All the Threads since the Q&A was posted made me want to go and watch Twilight and lsiten to MCR. Never a good sign.

Haha ^ ^ in that case I want those 10 septims transfered to UK Pounds!

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Why are you talking about Dragon Age? It is a mediocre game (second is terrible) compared to ES. It has little customization


Oh if their only goal is to make money, then they're doing everything right. That's also known as selling out. But there is more to making a game than simply making money my friend.
I meant for that to be hyperbole, but I'm not so sure it even is anymore. Just look around you

Sorry "dude" but you don't speak for me. I'm pretty sure it is in fact laziness on Beth's part. Their reasoning is 95% flawed (ok, some people with crappy computers will render it better...ok, but big whoop, my computer rocks so I don't care) Bottom line is, did you see any Crusaders wearing full plate jump suits? How about Samurai? Conquistadors? Vikings? Mongols? No? Neither did history. So the fact that Bethesda is creating armored jump suits does indeed smack of laziness to almost everybody, but YOU.

Midsections were a terrible mess in Oblivion (as was the area around the neck), unless you had matching sets. If they get rid of the seams on character models, I'm a happy camper. They only people who lose out here are the ones who wanted topless armor (which from screenshots we've seen so far, are in the game just leather straps on top).

If the armor looks better I'm happy. We're also getting more variety than in any previous TES game, also a bonus. If you really want to mix certain cuirasses and greaves, you can always mod it in yourself...

Edit: The poster above me is a tool.

Really? Jumpsuits? Do you understand the purpose of armor? If the pieces don't match and fit together they don't protect as well. Also calling someone else lazy is funny in your case when you can't pick up a history book or use you're head to realize that a full plate armor would cover you from head to toe. It would be a super jump suit.

I personally liked how hard it was to get a complete set of one type in Daggerfall because shops often had a totally cobbled selection of pieces. Bandits in Morrowind were also nice in that they often only wore one or two pieces of armor, though of course due to the Dark Brotherhood and Ordinators it was stupidly easy to get some durable (and valuable) armor in that game through a single kill as well.

I just hope in Skyrim, with what few armor slots they DO have to work with, they'll try to keep certain things (like Daedric) hard to come by.

This is ridiculous. Bethesda makes a game with overhauled graphics, game play, AI, UI, towns, character customization, relationships, economy, jobs, perks, skills, races, and pretty much anything you could name. AND DRAGONS. And the forums response is to freak out over knee guards. Why arn't their 10 threads for each of the above stated, complimenting the new features? I guess it just shows it's easier to criticize pointless details like knee guards than to praise actual game play mechanics. Just shows COD can make 8 games with little to no game play changes, and Bethesda makes a great game and gets trolled for it. :endrant:

I think you all need to calm down
It really isn't that big of a deal, sure I think it's a mistake. It will be something looked back on as a mistake. But it's not that big of a deal in the scheme of things.

Really? I seem to recall enjoying Origins a lot and remember that every one of my characters looked completely different, there was [censored] loads of loot and equipment that's for sure.

Believe it or not, but an RPG is, in essence about your character, his/her skills and what gear he has. Taking away yet another way to make your gear look personal and unique is a fundamental hit to character development imo.

How is wearing leather greaves with a green tunic dressing like a clown? :confused:

Full armour sets are fine for NPCs, but boring and generic for the player-character. Same goes for clothing outfits. Being able to mix and match gives so much more freedom.

It is anyone's right to make it as big or little a deal to them as they please. It's a fairly big deal to me - the biggest flaw in Skyrim so far.


Well either you and I played a different game or we have differing conceptions of customization

Eh, I have a Septim coin and I guess many others here do too :shrug:

In pounds, one Septim would be worth like 750.00+ Since a Septim is 50 grams and is at least 50% gold.


A brass one.

So you know more about Skyrim than Bethesda?

What I wrote was from Bethesda Devs, the new FAQ.

The only positive thing that I can imagine to come out of this is that the pure Oblivion fans might be let down or disappointed. Of course I don't want this to happen, but if it does, then at least they will know the pain us pre-Oblivion ES fans felt with Oblivion.

Dragon age: 11 slots
Oblivion: 10

You don't consider 50+ different kinds of Armor and apparel and countless different weapons Good Customisation?

In that case you are right, we clearly do have different concepts of customisation.

it's about your character and the world. And the interaction with that world is about more than combat.

DA:O was a phenomenal game, no doubt, however, don't even THINK they had anything close to "customization". They had cloth, leather, medium, heavy and massive, with the only differences between say one massive armor to another, was the color based on the material type. Yes, there were a few uniques and some great mods, but seriously, don't call it "plenty of customization".

It is mathematically impossible to subtract from something and create more of it. Combining the cuirass and greaves takes away customization, it doesn't add to it. We will see if this will bear out on release.

EDIT: And to the poster above talking about 50+...sorry, that's bull. You can't go count all the various armor levels based on the material as an actual choice, because when your character was young, you couldn't get the upper tier stuff, and when your character was high level, using the low tier stuff was ridiculously stupid. So yeah, 50+ is a BS assertion.

No matter what happens I'm there....................... As soon as 11.11.11 hits my social life is taking a drop quicker than the stock markets in greece

And the funny thing: Dragon Age had more armor slots, and it wasn't as good as Oblivion. But how could that be? Armor slots prove a great game! :rolleyes:

If they can indeed deliver on the claim that they can have more styles of armor I would prefer that over having a few types of armor that were more broken up

I also like the notion that they will be able to render more NPC's on the screen at once.

If they can deliver on these promises I'd be happy

@Vultaerus

You're right it wasn't as good as Oblivion: It was better

No fool, skyrim doesn't have full one piece armor sets, they've just merged cuirasses and greaves. There are still separate slots for boots, gauntlets and helmets (possibly even Pauldrons, since we've seen pics of the same cuirass with different pauldrons).

Yes, I agree, but the world is experienced through your character, so without an enjoyable character, enjoying the world becomes impossible. And Personally I find it very very hard to enjoy a TES game, knowing it could've been so much more, had they not decided to slaughter armor customization


@Dragonforks No, a lot of different armor types does NOT equal customization, it equals alot of different choices with no customization. Customization is to customize, aka to mix and match with different parts.