From: [RELz] Reneer's Guard Overhaul : IV - Oblivion

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:50 pm

so far I've always used your guard overhaul and never encountered serious problems, until now. after updating this mod, my game started crashing at a certain point during the bruma quest "a brotherhood betrayed". after the guard told me to meet him at the inn in 1 hour to arrest the alleged vampire hunter, oblivion crashed each time I tried to wait. no matter whether I "quick waited" or just stood around for 1 game hour, the result was always a ctd. after deactivating RGO, everything went back to normal.

all I did was updating obse to v19 and overwriting old RGO with the new one. now I'm kinda reluctant to install it again, because I have a number of open quests where guards may be involved as well.

I don't know what might be causing this CTD - though, to be honest, as I've said in the past I'm sure the sole cause is not RGO itself but rather a combination of mods. Unfortunately if I can't figure out what is causing the CTD I can't fix it. Where you running version 2.53?

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:46 pm

hey, thanks for the quick response. first I was running 2.52 but after seeing the update, I immidiately updated to 2.53. the thing is, I've already progressed to this particular quest stage before installing the update. all I had to do was talking to the guard. he left as usual and after 1 hour oblivion crashed.

you're probably right about various mods affecting RGO. I'm going to add my load order here, though some mods were recently installed (after I already removed RGO). those mods are TIE and Better Cities. StealthTweaks.esp is my own little modification of some stealth related variables, like higher backstab bonuses and better combat evasion.

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Aktive Moddateien:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]09  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.0]0B  HorseCombatMaster.esm0C  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]0D  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]0F  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]12  Better Cities .esp13  LoadingScreens.esp14  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp15  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]16  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  300_Combat Sounds.esp17  Storms & Sound.esp18  Rainbows.esp19  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]1A  WindowLightingSystem.esp1B  300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp1C  AliveWaters.esp1D  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp1E  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp1F  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp20  ChaseCameraMod.esp21  ImprovedSigns.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]22  Milt-SecretStorage.esp23  P1DseeYouSleep.esp24  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp25  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.3]26  kuerteeCleanUp.esp27  Streamline 3.1.esp28  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.6]29  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]2A  FastEquipping.esp2B  DLCHorseArmor.esp2C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]2D  DLCOrrery.esp2E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2F  DLCVileLair.esp30  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]31  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp32  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp33  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]34  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]35  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp36  Assassin_Blade.esp37  ninjacowl.esp38  Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp39  Thieves Arsenal.esp++  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp3A  UFF & RM Black Exnem Warrior Armor.esp3B  Armamentium female.esp3C  shadow lord_normal.esp3D  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp3E  DLCThievesDen.esp3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]40  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]41  Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp42  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp43  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp44  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp45  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp46  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp47  Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp48  Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp++  Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp49  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp4A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp4B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp4C  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]4D  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]4E  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp4F  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]50  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]51  TIE.esp  [Version 1.41]52  TIE+Frans NPC Inventory.esp  [Version 1.0]53  Fransfemale.esp54  Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp55  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]56  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]57  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.9]58  BrotherhoodRenewed - Oblivion XP Patch.esp59  Insanity's Pet Shop.esp5A  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp5B  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp5C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp5D  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp5E  Ranokoas City Stealth Exits.esp  [Version 2.2]5F  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4.1]60  thievery.esp61  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp62  DLCfrostcrag.esp63  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp64  Knights.esp65  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]66  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp67  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.1.COBL]68  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]69  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6A  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]6B  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6C  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp6D  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp6E  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp6F  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]70  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]71  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp72  Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.esp73  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp74  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]75  za_less_NPC_conversations.esp76  DurableEquipment_20.esp77  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]78  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]79  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]7A  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp7B  RealisticForceLow.esp7C  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]7D  LTDVampireOverhaul.esp7E  RshAlchemy.esp7F  RshAlchemyRecipes.esp80  StealthTweaks.esp81  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]82  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]83  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp84  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp85  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp86  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp  [Version 4]87  Oblivion XP.esp88  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp89  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]8A  AutoEquip.esp8B  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.0]8C  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]++  Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp8D  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.0]8E  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]8F  No More Annoying Comments.esp90  MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp  [Version 1.2]91  Remove_Persuasion_Game_Replies-3059.esp92  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp93  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp++  Life Detected - Fountain - Small - 1.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]94  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:58 pm

Reneer,

I am having the same issue. This is an awesome mod and I really want to find out what is going on. Right now, when it hits midnight on the second day of my game it will always CTD. I have tried sleeping through midnight, waiting through midnight and traveling to a completely different location and everytime the game CTD's. Once I removed Reneer's it stopped crashing. So apparently, some calculation the mod is making a midnight is not working well in my configuration. I do have quite a few mods loaded.

