I would say after this conservation that till now frostbite 2 has proved itself to be better than cryengine 3 by Battlefield 3. But maybe in the future crytek would focuse on making the next crysis on pc with cryengine 3 and produce better graphics than crysis 1 . Then we can say that cryengine 3 is better . But if we talk about today frostbite 2 is better. This is a comparison in what has been achieved and not what has to be achieved.

SO CURRENTLY FROSTBITE 2 IS BETTER BUT IN THE FUTURE CRYENGINE 3 MAY PROVE ITSELF TO BE A BETTER ENGINE
I can understand that you don't translate from english so well, so I'll put it in terms that you'll understand so you can actually respond to what I'm saying instead of just saying your opinion over and over again.

"Frostbite 2 is better than Cryengine 3" is a statement based on your individual opinion. Your opinion is grounded in 1 thing, how the game looks to you. You have no facts that compare "performance, optimization, scalability, ease of deployment, toolchain and editors available, mod support and last but not least, licenses, fees and terms of use" (BeardedMosquito's complete list of important traits in an engine).

You cannot take your opinion and create a fact out of it. Your only comparison tool was a video, which didn't even have Crysis 2/CE3 in it, and it wasn't even mentioned. That is not a good enough to prove your argument.

I am not comparing BF3 or C2, my argument is that you cannot make an argument based on looks alone, which is exactly what you're doing so far.

Respond to this in a logical way to whatever capacity you have, and stop caps lockin' your way to victory, cause it's just making you look more ignorant.

Harley Quinn - Arkham City First Look dx11 Extreme [HD]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoyUtZpNqs

Recorded with AfterBurner using Full Frame 95% Quality, Detail level @ Extreme

Last one from me folks, this makes it three AC vids up now.
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I would say after this conservation that till now frostbite 2 has proved itself to be better than cryengine 3 by Battlefield 3. But maybe in the future crytek would focuse on making the next crysis on pc with cryengine 3 and produce better graphics than crysis 1 . Then we can say that cryengine 3 is better . But if we talk about today frostbite 2 is better. This is a comparison in what has been achieved and not what has to be achieved.

SO CURRENTLY FROSTBITE 2 IS BETTER BUT IN THE FUTURE CRYENGINE 3 MAY PROVE ITSELF TO BE A BETTER ENGINE
I can understand that you don't translate from english so well, so I'll put it in terms that you'll understand so you can actually respond to what I'm saying instead of just saying your opinion over and over again.

"Frostbite 2 is better than Cryengine 3" is a statement based on your individual opinion. Your opinion is grounded in 1 thing, how the game looks to you. You have no facts that compare "performance, optimization, scalability, ease of deployment, toolchain and editors available, mod support and last but not least, licenses, fees and terms of use" (BeardedMosquito's complete list of important traits in an engine).

You cannot take your opinion and create a fact out of it. Your only comparison tool was a video, which didn't even have Crysis 2/CE3 in it, and it wasn't even mentioned. That is not a good enough to prove your argument.

I am not comparing BF3 or C2, my argument is that you cannot make an argument based on looks alone, which is exactly what you're doing so far.

Respond to this in a logical way to whatever capacity you have, and stop caps lockin' your way to victory, cause it's just making you look more ignorant.

Omg, thank you.
Thats just what i was saying in my last post.
But the guy who made this post is too thick to see fit.

I have both crysis 1 and 2, AND BF3, and the campaign graphics on BF3 are ever so slightly better than crysis 2's at least. But i'm playing all of them on my ps3, where none of the engines are being used at their best, so i guess i can't really say anything.
BTW, crysis 2 multiplayer graphics are better than BF3, but that's because BF3's maps are huge, and destructible, And vehicles take up alot of bandwith on console.

lol. by anyone, i mean people who played BOTH these games. I don't think your grampa will understand lmao.

on pc?1 probable, but i REALLY don't think batman AC on PC maxed out beats the latter in the same maxed out conditions

fo sure! the water looks quite bad, especially on multiplayer.

on pc?1 probable, but i REALLY don't think batman AC on PC maxed out beats the latter in the same maxed out conditions
Batman is the most demanding of the 3, it's the most lovely to look at too and because of the open world it beats C2 in art direction cause C2 has some operation corridor, not much though.

Hmm, well i think i was comparing games in-game graphics, the sortof "cinematics" graphics are better on crysis 2, but then again i play both on ps3 so...invalid aruement 4 me! Honestly i'm just sitting on my chair, feeling so very very conflicted right now. I love both games, and their graphics! how's that for a peaceful solution, everyone say that now!

YEAH! your so right! and by "in the future" we only have to wait 'till Warface comes out! Think about! it's a PC exclusive, using cryengine 3, so it'll be making the most of the engine! We all know PC has the best graphics, so crytek are making warfare pc exclusive, that mean that they don't have any reason to hold back the graphics of the engine on the PC!

