Im old. 40 exactly.
I grew up with doom/quake on PC.But I was never really the RPG type guy. Didn't play dungeons and dragons, basically more of a "run and gun" rather than "sit and think "gamer.
Somewhere around Call of Duty Modern Warfare (1) I realized that while usually being a bit smarter and sneakier than most of the people on the multiplayer servers I was in fact getting slower with the hand eye coordination.
I began playing Oblivion shortly thereafter.
It took a while for me to be able to work up the discipline to take my time and plan out a character and alot more discipline to begin to read lore and back stories.
Now I sit awaiting FNV.I absolutley loved FO3 (250+hrs).The fact that I can still have a decent FPS experience or use VATS is priceless.Also I always loved finding goodies in the dungeons and other areas of the doom/quake single player worlds.So obviously scavenging around the wastes is right up my alley.
Part of me still misses the days of the "Arena" feel of Quake3.My kids were young but we would play heads up for hours.And the camaraderie of a clan was always nice.
I realize this make me a possible ^(&%^^head to some , or I might even seem a bit of a dullard for not having any interest in the first and second games in this franchise.This is just the gamer I am.
I was wondering if any other oldschool FPS'ers out there had now become FPSRPG'ers like me.
Thanks.

Well yeah, I'm not as old as you (27) but I only played Quake and the like, then I fell in love with rpg's with the playstation 2 and then I never played anything else, I would rather have a real rpg experience but that's not what sells anymore. Would you rather have an rpg with extremely poor production values, or a hybrid with good value?

I am 38, I still like both forms of play to be honest.
I do find myself slowing up a little but experience can still help in an all out shooter FPS, I also find keeping my hand in with twitch shooters helps with the RPGs and sims as well.
I am still pretty fearsome in ARMA2 thanks to to training an FPS gives and I find it benefits me in that game having done a bit CoD a day or two before.
Having quick reactions alone isn't that useful, having better trained reactions is where it is at.

I find fallout to be a good chill out out game that will easily eat up your day before you know it and certainly favour it over a standard shooter styled FPS.

Nah, Ive always been into rpg's, tbs, fps, whatever. I just love to compete wether its AI or human. Im 33 btw, been gaming since before I could read. Actualy learning DOS helped me learn to read.

From the sound of it you realy should try an mmorpg if you have the free time to spare. Raiding can be action packed, but emphasises knowledge over twich reflexes. Find a guild with people you like and youll be in gaming heaven. The teamwork and feeling of accomplishment from progressing threw content with a fun and competant group is hard to match. Insane time sink though.

Nah I've always been an RPG'er.
FPS' are a lot of fun and I've always been able to play them but always preferred something with a slower pace over it.
So while I don't hate the FPS change I still would prefer it if it went back to bird-eye turn-based. :laugh:

I'm 31, I played a lot of FPS games until a decade ago when I got fed up of them, they were just too much of the same and still are. It wasn't until 2004 when I was fully introduced to WRPG's in the form of Knights Of The Old Republic 1 which I enjoyed a lot, before then I had mostly played JRPG's and had played a demo of Fallout 2 which I had enjoyed as well as trying out Baldur's Gate when I had also enjoyed.
Moved away from JRPG's thanks to KOTOR 1, finally having the option to have my main character as female instead of the usual cliche JRPG male was the turning point - choice as well as the choice in how to play the game instead of being led by the hand all the way through.

I was worried about getting Fallout 3 at first since when I saw my first screenshots of the game my thoughts were 'Great, now they've gone and ruined an RPG series by turning it into yet another slapped together generic shooter'. My gut feeling about the game though was that I should buy it because it might just surprise me.
An hour into the game and I was hooked, still am and that's after taking two years, or around about that to complete it as well as get the full 100% in the full game as well as all DLC. Just can't get enough of the game.

The first 360 game I played was Oblivion and I loved it, still do.

With being disabled - poor hand eye coordination since very early childhood and which is getting considerably worse as I get older - I place a lot of effort and focus into making my hands work well, leaves me in constant pain, but I get things done regardless - and a learning disability - then I tend to struggle with games that require me to be quick, I prefer to take my time and go slowly. So games like Fallout and Oblivion are the best option for me.

Looking forward to New Vegas, hope it's every bit as good, better even, than the excellent Fallout 3.

I'm only 15 but i enjoy classics. I'm a fan of Neverwinter nights, Dibalo 1, Daggerfall, the arena, Morrowind even (though that's not to classic)

Your not alone. I am 16 and I enjoy Diablo II, Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and Morrowind.