Without Reneer's everything seems fine right now.

On another note, I had to remove Origin of the Mages guild because it would cause a crash everytime I died and tried to reload from a previous save. Game would always start up fine but could never reload afterwards. Annoying because I die A LOT!

Here is my mod list.

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 01]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 01]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  CURP_Controller.esm0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm0D  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]0E  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]10  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 01]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 01]18  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp19  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1B  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]1C  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]1D  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1E  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.0.2]1F  FF_Real_Thirst.esp20  Streamline 3.1.esp21  DLCHorseArmor.esp22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 01]23  DLCOrrery.esp24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]25  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp26  DLCVileLair.esp27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]2A  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp2B  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2C  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp2D  Armamentium female.esp2E  DLCThievesDen.esp2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]30  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]33  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp34  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp35  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 01]36  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 01]37  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 01]38  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 01]39  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version s]3A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp3B  OMOBS.esp  [Version 01]3C  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 01]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]3D  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]3E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 01]3F  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 01]40  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 01]41  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_NoSpiders.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_NoWyverns.esp  [Version 01]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 01]42  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Giants.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Balrogs.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]**  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 01]**  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 01]44  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 01]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]45  Fransfemale.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]46  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp47  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp48  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp49  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]4A  Spear_of_Bitter_Mercy.esp4B  eyja.esp**  eyja Vwalk.esp4C  TheElderCouncil.esp4D  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp4E  Tona's_ModsStore.esp4F  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp50  Apachii_Goddess_Store Vwalk.esp51  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp52  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]53  Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp54  DLCFrostcrag.esp55  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]56  FrostcragAlchemySorter.esp**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp57  DLCFrostcrag_OOO.esp  [Version Beta]58  Knights.esp59  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp5A  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp5B  RTT.esp**  RTT Vwalk.esp5C  Mighty Umbra.esp5D  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 01]5E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]5F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]60  xulTheHeath.esp61  XulEntiusGorge.esp62  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]63  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]64  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]65  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]66  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]67  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]68  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]69  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]6A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]6B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]6C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]6D  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]6E  xulPantherRiver.esp6F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]70  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]71  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]72  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]73  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]74  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]75  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]76  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]77  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp78  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]79  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]7A  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp7B  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]7C  quickstart.esp7D  RealisticFatigue.esp7E  RealisticForceMedium.esp7F  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp80  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]81  SetBody.esp82  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp83  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp84  RealisticLeveling.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp85  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]++  1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp**  1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp86  Sonia.esp**  Sonia Vwalk.esp87  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]88  ZUAmberMadnessOverhaul.esp89  Get Wet - just droplets.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock 1.esp8A  Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 01]8B  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]8C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks for a great mod! I wish I could figure out what is wrong with my setup.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:11 pm

Reneer,

I am having the same issue. This is an awesome mod and I really want to find out what is going on. Right now, when it hits midnight on the second day of my game it will always CTD. I have tried sleeping through midnight, waiting through midnight and traveling to a completely different location and everytime the game CTD's. Once I removed Reneer's it stopped crashing. So apparently, some calculation the mod is making a midnight is not working well in my configuration. I do have quite a few mods loaded.

Without Reneer's everything seems fine right now.

On another note, I had to remove Origin of the Mages guild because it would cause a crash everytime I died and tried to reload from a previous save. Game would always start up fine but could never reload afterwards. Annoying because I die A LOT!

