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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:52 am

Hall of Infamy... sounds like an awesome (yet hugely cruel) idea...

That's an awesome idea...

Although I'd have to say it only be granted to modders who make a completely crappy mod, say it's amazing while flaming others and being jerks. :lol:
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Isabell Hoffmann
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:51 am

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Shannon Lockwood
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:28 am

I played this mod a while ago. Quite personally, I thought it was a waste of time. It was incomplete, badly put together, and in most places downright impassable. As someone who strives for perfection in EVERYTHING, it made my eyes bleed. I think I played about a half hour and gave up.



Man, there are a lot of us on these forums, aren't there? Is Morrowind like an Aspie-magnet or something? I've got it too, so I'm not going to start bashing (never fear). I think it's a great disorder. :goodjob:

-JKS


Half that it's Morrowind, half that it's modding of a game. Morrowind is a: very easy to mod, and b: FULL of stuff to catalogue mentally and expand upon, and is a natural target of Aspergian savant behavior.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:48 am

FULL of stuff to catalogue mentally and expand upon, and is a natural target of Aspergian savant behavior.

I agree. There is something, for lack of a better word, soothing about the immense detail and repetition that can be found in the CS.
I also can admit to a certain hesitation in releasing my mod, because then I will have to communicate my thoughts about it if people need help, when I rather just go back to the CS and start on my next mod. :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:30 am

Yeah... that's one of my concerns as well. I released Aleft without its puzzle complete because I don't want someone sending me a "how do I" PM and I have no way to answer it effectively.

-JKS
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:05 pm

Yeah... that's one of my concerns as well. I released Aleft without its puzzle complete because I don't want someone sending me a "how do I" PM and I have no way to answer it effectively.

-JKS

You could just make a messagebox that once you reach the end it says "Beta"?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:13 pm

I agree. There is something, for lack of a better word, soothing about the immense detail and repetition that can be found in the CS.

Immense detail?? I would hardly call the Morrowind landscape immensely detailed, IMO it's really barren and undetailed, want detail? Go to places around TR like Kemel Ze or Port Telvannis, that's immense detail.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:19 am

Heh i just read that that guy is extremely full of himself. He goes on and on about how he's not saying he wants TR to fail so he has the biggest mod ( When im sure thats what he wants ) and yet his mod is just terrible. I want the author to stumple apon this thread i wish to know what he thinks? Does anyone know his username?


Whoah - don't get too carried away - this forum is not for Boxxy hunters - most users don't ridicule others either.

I personally wouldn't of dl'd that mod myself - but many different people get into modding and it obviously met some desire that modder had. Obviously a number of people comenting here did dl it and it wasn't for them but something about it must of interested them in the first place.

For the modder to come across this thread I would feel sorry for them - the forum is pretty constructive in it's criticism's usually and if someone does work that doesn't fit in it's normally ignored and just disapears. I like how the forum users noramlly come to the defense of other modders like when someone posted an uncomplimentary description of Emma recently they were quickly called out on it.

I think you will get in hot water if you start trying to track users down.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:27 am

Hmmm.... I think they mean the detail inherently possible in the Construction Set (which makes possible the detail of TR), not in Morrowind itself?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:15 pm

I think you will get in hot water if you start trying to track users down.

[sarcasm]So I can get banned by searching though the members list? Oh noes! Seeya all, I guess I shouldn't have legitamitely found and contacted some people. Seeya all, it was nice being around this forum.[/sarcasm]
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:05 am

Whoah - don't get too carried away - this forum is not for Boxxy hunters - most users don't ridicule others either.

I personally wouldn't of dl'd that mod myself - but many different people get into modding and it obviously met some desire that modder had. Obviously a number of people comenting here did dl it and it wasn't for them but something about it must of interested them in the first place.

For the modder to come across this thread I would feel sorry for them - the forum is pretty constructive in it's criticism's usually and if someone does work that doesn't fit in it's normally ignored and just disapears. I like how the forum users noramlly come to the defense of other modders like when someone posted an uncomplimentary description of Emma recently they were quickly called out on it.

I think you will get in hot water if you start trying to track users down.

Heh i actually kinda agree sry :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:57 pm

Immense detail?? I would hardly call the Morrowind landscape immensely detailed, IMO it's really barren and undetailed, want detail? Go to places around TR like Kemel Ze or Port Telvannis, that's immense detail.


How many of the in-game books have you read? How much do you pay attention to the factions, and how they feel about each other? Did you notice how carefully all the Dwemer ash piles in Bamz-Amschend were placed?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:14 pm

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/ThrignarFraxix/HowTheHellDoYouDoThatAnyway.jpg


Well, that's a nice promotion up from the Seyda Neen Census and Excise office. Should have kept his old robe, though.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:18 pm

How many of the in-game books have you read? How much do you pay attention to the factions, and how they feel about each other? Did you notice how carefully all the Dwemer ash piles in Bamz-Amschend were placed?

Ok ok, I thought you meant just the exterior landscape, which is IMO terrible, but the rest of the game's detail is quite amazing.