Trying to get into earlier Fallouts and Daggerfall/Arena. However i have not completed those games yet. :sadvaultboy:

I played alot of Doom and Wolfenstein 3D when they came out, and a bit later Duke Nukem 3D. Lots of fun, but I always somehow preferred other types of games. Other less twitchy games - some of the RPGs of the time, Steel Panthers, Panzer General, Civilization and that sort of more slowpaced and thoughtprovoking games.

Though there are fun games today too, alot of the "genreblending" and "streamlining" of today is disheartening because it just means the death of certain very good gameplaystyles. So that being said, I like some FPS games but generally speaking I hate that the FPS (accompanied by its friend the Streamlining) is sticking its nose in almost every soup these days. This has led to a increasing decline of the gaming market which is both good and bad - good, because the actual good games are the exceptions of the rule and thus feel much more refreshing when the appear and bad because the actual good games are so few in numbers. I prefer RPGs to be RPGs and FPSs to be FPSs, at least more than how they appear today.

(IMO)

I think http://www.duelinganologs.com/comics/2010-10-07.png little picture is a nice sum up of gaming today and gaming then. (just to lighten the mood of this post) :laugh:

I'm really young compared to you, and I am not a big FPS fan. I mean, I enjoy some(mainly only Valve ones), but they just don't give me the same excitement as playing Oblivion or Fallout 1. If Champions of Norrath counts as a RPG, then that is my first one. I played that game on the PS2 when I was around 7, and did I love it. Ever since, I fell in love with the whole "create whatever character you want, level him up, customize him" style. I didn't have any Internet connection until about 2008, so I couldn't do any research on these types of games. When I got Oblivion though, I don't think there was a moment in my life where I was more happier. Oblivion is my favorite game of all time(though, I'm burned out of it, so I just can't play it).

I just turned 40 a couple months ago and grew up on the like of Pong, Space invaders and Pac Man. I've also played a ton of arcade games and sports oriented games as well, but was never one for FPS's. RPG's were really the thing that I liked the best, although I hated the original Fallouts (hated turn based, isometric games then as well as now) however I did love the story and lore.

When I saw the screenshots of Oblivion, Morrowind, and fallout 3, I figured why not. I had fallen back in love with video games after a decade of not playing them. Now here we are awaiting the release of New Vegas and I'll be playing that as well.

Tehe. I turned a cousin of mine over to our side this way. Back in the day (Sheesh, it's only ten years...) with Deus Ex (I'll count till someone installs it.) and then handing her the tougher stuff like Daggerfall, and then Morrowind, and in the end nerd-ifying her until she liked stuff like the old Fallout games.
So it's always nice to see people explore new territory. ^_^

Fallout is a Role Playing Shooter.. Fallout has always been an RPG.

Love both genres and I'm very young. I've played the old school RPG's and FPS' though now I mainly stick to RPG's there are very few FPS' that interest me anymore.

That link is so true, I can remember when getting to the end of a game, and this was before save points, was an achivement in itself. Now it's all been made so easy with constant checkpoints and yet there are so many these days who cheat, mod and hack their way through a game that has no challenge at all because they don't have the skill, nor the patience to actually learn and improve from mistakes.

The first time I played Fallout 3 I didn't use the save often method, instead I decided to go explore and wandered into a ruined house and was almost slaughtered by a raider with a flamer. Instead of like many do these days - crying, screaming and whining that the game is too hard - I learned from my mistake and kept learning from every mistake I made. By the time of my fourth playthrough - I had restarted four times due to mistakes I couldn't fix due to not having a save file handy - I had memorised a huge amount of the game and developed methods of play which improved my chances of survival.
The only time I even botherd to use a guide was when the GOTY edition came out and I wanted to find the bobbleheads, it helped with that. The rest of the time the guide wasn't used due to all I had learned.

Many, though not all, of the young gamers toay are too impatient, always wanting instant rewards and to rush their way through things without taking the time to learn bit by bit and note their mistakes.

Yes, Demon's Souls getting the reputation of being "so hard" was the real sign of current weenie-ness in gaming. Oh, you mean I would have to actually learn to use the combat system and practice to get through, and if I die I can't just reload? Unfair!

I'm very interested in Demon's Souls, but I don't want to go buying a PS3 for just one game, I usually like to wait and see if there's at least four games of interest before deciding. So far there's only one game of interest on PS3 for me, though a few others sound tempting, but I'm unsure.

