I was talking to my cousin, who lives in Mississippi, over the phone tonight. We're more like friends than family. I basically grew up with the guy and we've been best friends ever since we were in our cribs.

Anyway, the subject of conversation turned towards our love of Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. We started talking about what weapons we liked to specialize in when we play the Fallout games. Then, we started talking about playing the entire game and beating it using only one or two particular weapons. I happened to mention that I could probably beat the game using nothing but "unarmed weapons" (boxing gloves, power fists, various bladed gauntlets, etc etc) and NEVER even pick up a gun. My cousin said "Well, if you're THAT sure of yourself, I"ll bet you 50 bucks that you can't beat Fallout New Vegas using nothing but boxing gloves and a BB Gun for distance attacks"...lmao. I told him I would have to think about it and get back to him on it.

Now, I would like ALL of YOUR opinions on this. Given the various perks that rely on a high melee and/or unarmed score, and of course, a high strength and agility, I think it COULD be done! Sure, it would be tough, you'd probably take LOTS of damage, things would take longer to kill, and you'd have to buff up your natural damage resistance with perks...but I seriously think I could win this bet. YOUR THOUGHTS?

Well it is possible. The limit edition BB gun can kill things with sneak crits. however with boxing gloves it will take a long time to kill things once knocked out. Also are you allowed to use you two companions? If so they you could finish the game with zero kills if you wanted to.

Hell you can finish the game with just speech if you really wanted to.

HA! We failed to discuss the use of companions...but knowing him, companions probably wouldn't be allowed. He just wants to see if I can actually do it...and I do believe it can be done. Also, inside the Lucky 38, I believe there is a "special" pair of boxing gloves called Golden Gloves. I was also wondering if its possible to make BB's at a workbench and whats needed to do so?

Now THAT I"d like to see...lol

Dunno in the nilla game but you can buy and find a lot of BB's if you explore everywhere. I know because I barely used the limited edition BB gun and I have like 1200 BB from just finding them. Also are mods allowed? If so that can make a big impact on the difficulty. Since If your using mods like WMX you can put mods on Uniques to make them powerful.

I would probably also need the perk called "Jury Rigging" so that I can easily repair my boxing gloves and BB Gun.

IDK, since if you play all of the DLC's, Dead Money strips you of all weapons and armor. So if DLC are exempt to this rule, then sure you could.

No...no mods...all of this would be done on my Xbox360.

Thanks Colonel...I forgot about the DLC's too. This is why I told him I"d get back to him on it. I was sure there were things I would overlook.

Is there any other perks, items, or whatever ya"ll could suggest that would help me actually accomplish this? I really wanna take his money...lol. For instance, isn't there a "special" BB Gun somewhere in New Vegas? I vaguely remember finding one once but I can't remember where.

Yeah, it's in a well that you 'unlock' after healing Rex's brain and talking to him. At least it does with WW, I don't know if you can without Wild Wasteland since I've never played without it.

Oh yeah! Thats right! Timmys well. Its laying next to some kids skeleton! Man, I gotta quit toking...lol

One part of the game scares me. What happens if I run into Deathclaws? I don't think a BB Gun or boxing gloves are gonna be much help...lol

Really high perception so you have a chance to detect them, equally high sneak and all the attacked perks so you have a chance to get by them. Light armor and the appropriate perks would be a good idea as well for faster movement.

Also, to beat FNV, all you need to do is complete the main storyline. Sticking to Mr. House is the fastest and most direct, especially if you have maxed barter and speech skills. Half the main encounters are then little more than very high speech checks, with the BB Gun and gloves being for the trash enemies. You can even talk Lanius into leaving.

This guy does it basically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNRF3yuAUuE

With barely to no fighting and that win at the end...

Yeah, the high perception would be a MUST to avoid the Deathclaws. On my radar, when they show up due to my perception, I can usually tell if its Deathclaws or not, just by the movement of the lines. However, sometimes I can't tell if its Cazadores or Deathclaws just by their movement. On the radar, they move in similar patterns.

And yes, sticking to the main storyline shouldn't be a problem. I"m not looking to take on every quest in the game.