Here is my mod list.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 01]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 01]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  CURP_Controller.esm0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm0D  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]0E  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]10  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 01]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 01]18  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp19  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1B  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]1C  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]1D  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1E  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.0.2]1F  FF_Real_Thirst.esp20  Streamline 3.1.esp21  DLCHorseArmor.esp22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 01]23  DLCOrrery.esp24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]25  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp26  DLCVileLair.esp27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]2A  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp2B  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2C  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp2D  Armamentium female.esp2E  DLCThievesDen.esp2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]30  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]33  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp34  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp35  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 01]36  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 01]37  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 01]38  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 01]39  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version s]3A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp3B  OMOBS.esp  [Version 01]3C  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 01]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]3D  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]3E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 01]3F  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 01]40  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 01]41  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_NoSpiders.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_NoWyverns.esp  [Version 01]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 01]42  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Giants.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Balrogs.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]**  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 01]**  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 01]44  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 01]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]45  Fransfemale.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]46  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp47  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp48  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp49  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]4A  Spear_of_Bitter_Mercy.esp4B  eyja.esp**  eyja Vwalk.esp4C  TheElderCouncil.esp4D  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp4E  Tona's_ModsStore.esp4F  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp50  Apachii_Goddess_Store Vwalk.esp51  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp52  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]53  Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp54  DLCFrostcrag.esp55  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]56  FrostcragAlchemySorter.esp**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp57  DLCFrostcrag_OOO.esp  [Version Beta]58  Knights.esp59  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp5A  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp5B  RTT.esp**  RTT Vwalk.esp5C  Mighty Umbra.esp5D  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 01]5E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]5F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]60  xulTheHeath.esp61  XulEntiusGorge.esp62  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]63  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]64  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]65  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]66  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]67  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]68  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]69  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]6A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]6B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]6C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]6D  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]6E  xulPantherRiver.esp6F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]70  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]71  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]72  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]73  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]74  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]75  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]76  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]77  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp78  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]79  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]7A  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp7B  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]7C  quickstart.esp7D  RealisticFatigue.esp7E  RealisticForceMedium.esp7F  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp80  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]81  SetBody.esp82  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp83  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp84  RealisticLeveling.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp85  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]++  1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp**  1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp86  Sonia.esp**  Sonia Vwalk.esp87  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]88  ZUAmberMadnessOverhaul.esp89  Get Wet - just droplets.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock 1.esp8A  Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 01]8B  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]8C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks for a great mod! I wish I could figure out what is wrong with my setup.

I have no clue what is causing the CTD issues. You are both running very large mod lists and there is no way for me to determine what in RGO - if anything - is directly causing the crashes.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:37 pm

So that's what's causing "A brotherhood betrayed" crashes in my game. I would post a mod list but I am in the process of reinstalling my game, I lost the voice sound and could not find out why after two days of e-bugging I gave up.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:57 pm

I have no clue what is causing the CTD issues. You are both running very large mod lists and there is no way for me to determine what in RGO - if anything - is directly causing the crashes.

Is there any tests or reports I can run to help with the troubleshooting? Does pluggy report anything with conflicts? I would be happy to troubleshoot but I am not a modder and not sure were to start.

It may not be too hard to isolate since it always happens at midnight on the second day for me.

Hope I can help,
bbbarr97

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:51 pm

Is there any tests or reports I can run to help with the troubleshooting? Does pluggy report anything with conflicts? I would be happy to troubleshoot but I am not a modder and not sure were to start.

It may not be too hard to isolate since it always happens at midnight on the second day for me.

Hope I can help,
bbbarr97

The problem is first that RGO doesn't do anything on a timed basis, except remove crime-gold from the player. Even if RGO did things on a timed basis more, it still wouldn't help me diagnose the problem, since I'm not experiencing it and likely it is being caused in part by other mods. If RGO was the sole culprit, I'd be experiencing this exact same CTD issue, which I'm not. Obviously removing RGO changed something - but there is no way of knowing what.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:40 pm

Reneer,

I am having the same issue. This is an awesome mod and I really want to find out what is going on. Right now, when it hits midnight on the second day of my game it will always CTD. I have tried sleeping through midnight, waiting through midnight and traveling to a completely different location and everytime the game CTD's. Once I removed Reneer's it stopped crashing. So apparently, some calculation the mod is making a midnight is not working well in my configuration. I do have quite a few mods loaded.

Without Reneer's everything seems fine right now.

On another note, I had to remove Origin of the Mages guild because it would cause a crash everytime I died and tried to reload from a previous save. Game would always start up fine but could never reload afterwards. Annoying because I die A LOT!

