretend to desire for just 6 USD, and if you'd have been half way serious about your now rather pathetic whine above, you'd have taken the risk. 6 USD is ... well ... as good as nothing. I have a reputation in the Descent world, and apart from that I have my real name and address printed on my web site. I am not affiliated with GOG.com apart from being a beta tester and customer there myself (and having purchased a Descent:Freespace 1+2 license there).

It cannot get much more stupid than your idiotic reply. Actually I feel offended because you question my integrity.

There goes your chance of getting what you claim you want so badly. So badly you're not even risk to put 6 dollars into it.

karx11erx

fangs,

do you believe you're making anything better with your "explanation"? You could have googled and asked instead of going paranoid.
Descent 1 & 2 for Windows, OS X & Linux
Only a dead troll is a good troll.

Wow Frigidfangs you not only looked a gift horse in the mouth but you kicked in its teeth too. Good luck on your paranoid quest. Someone offered to help you out. And perhaps a bit of advice... whine about Amazon to Amazon... not here. I have to agree with Von Vulcan's comments. Truly a shallow gene pool you swim in. Don't be a knob!

ok ok...

Let's keep in clean, boys. This is the first real hope for a future for the game we love. Lets not pollute the gamesas Boards by eating our own. International communication is difficult at best, especially with the unpredictability of text based conversations.