Sorry, I misread that comment.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:45 pm

I thought my sarcasm was pretty obvious after looking at those screenshots. Sorry for the confusion >_<
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:09 am

It is not right to rip it out of this guys mod whether he is here or not, nor is it particularly mature to try and track him down just to try and provoke a reaction.

The mod might not be to everyone's taste but at least the guy tried.

Back off, I'm sure there are plenty of people who dont like your mods and could pick holes in them too.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:02 am

It is not right to rip it out of this guys mod whether he is here or not, nor is it particularly mature to try and track him down just to try and provoke a reaction.

The mod might not be to everyone's taste but at least the guy tried.

Back off, I'm sure there are plenty of people who dont like your mods and could pick holes in them too.


I quite agree. Never mind that any kind of religious mod would be...well....debatable anyway. This isn't my kind of Mod either (And I AM a Christian), but this open bashing is kinda sad. I'd never make a Mod anyway, this thread is enough to scare the hell out of me. (No pun intended) :(
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:09 am

It is not right to rip it out of this guys mod whether he is here or not, nor is it particularly mature to try and track him down just to try and provoke a reaction.

The mod might not be to everyone's taste but at least the guy tried.

Back off, I'm sure there are plenty of people who dont like your mods and could pick holes in them too.


Either you're joking or you're the mods author. The arguments you used can only be used on a mod that scored somewhere between 1 and 10 on the grand scale of quality. This scored lower.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:35 pm

Considering the highly abnormal situation with the mod and it's author, I'd say he deserves getting this kind of feedback.

1: The guy makes a terrible mod, which is ok because we all start like this.
2: The guy thinks highly of his mod, again, ok.
3: The guy is immature and unmodest while flaming/bashing Tamriel rebuilt, it goes down from here.
4: The guy mentions the Morrowind community "dying" because of Oblivion, this is a point of view and he's allowed to have that, although the way he voiced his opinion was really immature, and really reads like it's an insult to the community.

I think these are 4 steps of imfamy for a modder to take, really, the guy is no better than a troll. Just because he made a mod and he's (or was) a modder that doesn't mean he's *one of us*.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:59 pm

it goes down from here




exactly.


[censored]ing about someone elses mod in a non-constructive manner just encourages / provokes bad behaviour from the author of the mod and makes the community look hostile to any one looking to release a mod.

alot of ppl never release the tweaks they do in the CS because they dont think that they compare to the "big name modders" work and if a mod like this is allowed to deliberately ridiculed and torn to shreds on the official forums then i believe it will discourage even more ppl from even having a go at modding.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:04 pm

"3: The guy is immature and unmodest while flaming/bashing Tamriel rebuilt, it goes down from here.
4: The guy mentions the Morrowind community "dying" because of Oblivion, this is a point of view and he's allowed to have that, although the way he voiced his opinion was really immature, and really reads like it's an insult to the community."

If it wasn't for those people wouldn't have felt the need to bash his mod (atleast not so much). A terrible mod is one thing, but a terrible mod from a terrible person is another thing entirely.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:26 pm

I'm curious when exactly the tone of this thread went south. I may have said it was terrible, but it was a fun romp taking all of those screenshots. Terrible, while generally an objective concept, is universally accepted here. Like I said, this is the Rocky Horror Picture Show of mods. I consider that a good thing. I actually kind of want to try it again since I finally decided to get the MCP (omg! my first real mod!)

On a semi-related note. The brothers who made this made a TC for oblivion if my memory serves. It was intentionally campy though and had human plinko. I have not played this mod.

I like being nice (when not reviewing for TR) as much as the next person, and I am not one to bash mods (again, when not reviewing for TR), but when something is so bad it is funny it should be called as such. Tracking down people just to get reactions doesn't benefit anyone, but this has been established. I'm tired and going to bed now since it is almost 7 am, but I leave you with this quote from Victor Hugo, "The just man frowns, but never sneers. We can understand anger, but not malevolence"
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:35 pm

i tried that tc can't remember its name though.
it was.... let's just say the same quality as the other.

seriously they tried (and failed) to make oblivion a hack and slash.

Edit: it was called mount archon
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:35 am

Ok, I'll admit that the reason I bashed the mod is because it's content and quality just really was so bad (and the author's opinion only contributes to the negative attitude) that I had to say something, and seeing as the guy is no longer modding, it's not really useful to give constructive criticism to the modder because there's no construction setting going on any more.

I don't normally act like this around mods, but this one (and the author's view) really got to me.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:29 pm

Immense detail?? I would hardly call the Morrowind landscape immensely detailed, IMO it's really barren and undetailed, want detail? Go to places around TR like Kemel Ze or Port Telvannis, that's immense detail.

What?! Considering MW was pretty much the first of it's kind (insanely huge open world) to have a completly hand-placed world. Also it was made 7 years ago... it's pretty friggen detailed. It's more detailed than Oblivion, that's for sure. Not to mention that the devs had to restrain themselves because of the then-current PC requirements. Mods like TR can take advantage of newer PCs and knowing, years later, what can and cannot work with the engine.

On topic... way to gang up and bomb on one guy. You don't like his mod, and he's a jerk. So what? Let it go after the third post. I'm actually surprised this topic is still open. Years ago it would have been locked on page 1 and people would have gotten warning bars under their names.
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