Here is my mod list.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 01]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 01]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  CURP_Controller.esm0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm0D  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]0E  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]10  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 01]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 01]18  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp19  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1B  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]1C  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]1D  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1E  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.0.2]1F  FF_Real_Thirst.esp20  Streamline 3.1.esp21  DLCHorseArmor.esp22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 01]23  DLCOrrery.esp24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]25  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp26  DLCVileLair.esp27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]2A  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp2B  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2C  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp2D  Armamentium female.esp2E  DLCThievesDen.esp2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]30  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]33  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp34  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp35  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 01]36  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 01]37  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 01]38  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 01]39  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version s]3A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp3B  OMOBS.esp  [Version 01]3C  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 01]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]3D  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]3E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 01]3F  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 01]40  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 01]41  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_NoSpiders.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_NoWyverns.esp  [Version 01]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 01]42  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Giants.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Balrogs.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]**  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 01]**  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 01]44  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 01]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]45  Fransfemale.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]46  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp47  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp48  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp49  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]4A  Spear_of_Bitter_Mercy.esp4B  eyja.esp**  eyja Vwalk.esp4C  TheElderCouncil.esp4D  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp4E  Tona's_ModsStore.esp4F  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp50  Apachii_Goddess_Store Vwalk.esp51  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp52  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]53  Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp54  DLCFrostcrag.esp55  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]56  FrostcragAlchemySorter.esp**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp57  DLCFrostcrag_OOO.esp  [Version Beta]58  Knights.esp59  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 01]**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp5A  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp5B  RTT.esp**  RTT Vwalk.esp5C  Mighty Umbra.esp5D  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 01]++  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 01]5E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]5F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]60  xulTheHeath.esp61  XulEntiusGorge.esp62  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]63  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]64  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]65  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]66  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]67  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]68  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]69  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]6A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]6B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]6C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]6D  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]6E  xulPantherRiver.esp6F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]70  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]71  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]72  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]73  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]74  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]75  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]76  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]77  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp78  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]79  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]7A  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp7B  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]7C  quickstart.esp7D  RealisticFatigue.esp7E  RealisticForceMedium.esp7F  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp80  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]81  SetBody.esp82  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp83  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp84  RealisticLeveling.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp85  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]++  1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp**  1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp86  Sonia.esp**  Sonia Vwalk.esp87  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]88  ZUAmberMadnessOverhaul.esp89  Get Wet - just droplets.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock 1.esp8A  Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 01]8B  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]8C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks for a great mod! I wish I could figure out what is wrong with my setup.

I reported this same midnight-crash issue a while ago. It appears to be some sort of conflict between RGO and The Elder Council. Running both at the same time sometimes causes the crash at midnight for me. The Elder Council is not supported anymore, but disabling RGO temporarily, waiting past midnigh, and re-enabling is a feasible workaround.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:01 am

I reported this same midnight-crash issue a while ago. It appears to be some sort of conflict between RGO and The Elder Council. Running both at the same time sometimes causes the crash at midnight for me. The Elder Council is not supported anymore, but disabling RGO temporarily, waiting past midnigh, and re-enabling is a feasible workaround.

How long have you been playing after disabling it, waiting past midnight, and enabling it again?

I will also try getting rid of the Elder Council. I would rather use RGO then it. Both would be nice of course.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:10 pm

I consider my game pretty much broken after this mod.

I have the steam version of the game with OBSE 0019. I tried using the in-game configuration menu to disable guards following you when you sneak (they'll randomly appear in the middle of the woods, and they are very annoying in town), but they wouldn't stop following me. I tried loading the ini file (which is actually a txt file - intended?), and the guards still follow me. I can't go back to using the in-game configuration menu, because clicking on the thing just loads stuff from the txt file.

I changed the line
set RenCrimeConfig.guardsfollowsneak to 1

to

set RenCrimeConfig.guardsfollowsneak to 0

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:35 pm

I consider my game pretty much broken after this mod.

I have the steam version of the game with OBSE 0019. I tried using the in-game configuration menu to disable guards following you when you sneak (they'll randomly appear in the middle of the woods, and they are very annoying in town), but they wouldn't stop following me. I tried loading the ini file (which is actually a txt file - intended?), and the guards still follow me. I can't go back to using the in-game configuration menu, because clicking on the thing just loads stuff from the txt file.

I changed the line
set RenCrimeConfig.guardsfollowsneak to 1

to

set RenCrimeConfig.guardsfollowsneak to 0

Can't edit posts on this board? Pretty dumb.

I finally got the configuration method to switch back (apparently I wasn't crouching). It seems no matter what I do, I can't get guards to stop following me. I've tried changing the guard follow settings in the in-game configuration and I've tried stopping the addon using that same menu.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:31 pm

Can't edit posts on this board? Pretty dumb.

I finally got the configuration method to switch back (apparently I wasn't crouching). It seems no matter what I do, I can't get guards to stop following me. I've tried changing the guard follow settings in the in-game configuration and I've tried stopping the addon using that same menu.

