Just to make Skyrim seem even cooler than it was before i figured a few of you may enjoy this factoid (not elder scrolls lore... real lore);

Hrothgar is an Old English name, most famous for being the name of the king in the tale of Beowulf. However the name itself is a combination of the old English words 'Hroth' and 'Gar' which translate to 'Glory' and 'Spear'.

So the mountain's name (High Hrothgar) literally translates to High Spear of Glory. More than anything for me remembering this factoid has set the tone for skyrim better than anything I've read yet. Hope it works for you guys too.

Edit: Also bearing this in mind have we heard anything about spears making a possible come back in Skyrim yet?

Still, I have a feeling we ain't getting any spears! :swear:

Not to mention the fact that it is the highest point on Tamriel... Kind of thrusting it's way into the sky so to speak.

its the highest mountain in Tamriel the volcano in Morrowind beats it

So the volcanoe is the glory cannon?

Is it so high that its top disappears into the sky? Hrothgar does. I can still see the summit of Red Mountain.

Unless its mythical altitude gets retconned away like the jungles of Cyrodiil... :unsure:

From the lore we've read up to TES4, Hrothgar = Tamriel's Mt. Everest.

I believe Red Mountain is officially supposed to be the highest peak in Tamriel...just the game engine didn't support that kind of epicness.

Red Mountain isn't the highest peak. Vvardenfell is the highest peak. Because Vvardenfell is the volcano. Red Mountain is the name of the central portion which the island surrounds.

Throat of the World is the second highest peak in Tamriel (quite possibly highest- we don't know if Red Mountain blew it's top when it went boom two hundred years ago (wow, that's a shock to think that Morrowind, Oblivion were 200 years previous.))

,WHO IN OBLIVION DO YOU THINK I AM?I HIGHHROTHGAR!!! MINE IS A DRILL THAT WILL PEIRCE THE HEAVENS or something along those lines

7.000 steps to reach the top, several Badness Old men/maybe Dragons sit at the top to train you in the way of Nordic Pwn Voice.

So the king from Beowulf has a glorious spear? Think innuendo from "The Lusty Argonian Maid" book. Sorry, I couldn't help myself

So Vvardenfell is the highest peak from sea level to summit? That's the measurement I'm going by.

And by lore, Hrothgar's peak is so high that it disappears (or somesuch) into the sky.

Red Mountain beats HH in the height department. Here's what it says in the first pocket guide in the Skyrim section.


You can read it http://www.imperial-library.info/content/pocket-guide-empire-first-edition-skyrim

I just hope its not a spear in the way of the 36 Sermons of Vivec. :bonk:

Actually, you can't see the summit of Red Mountain from its base... unless you are using a mod.

Officially Vvardenfell, and it would NOT be incorrect to refer to the volcano as Red Mountain, was the highest peak in Tamriel at the time of TES IV.

Thats nit-picking in the wrong direction. Vvardenfell = Island. Red mountain = volcano.

Even if the Island is the result of volcanic activity you can't argue the whole Island is "a volcano" Also the territory itself is named Vvardenfell including outlaying islands.

A strike to Vivec way down on the south of the island from the Ministry of Truth was enough to cause the entire island to explode. That strikes me as the entire island being part of the volcano.

Either way, it's nitpicking. Vvardenfell/Red Mountain was (and may still be) the highest point in Tamriel.

Also, the entire region is considered "Vvardenfell District", which is the same way as calling suburbs of a city part of that city's area, even though they're not a part of the city itself.

Yes, but what you implied was wrong. No matter what way you want to spin it, the volcano or the central part of the island, however you want to say it, is Red Mountain. That is where the highest peak is suppose to be. So saying that Red Mountain is the highest peak is in no way wrong, not even in a nitpicky kind of way. :thumbsup:

Well, if that is the case, is Vvardenfell still there? It may be greatly diminished by this. Or it may have gotten bigger with a new eruption. :shrug:

It's a land of ash as far as anyone can tell, as we only know about Vivec. Even 40ish years after Red Mountain blew its top, there is still lots and lots of ash on that island. But enough about Vvardenfell, lets get back to HH.

High Hrothgar is actually a tower, like White-Gold Tower, Red Tower (Red Mountain), Crystal Tower, etc.

Vardenfell is there, but its certainly uninhabited and its not clear what remains of the volcano itself. Its entirely possible that it is no longer the highest peak. I think, considering that High Hrothgar is the second highest, that we will have an answer to that in-game, since the topic will almost certainly come up. If Red Mountain is no longer the highest, the NPCs and literature will let us know that High Hrothgar now is, but if Red Mountain is still the highest, all the lore will remain the same.

Makes you wonder what its Stone is, and who its current controller is.

Walk-Brass (Numidium) had the Mantella, Red Mountain had the Heart of Lorkhan, White-Gold had the Amulet of Kings... what's Hrothgar's? Anything in the lore on it?

Interesting. Does anyone know what became of the Ashlanders? Can't see them very willingly leaving Vvardenfell, even in the face of destruction.

I bet it's snow

damn you, I wanna watch beowulf now, that movie is awesome. damn.

It would be awesome to have the mountain so big it looks like the landscape just curves up into the sky! That's probably too big though.