I can remember playing Sonic 3 and Knuckles combined back in the mid 90s, that took me about 14 hours to complete due to making so many mistakes but I kept going. The challenge was great. Same with Phantasy Star 4, took me ages to complete it due to it's challenge and I enjoyed every moment.
These days though a lot of games take barely a handful of hours due to how easy they are, there's no feeling of achivement with so many games now when they're finished.

That's more true than it probably should.

Yeah, I'm quite like the OP. I'm 38, played a lot of Doom back when I was in university. Doom3 got me back into regular PC gaming in 2004, and I quite like a well crafted single player FPS. It's linear, sure, but that allows them to create impressive scipted sequences and present a well-paced story.

The STALKER series introduced me to a more open world setting in the FPS genre, and I really loved the freedom to explore and scavenge, and do quests on my own schedule. Fallout3 was my first real RPG in over a decade (I lost interest in fantasy settings a long time ago), and I loved the combination of RPG elements with real-time gunplay.

These days, I don't enjoy constant-action shooters--after an hour, I need a break. Fallout paces the combat out with a lot of exploring and other types of gameplay that I enjoy equally to fighting. I find I can play FO3 for hours on end without needing to stop and give my nerves a rest.

I like playing shooters. However, the simple fact is I only need one. There are not enough differences amongst the shooters to really make me want to play more than one or two. So, while I will have about 10 RPGs installed, a few RTS, some action games the only shooter I have currently is Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I did have one of the Tom Clancy ones on last year so it is not like I stopped getting them years ago, but good game play is more important than age. To that end, Far Cry is more than enough and I enjoyed that back when I played it. A good friend of mine is a shooter addict. He plays them all the time and gets all the new ones. So, I can try all the new games out. I personally see no reason to get a new shooter game because it will be a prettier version of a game I have played before with some weapons tweaks. I am looking forward to Brink though, it seems to have a good story and that can get me to play just about any game. Plus the Multiplayer aspect is interesting. But, that is another discussion for another thread.

With RPGs, I get different games with each franchise. Witcher plays different than Oblivion which plays different than Baldurs Gate which is different than Dragon Age which is different than Planescape. Sure while there is some gameplay overlap and D&D games have more similarities than differences, each game is unique experience. Plus, it is more a thinking persons game than a shooter is.

Pretty much same thing happened to me, i never was big on multiplaying FPS games, so i came to the slower paced "thinking" genres a bit quicker (i'm only 30 ).



That's a perfect sum up. Regarding the first picture: [censored] you Battletoads, [censored] you! :swear: After weeks of hard work, i did make it to the second to last level, but never got trough that. It was some sort race track level where a glowing orb or something chased you, IIRC. Nowadays i can barely make it to the second level :blush: But i did beat Solar Jetman and Megaman 1 & 3 (the rest are easy compared to those, expect 10 which keeps kicking my ass).

If it wasn't for Fallout 3 being an FPS RPG I wouldn't have ever bothered with this series. It would have been another one I shrugged off, like Command and Conquer. I just can't bring myself to play anything turn-based, it bores me to hell, and isometric POV just doesn't give the world the pop I like. I honestly think it was the best thing that could have happened to Fallout, shifting from isometric TB to FPS.

For me it was the complete opposite. Ever since I was a kid I preferred RPGs to action games because I had all the time in the world to plan out a character and kick lots of @ss in the game with them. I liked action games but they weren't my forte because I wasn't that good with them. Or so I thought. In the early days of Quake 1, and Counterstrike, I thought I svcked in FPS PVP so I was strongly discouraged from really trying it. Then when anti-cheat programs came out like Punkbuster and VAC, suddenly I became a decent player - IMAGINE THAT! Now I'm enjoying Modern Warfare 1, 2, play a bunch of action-oriented 1st and 3rd person shooters and have enjoyed them ever since. Two of my current favorites are Borderlands and BioShock because, while they are dedicated shooters, they are heavily flavored with RPG elements to them. :goodjob:

Did you even read the OP? And C&C is not turn based.

I had always loved shooters. I still love shooters, especially the FPS variety. Its only been somewhat recently that I have really gotten into the RPG genre and have been becoming increasingly bored with what shooters have been giving me. That being said, does anyone remember Biohazard Battle? I used to play that on the Sega Genesis with a friend when I was real young and we did quite well and after enough time put into the game we managed to beat the game. Anyways I had the chance to play the game again recently and found that I am no longer able to make it past the third level and even getting there was a fight and a half.