Uhh.... yes you can? :blink:

Anyways, I'll look into it for 2.54. And you sure you weren't either sneaking or holding out your weapon in town? Guards will follow you if you do either, not just sneaking. I have no problem getting the Guards to stop following me once I stop sneaking and having a weapon out in town. Also, if you follow the directions that are posted on the first post in this thread I'd be much obliged.

And if you really consider your game broken after encountering one little bug, you could turn off the mod.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:53 am

Im pretty sure this has been pointed out before, but in some versions of Wrye Bash (im using the latest and still have this) RGO will be set as virtually active and will not work until you simply check it active as you normally would. i just wanted to comment because people tend to usually have a large mod setup and when something is bashed as virtually active we leave it alone unless noted otherwise like All Natural mod that notes you have to activate two of them instead.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:26 pm

Uhh.... yes you can? :blink:

Anyways, I'll look into it for 2.54. And you sure you weren't either sneaking or holding out your weapon in town? Guards will follow you if you do either, not just sneaking. I have no problem getting the Guards to stop following me once I stop sneaking and having a weapon out in town. Also, if you follow the directions that are posted on the first post in this thread I'd be much obliged.

And if you really consider your game broken after encountering one little bug, you could turn off the mod.

Well NOW I can edit my posts...

Even if I'm out of line of sight from EVERYONE in town, if I either sneak or have my weapon out, a guard will come running from nowhere and follow me until I stop sneaking/put the weapon away. If I'm near a city, out in the woods, the same thing happens. Like I said before, I can't change this behavior with either the in-game settings OR the config file. One thing I haven't tried is reinstalling OBSE. I'll do that now.

Unfortunately, when I turn off the mod, the save no longer works (crashes the game). Disregard what I said about 'breaking the game.' I was already have a rather frustrating day.

Edit: Here's what's in the log file. Is it not supposed to record changes made to the config?:

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2010-11-15 - RGODebugFile - RGO Version: 2.53 768.261
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now following the player. 768.261
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now a guard... 768.261
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is no longer following the player. 769.945
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now following the player. 771.225
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now a guard... 771.225
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is no longer following the player. 773.097
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now following the player. 774.25
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now a guard... 774.25
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is no longer following the player. 774.921
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now following the player. 776.06
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now a guard... 776.06
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is no longer following the player. 776.824
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now following the player. 777.791
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now a guard... 777.791
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is no longer following the player. 778.586
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now following the player. 780.614
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now a guard... 780.614
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is no longer following the player. 781.503
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now following the player. 782.501
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is now a guard... 782.501
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0003C2C7) is no longer following the player. 784.046

Double edit: reinstalling OBSE did nothing!

Another edit: while in jail, if I sneak or use my fists, a guard will come and open the jail cell, counting as a jail break.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:52 pm

Ok, that's interesting. Not totally surprising - I suppose I need to put more checks on the package(s) or add more checks into the Guard's script for 2.54, whenever I get around to it.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:31 pm

I think I fixed my issue. Here's what I did:
Went to my saved games folder and changed my quicksave.bak file into a different save so I could proceed down a different line in a quest
Killed someone
Spent time in jail to cover the 1040g bounty

Guards no longer follow me while I'm sneaking or while I have my weapon out. Additionally, the log file is showing more:

Spoiler

2010-11-16 - RGODebugFile - RGO Version: 2.53 251.477
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe = 40, Crimegoldframeprev = 0 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Bernadette Peneles) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Davide Surilie) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Davide Surilie) is holding onto the crime-gold. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Davide Surilie) is adding crime-gold to player. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Shameer) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tilmo) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeTrackerQuestScript: addcrimegold = 40, crimetype = 3, playerlocation = 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Vandorallen Trebatius) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.57
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tumindil) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 252.007
RenCrimeRingObjectScript: No Victim, removing crimegold, victimtimer = 10.015 261.494
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Julienne Fanis) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Toutius sixtius) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Hal-Liurz) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Bothiel) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Owyn) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Mog gra-Mogakh) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Erina Jeranus) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Graklak gro-Buglump) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Else God-Hater) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Gunder) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Agnete the Pickled) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Thamriel) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Marie Palielle) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Valandrus Abor) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Ysabel Andronicus) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Mercator Hosidus) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Maglir) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Eyja) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Agronak gro-Malog) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Ah-Malz) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Druja) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Shum gro-Yarug) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.773
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Vigge the Cautious) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 285.662
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe = 1040, Crimegoldframeprev = 40 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Bernadette Peneles) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Shameer) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tilmo) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 286.115
RenCrimeTrackerQuestScript: addcrimegold = 1000, crimetype = 4, playerlocation = 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tumindil) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 288.004
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe is less than Crimegoldframeprev. 295.384
RenCrimeRingObjectScript: No Victim, removing crimegold, victimtimer = 10.015 296.132
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is now following the player. 309.006
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is now a guard... 309.006
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is no longer following the player. 310.425
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is now following the player. 311.829
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe is less than Crimegoldframeprev. 312.705