Thanks for your help, everybody! I"m gonna call him back tomorrow and get this underway, with all of the exceptions and what not ya"ll have reminded me of.

A good build is a unarmed and guns character. With a 80-90 unarmed you can get the paralyzing palm attack.

Yeah, that one would be very cool. Also, I think theres one called "Abomination" if you have a high enough melee or unarmed skill that does a considerable amount more damage against Deathclaws and a few others.

pfft that 10% increase on Abominations? that's nothing compared to those golden gloves. In fact, why are you so scared? pure Unarmed/Melee builds are one of the most deadliest builds of all time. You can negate 15 points of DT (Deathclaw has a DT of 15 ), have a solid good chance of knocking them down, with a high Luck, Finesse, Light Touch, Slayer, your basically a walking Knockout waiting to happen. With all the special charge up attacks as well, you basically got the game in a bag. Deathclaws in the horizon? svck up a bit of Turbo and your on a roll laughing as your knocking down deathclaws with ease and punching them to death. With stonewall perk and a high endurance (along with the health increase perks), you can basically not get pushed back from a deathclaws leap attack or anything else to be exact (which means you can rush in with Turbo and wtfpwn them).

Face it, Unarmed builds got it the most easiest and yet hilarious time in the Mohave. Seeing as the DLC Dead Money takes your stuff, just play through the Mohave Wasteland. Done and DONE, tell your cousin after you beat the game "GG, NO RE FOOL" <3

hint hint: Golden Gloves has a x2 Critical Chance, and the highest with clothing, and perks, your Critical chance can go up to 30%, so 30x2=whopping 60% chance of critical hitting Deathclaws (which isn't much, but hey! what can ya do eh?)

plus they do a large amount of fatigue damage, so you can knock out Deathclaws (and keep them down) for a looong time.

Wow! I wasn't familiar with the stats on the Golden Gloves. Thats pretty cool. And yeah, all of those perk suggestions are great...THANKS! I"m not gonna be able to use any melee weapons though...just boxing gloves.

After all of your suggestions, am I gonna even NEED the BB Gun? LOL! I could probably get him to come off with another 10-20 bucks for the bet if I tell him I won't need the BB Gun...lol

nah you won't need it bud, if your going through DLC's (which I doubt) then yes, keep the unique BB gun, for the Marked men and whatnot who snipe form a distance. other then the Fiends at Morale's corpse, I haven't seen any enemy that is position on a high ledge that a melee/unarmed guy can't get at.

oh, and yes, you can basically go through this entire game, with your BARE HANDS, just like lanius <3 isn't that fun?! rofl. Key to this is all teh unarmed/melee perks I listed, and a good amount of Endurance (if you can, 9 Endurance is basically ftw, Agility needs to be 7 though, Charisma can be dropped to 1 for the 4 points you can place in Endurance, then try as much as you can get high Luck and critical chance. You can do this with Finesse, Recon Beret, Ninja (though that perk is a bit weird..) and whatnot. If you managed to play through Zion, you can get Joshua's suit, which gives you another +5 Critical Chance! oh and Light touch as well.

10+5+5+5+5=30x1.15=34.5% critical chance with all bonuses from everything I listed above.

with Built to Destroy, you get up to 37.5%
in V.A.T.S. you get a +15% which then turns it into 52.5%
which then with your Golden Gloves, you effectively get a critical hit every time you lay down a few punches on people.
but that's not the good part, the good part is when you get Super Slam perk, so every time you punch, you have a 15% chance of knocking them down, plus with fatigue damage, Ranger Takedown, your pretty much armed up to make any enemy drop on their A$$ silly.

Easily.

The unique BB gun can actually hit harder than the Ratslayer on a crit (74 damage on a crit), and Unarmed gets to a point where it can literally two-shot everything within 5 feet of you.

I used the Golden Gloves for a while.....:facepalm:
You'll fall so much if you decide to willingly fight everyone, if you take Super Slam you may stand some chance along with all the Crit Hit boosters. Sadly I didn't.....:rolleyes: