In oblivion, there were certain items that were there just for looks. They had absolutely no purpose, and many of them you couldn't even have in your inventory. For example, the Duke and Duchess of Mania and Dementia -forgot which was which, sorry ): - you could not obtain their robes. Although there were mods to get it, console players were out of luck. Should Skyrim have everything in the game be 'usable' and have a purpose? Discuss!!! (and yes, I did search for similar topics- and no, I did not find any)

Sure why not as long as the item isn't pink in color.

If its there, and I can see it... Damn it, I best be able to grab it.

one of my peves in rpgs is having to look at super cool clothes on npcs and find out that ill never be able to wear them. so yea the more the merrier

for sure. it gets me so mad when I see a bad ass ged up and can't use it for my character. I understand that for cases like the duke and duchess of mania and the other place weren't actually wearing the out fits but they were part of their model instead, but still, how much effort could it be to make it an equipable out fit.

Have to completely agree, I really wanted Syl's dress too, if it can be worn by a npc, it should be lootable.

exactly, if they're going for realism they should have everything 'real', nothing left out or without a purpose

Yeah, why not?

damn it it always pisses me off when i cant even pick up some random object! :banghead:

box inventory or console friendly list inventory?

I want to carry every rock I see, a table, and a mudcrab corpse in my bag at all times

I have to agree, one thing that I liked when I played Morrowind which I've rarely seen in other RPGs is that if I see a person wearing some nice clothing or armor, I could get it myself, so I was rather annoyed that there were several sets of clothes or armor in Oblivion that could not be acquired by the player at all, things like the Emperor's robe, the palace guards' armor, and the Mythic Dawn armor (The last one is sort of justified because it's summoned armor, but still, it's annoying that Bethesda went out of their way to design such a unique armor for the enemies but made it impossible for the player to get it.) So definitely no clothing or armor that can't be looted. For clutter that can't be equipped, I understand that Bethesda can't make every single thing in the game world an item that can be picked up, but I've always liked that the Elder Scrolls let's the player pick up a lot of items that the player has no use for, where in other RPGs, they'd probably just be static environment objects, so this trend should definitely continue in Skyrim, I'd like as many clutter items to be ones the player can pick up as possible, within reason, anyway, I don't expect to be able to steal someone's bed when breaking into the house.

And I want a Rock-It launcher to launch mudcrab corpses out of oh wait...

Yeah I want mudcrabs.

Yeah I was really :flame: that you couldn't get the imperial guard palace armor on consoles. Or Lady Syl's outfit.

Now that you say that, I want to go anywhere too. Like despite the Imperial palace actually having upper floors, we could only get in during Thieves Guild. If I see a door I want to be able to go through it.

I remember when I first played Oblivion, as soon as I saw an imperial guard, my goal in life was to assassinate a guard and steal his glorious armor for myself!

But after several failed assassination attempts, I finally killed a guard, and to my disappointment, I couldn't take it. And, in addition I got called criminal scum and received a nice big fine courtesy of the imperial guard.

(On a related note, that just reminded me of how much I hate the omnipotent guards that somehow know when I commit a crime in the middle of nowhere in a forest...)

im going to agree...

I got sick of being "Over-encumbered" in oblivion so much.

Yes to your example, no to that overall. Like in the intro, it would be crappy is you could get the blades armor, weapons, and shield right away. Plus, it never made sense to me if you were running for your life from assassins how you'd have time to strip a corpse completely out of their armor and put it on. Or how you could totally change your own armor during combat (but that's a different issue altogether).

What if they made checking your inventory or a corpses inventory a real-time event. So you could try to grab the stuff from them while you are being attack, but it would be rather difficult to do it if you are being sliced by swords and axes.

Yes. I was so mad when I first saw those palace guard uniforms and noticed I couldn't loot them after all the trouble I went through to murder one . Luckily for me I play on the PC and modding them in was as easy as clicking a checkmark on a box in the CS.

Well,with the armor-I think it should be available at some point, but not necessarily the first time you see it.
As far as beds and stuff go- you guys knew what I meant (although i can't blame you. You cant pass up a good sarcasm moment.) I think all items and clothing should be available, not 'everything'

Nah,

I don't want no stinking loincloth!

Erm..are you including all objects? The definitly not! Just way to many thing for the computer to keep track of

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Yes, If i see a rock on the ground, I would like to pick it up.