Despite the fact that at the bottom is says "Guard is now following the player," they do not follow me.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:03 pm

I think I fixed my issue. Here's what I did:
Went to my saved games folder and changed my quicksave.bak file into a different save so I could proceed down a different line in a quest
Killed someone
Spent time in jail to cover the 1040g bounty

Guards no longer follow me while I'm sneaking or while I have my weapon out. Additionally, the log file is showing more:

Spoiler

2010-11-16 - RGODebugFile - RGO Version: 2.53 251.477
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe = 40, Crimegoldframeprev = 0 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Bernadette Peneles) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Davide Surilie) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Davide Surilie) is holding onto the crime-gold. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Davide Surilie) is adding crime-gold to player. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Shameer) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tilmo) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.477
RenCrimeTrackerQuestScript: addcrimegold = 40, crimetype = 3, playerlocation = 251.477
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Vandorallen Trebatius) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 251.57
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tumindil) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 252.007
RenCrimeRingObjectScript: No Victim, removing crimegold, victimtimer = 10.015 261.494
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Julienne Fanis) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Toutius sixtius) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Hal-Liurz) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Bothiel) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Owyn) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Mog gra-Mogakh) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Erina Jeranus) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Graklak gro-Buglump) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Else God-Hater) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Gunder) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Agnete the Pickled) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Thamriel) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Marie Palielle) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Valandrus Abor) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Ysabel Andronicus) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Mercator Hosidus) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Maglir) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Eyja) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Agronak gro-Malog) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Ah-Malz) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Druja) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.305
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Shum gro-Yarug) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 284.773
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Vigge the Cautious) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 285.662
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe = 1040, Crimegoldframeprev = 40 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Bernadette Peneles) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Shameer) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tilmo) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 286.115
RenCrimeTrackerQuestScript: addcrimegold = 1000, crimetype = 4, playerlocation = 286.115
RenCrimeCivilianRingScript: NPC (Tumindil) is checking to see if player committed a crime against him. 288.004
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe is less than Crimegoldframeprev. 295.384
RenCrimeRingObjectScript: No Victim, removing crimegold, victimtimer = 10.015 296.132
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is now following the player. 309.006
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is now a guard... 309.006
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is no longer following the player. 310.425
RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (0000A0C2) is now following the player. 311.829
RenCrimeNodeQuestScript: Crimegoldframe is less than Crimegoldframeprev. 312.705

Despite the fact that at the bottom is says "Guard is now following the player," they do not follow me.

That does look a whole lot better.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 am

Si it normal that every guard, whether be in the city or the ones patrolling the roads follow me around everywhere if I have my weapon drawn ? I't's quite annoying to have a guard follow me in a dungeon.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:32 am

Is it normal that "Bribe the guard" show up in dialog with guards if I haven't committed any crime? I don't see anything about that in the readme.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:54 pm

Is it normal that "Bribe the guard" show up in dialog with guards if I haven't committed any crime? I don't see anything about that in the readme.

i believe its so you can bribe them to move to a different location (like if they are standing by a store you want to rob).

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:24 pm

i believe its so you can bribe them to move to a different location (like if they are standing by a store you want to rob).

Ah, makes sense. Thanks.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:20 am

I have a problem with this mod, it seems. I would be happy with how it works by default, but it conflicts with supreme magicka, creating red magic effects and sounds around everyone.

Now, I know about the option to change the visual effect for the mod, but it simply isn't working. Actually, nothing I change in the configuration menu or the txt file seems to work. Even if I choose to disable the mod in-game, it first says nothing, then, after some time, after I've visited the menu again, it says that the mod has stopped... But it keeps working, guards follow me if I sneak/draw my weapon, the red mist effect keeps appearing.