Damn, you're actually right. The coding makes the engine, not the engine aesthetic appearence, well i guess everyone can shut up now;)

yeah, you can't compare engines, the only thing you can do, and what everyone IS doing right now, is comparing the GAMES graphics. Frostbite 2 is still brand new, and only has one game to feature its' engine. Wait a while then you can compare the GAMES graphics.

Damn, you're actually right. The coding makes the engine, not the engine aesthetic appearence, well i guess everyone can shut up now;)
The art direction needs to be applied, if the engine is frumpy it ain't gonna happen, luckily the CryEngine3 ain't frumpy.
We obviously know the answer to the OPs question but lets keep evolving and tell me how the next Metro game is gonna look and the release date i forgot.

Art direction is just your opinion, and i'm getting arkham city for xmas! but on my ps3, 'cause no one plays a BATMAN game for graphics, at least i don't.

Well ART direction needs to applied to anything and everything! How else to u design game levels before MAKING them in the game.

Well ART direction needs to applied to anything and everything! How else to u design game levels before MAKING them in the game.
It ain't possible to paint a Leonardo De Vinci with crayons, if you get my meaning.
If you drive a three wheeler bubble car, you ain't gonna plan for a day at the races, if a decent game takes a decade to make on a certain engine cause it's a slow cow don't matter how good it looks the content will be dated.

I wonder could Crytek make BF3 with Cryengine 3.... And could Dice make Crysis 2 with Frostbite 2?

Honestly I think Crytek would have the easier job? No?
And which version of each game would be better optimised?

Said it once and I'll say it again, XRay engine is superior to every other engine

Said it once and I'll say it again, XRay engine is superior to every other engine

Cryengine 3 is better than XRay engine

YEAH! your so right! and by "in the future" we only have to wait 'till Warface comes out! Think about! it's a PC exclusive, using cryengine 3, so it'll be making the most of the engine! We all know PC has the best graphics, so crytek are making warfare pc exclusive, that mean that they don't have any reason to hold back the graphics of the engine on the PC!


This person gets the meaning of what i meant to say. Have any one of you played crysis 2 it says in the starting ACHEIVED WITH CRYENGINE 3. Thats what i am trying to say. Only talk about what has been achieved and not what has to be achieved. Maybe cryengine 3 would be better than frostbite 2 when we come to the true potential but simply that hasnt been proved yet. The true potential of either of the two engines has been achieved yet. Currently things that have been achieved with frostbite 2 are far superior to thing which have been achieved by cryengine 3 in most of the terms. Thats because DICE focused on making a PC game and porting it to consoles. Crytek didnt thought like that. When it releases its next PC exclusive then maybe they would try to make the best out of cryengine 3 and beat frostbite 2 in all terms and emerge out to be THE WORLD'S BEST ENGINE. But currently that hasnt been proved.

CatWoman Arkham City Extreme Pie Dx11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPe9F2yRC4w

One of the First levels of the Beautiful Batman AC, IMO Best Art Design 2011, lovely effects in this game like streamers trailing off batarang black & red in later levels.
Detail @ Extreme.

are you here to advertise about Batman Arkham city. This is not a forum to advertise to things but compare engines. Most of your posts are trying to show batman arkham city better than crysis 2 and battlefield 3. But i know that is not the truth. arkham city city sux according to me.

God, i feel like strangling you right now.
"This is not a forum to advertise to things but compare engines. Most of your posts are trying to show batman arkham city better than crysis 2 and battlefield 3. But i know that is not the truth. arkham city city sux according to me."

Yes according to you.
You didnt need to make this stupid topic, because everything is according to you.


GET IT IN TO YOUR F.U.C.K.I.N.G HEAD.... this is a crysis2 forum, we dont care what you have to say about bf3...
Stop saying that FB2 is better, because for all we know you could be 100% wrong. And then you will say ... "No, im not fb2 is better" In your opinion, yes.

Maybe not in reality.
Bit harsh, but like i said.. i feel like strangling you.

And, FYI if you can talk about battlefield 3 why cant they talk about batman? Thye have every right to say stuff about arkham city, the visuals are fantastic.

Said it once and I'll say it again, XRay engine is superior to every other engine

Cryengine 3 is better than XRay engine
Nahhh, XRay looks the most realistic, even Cryengine doesn't look as authentic. Except maybe the foliage, which is terrible in Xray

Catwoman AC Special Takedown DX11 1080
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yldeat8aw0

Extreme detail applied, PhysX @ High, recorded @ 55fps using 95% quality.
Difficulty - Hard

I like how many other companies are using the Cryengine 3 for their upcoming games, makes me look into to many new games just because they're using the Cryengine