Switching to loading from the ini file doesn't seem to work either, it changes nothing. It doesn't help that nowhere is it mentioned which spell compatibility value corresponds to which visual effect.

The menu sometimes also loops, but I can turn it off by pressing space before selecting an option, then.

My load order:

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Oblivion.esmTR_OoT_Main.esmScreenEffects.esmAll Natural Base.esmCobl Main.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmBreakUndies.esmDA Run Fatigue.esmCM Partners.esmLattamerv3.esmxeoex.espCobl Races TNR.espCobl Races TNR SI.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espLoadingScreens.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - SI.espImmersive Interiors.espphinix-waterfix.espVisually Realistic Lava.espStorms & Sound.espRainbows.espWindowLightingSystem.espAkatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.espPortable Campsite.espPortable Campsite - Quickstart.espDropLitTorchOBSE.espGet Wet.espScreenControls.espVipCxj_RadarSystem.espStreamline 3.1.espMap Marker Overhaul.espMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espMaleBodyReplacerV4.espMODAssassinsCreed2_Revisited.espAC2 Revisited HGEC.espAssassin_Blade.espBBBRoseoftheGuard.espChapel Shop.espDMCWeapons.espFSN Equipments.espKitsune.espSilverlight Armor by Jojjo.espTreasuresOfTyrV10.espThe Soul Reaver.espWm-Portable-Coffins.espWarglaives by Jojjo v1.0.espThieves Arsenal.espThieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.espAL_AuroranBattleSteed.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espCobl Tweaks.espAlluring Potion Bottles v3.espAlluring Wine Bottles.espHalcyon Island.espIvellon.esp[NPC] Sharmina.espadTH-druidsdomain.espAL_Maverick.espAL_WildSpright.espadTreeHome.espImperial Furniture Renovated.espAmaterasu no Yume.espBrotherhoodRenewed.espBruma Hunting Lodge.espCastleWestWeald.espCastle_Dunkerlore_V1.esp(DC) Sutch Reborn.espAbriael_Human.espBridFetishGirl.espBridFetishGirlTrainerAddon.espGianna.espHentai Mania.espKvatch Rebuilt.espKvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.espGlenvarCastle.espMountainShackR121.espMolagBalTreasury.espMountainTower.espmystery of mausoleum.espStar's Rest.espTR_Stirk.espWoodcutters_Cabin_COBL.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espDLCfrostcrag.espKvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.espFrostcragRebornCobl.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espHoarfrostCastle.espElsweyrAnequina.espElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.espReaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.espElsweyr plantations & co..espTales from Elsweyr Anequina.espWalkabout.esproad+bridges.espNRB4+CastleWestWeald Patch.espPTMudwater.espHeartOftheDead.espHentaiMania2.espHentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.espWest Roads.espBravilSeaDomes.espbartholm.espMillstone_Farm_COBL.espAutoBookPlacer.espBonds Big Portable Tent.espDS Storage Sacks.espVisual Health Indication, Cobl.espKosai's Welkynd Armor.espP1DkeyChain.espPPPickUpBook.espsixy Dark Seducer & Golden Saint Armour.espVtoy.espsix Shop.espScriptIcon_Replacer.espEnhanced Vegetation [150%].espStorms & Sound - Imperial Furniture Renovated.espDA Sprint.espRealisticForceMedium.espEnchantmentMastery.espKT_DetectHostility.espRemote Life Detect.espSetBody.espSupremeMagicka.espSM_ShiveringIsles.espSM_DLCSpellTome.espSM_COBL.espSM_EnchantStaff.espSM_UnlockSpells.espSM_Scrolls.espSM_SigilStone.espMidasSpells.espFearsomeMagicka.espEnchantmentRestore.espEnchantmentRestore_Wells.espStealthOverhaul.espRenGuardOverhaul.espRanokoas Undercover Overhaul TRN compatible.espTRN One of the Gang.espWR OotG Addon.espSaveSkillTrainingForLater.espMayu's Animation Overhaul.espCTAddPose_ bondage_six.espCTAddPose_bondage_six-2.espChain it!.espzzEstrus.espAnimation - Growlfs Body Resizing Mod.espSP1stPLegs.espAos Si.espMUIA.espDemonRace.espTabaxi Race 2.0.espElves Of Lineage II.espLattamerV3_P-rrtyCure_Hair_Module.espDesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.espDKImperials.espChocolate Elves.espWolven Anthros.espRaven Elves.espAncient Elven Sorceress - EV.espX.Races.Comp.espCM Partners.espCM Partners Special NPCs.espCM Partners NPC.espCM Partners More NPCs.espCM Partners Marker NPCs.espCM Partners Extra NPCs.esp1em_Vilja.esp1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.espCobl Races.espCobl Races - Balanced.espNoMerchantBarterpvssyr.espMiniMap.espHM2SummonCompatible.espCobl Silent Equip Misc.espBashed Patch, 0.espLycanRace.espTales from Elsweyr.espDark Raven Elves.espcm_Housecats.espKitsuneWildFoxes.espJCN_AV Uncap.espDHs Faster Skills  X10.espSummon Fairy_v0.91xDS.espTiefling Races.espImaItemBase.espIma NoPain.espIma Pain.espVipCxj_HighHeels.espAL_Crusader.espDizzy.esptdaArmorysixy.espDungeon Poses 1.1.espAspiria_EV.espUChainBeast.espTrokturian Cow.espCompanionTracker.espCM Partner Destara.espSbturm_Penthouse.espSbtP_ad cobl.espStar's Rest - AN Patch.espMergan Patchan.espMergedMaps.esp

The "Mergan patchan" file contains just various armours and weapons mods I merged together, disabling it changed nothing.

My debug file:

Spoiler

2010-12-10 - RGODebugFile - RGO Version: 2.53 110.551RenCrimeConfigTextEnglishScript: User pressed spacebar. msgbox = 8, msgbox2 = -1 110.551RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (00016413) is now following the player. 134.81RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (00016413) is now a guard... 134.81RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (00016413) is no longer following the player. 136.276RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (00016413) is now following the player. 140.146RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (00016413) is now a guard... 140.146RenCrimeGuardRingScript: Guard (00016413) is no longer following the player. 141.941

It should be noted that I had to create the RGODebug folder by hand, as, otherwise, it wouldn't create the log file.

As for Obse plugins, I'm using:

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AV Uncapper v1_beta1Menuque v6Elys- Universal Silent Voice v93OBGEv2 patched versionPluggy Dev v132Ref StuffweOCPS_2009_03_28 upd

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Raziel-chan

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:08 pm

Si it normal that every guard, whether be in the city or the ones patrolling the roads follow me around everywhere if I have my weapon drawn ? I't's quite annoying to have a guard follow me in a dungeon.

Yes, but they shouldn't be following you into a dungeon. I'll add in a check to make sure that that behavior only occurs inside the cities.

I have a problem with this mod, it seems. I would be happy with how it works by default, but it conflicts with supreme magicka, creating red magic effects and sounds around everyone.

Now, I know about the option to change the visual effect for the mod, but it simply isn't working. Actually, nothing I change in the configuration menu or the txt file seems to work. Even if I choose to disable the mod in-game, it first says nothing, then, after some time, after I've visited the menu again, it says that the mod has stopped... But it keeps working, guards follow me if I sneak/draw my weapon, the red mist effect keeps appearing.

Switching to loading from the ini file doesn't seem to work either, it changes nothing. It doesn't help that nowhere is it mentioned which spell compatibility value corresponds to which visual effect.

The menu sometimes also loops, but I can turn it off by pressing space before selecting an option, then.

Ok, first of all: The INI file is an advanced feature - maybe next release I'll add in some documentation. It looks to me that your load order is all sorts of messed up - try running BOSS.

My advice for everything else (except for the red clouds, there is nothing I can do about that, honestly): try clean-saving the mod (instructions are in the ReadMe).

The red cloud issue is just something that I can't fix because it is entirely out of my control - lots of magic mods will modify the so-called "no effect" magic effects (darkness, lock, Bound Armor Extra 1-10, etc) to add in their own visual effects. I can't do anything about it if people run mods that modify all the "no effect" magic effects to use visuals.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:00 pm

I also encountered a problem with this mod. All was fine for about a week, and then it started giving me CTD's. I would get a CTD after about 4-5 seconds after loading a save game. It's weird because I never had an issue with it. I went to Bruma and started getting crashes.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:07 pm

I also encountered a problem with this mod. All was fine for about a week, and then it started giving me CTD's. I would get a CTD after about 4-5 seconds after loading a save game. It's weird because I never had an issue with it. I went to Bruma and started getting crashes.

This mod does not cause CTDs on its lonesome. If it did, why don't I get CTDs every 4-5 seconds when playing / playtesting?