I wish you luck!

Just fired this puppy up. Man, that's a loong chain of message menus - kudos Kai! Love the settings.

Me too I made a text file of my non-conflicting load order and the mods am using with FWE so whenever i experiment and things dont go right i always use it to set things right again without having to second guess. It sure does get blurry at times switching back and forth between FOMM and the list though. Thank goodness i dont get headaches from flashing screens :wacko:

Well FO-3 is wipped, my saves backed up.

almost every mod is ready to install, FWE 5.0 I still D/L though.(40 mins left!!)

Need to reinstall FO-3 now.

I am in the middle on Project bueaty, and EVE.

Eve is just a large file, and thats why I passed on it, but I may get it tonight.

P.B on the other hand scares me, it says I need the GECK, and I hate fooling with it, it looks very complacted to install.

Thanks for the reply. You might want to have the following line removed from the front page description then:

As far as I know you only need the GECK if you want to change the hairs on the NPC's to something else. Then again I've been wrong before

I just grabbed this over the weekend and like Janbonde said the GECK part is if you want to make some custom hair yourself, I didn't bother. The distinctive red hair was the only way I recognized the new woman in Craterside Supply was Moira.

EVE is pretty cool, I read about it and it didn't sound like something I would even use. But I got it on a whim right after Project Beauty and I'm glad I did.

will I got it all, P.B is the only thing left D/Ling 35 mins left.

Installing FO-3 atm, then Patch, then DLC.

then Ill start to install mods, there is only a few I have to do by hand (I prefer them installed that way) like type 3 and its parts and the hair and eyes packs.

May the Wonderer's spirit guide you in properly installing the mod/s Titan!

I have some issues with 5_01 release:

- using the (non-HD) Project beauty plugins with (non)-HD Project beauty esp (only of course) installed,
i have missing meshes (that big red triangle) even in rooms where there are no
people around. Its on people too though, but than not all of them.
I sticked to the recommended loadorder. I use the lates PB. Since FOIP does not provide textures/meshes
on its own, i believe in a bad reference within the esp. I do Archiveinvalidations of course!

Unchecking the patches, the problem is gone.

- I just levelled two times in a row taking the scrounger perk. Haven't rechecked this, but wanted to report it anyway.

- Also i feel like my VATS Chance fluctuates. I have a 36 in Small Guns, but had a 95% hitting chance, no matter the distance.
A bit later i was back to my normal chances.

Strange huH?

Forget my levelup problem above.
I still had the LVL 30 balance mod active.
Dumb me :banghead::P

-about VATS- the same for me, need to be researched
-About PB- don't have such issues
Let's compare our load orders

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmFallsChurchMetroFix.esmCMF-Zeta.esmCALIBR.esmCRAFT.esmFNNCQ.esmArefuExpandedByAzar.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmLingsFinerThings.esmHairPack.esmAmyWong.esmStreetLights.esmCubeExperimental (EN).esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espEcho_BatteryCharger.espDLM_solarchargerzeta.espVaultTechLocators.espCaravan Tracking.espMole Rat Maze.espTreasure Maps_A Fist Full of Caps.espTreasure Maps_Secrets of the Wasteland.espTreasure Maps_Underground.espD.C. Confidential with Glow.espNotSoFast.espHeirApparent.espIntoTheDeepWoods.espPLweightadjust.espMegatonContracts.espNuka Cola Refill Stations.espQuantumPipeV2.espRivet City Underworks 1.1.espBoSPatrols.espShadySands.espReturn to Shady Sands - FWE weapons rebalance.espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.espR.A.C.E. Station.espExistence2.0.espCONELRAD 640-1240.espStripClub.espTailor Maid.espTailor Maid Black Retex.espTailor Maid Anchorage.espTailor Maid PITT.espTailor Maid Brokensteel.espTailor Maid ZETA.espLingsFinerThings.espbittercup_comp.espBriannaCompanion.espMalikaTheGypsyByAzar.espslaveraider.espAmyWongQ1.espAmyWong - DLC01 Anchorage.espAmyWong - DLC02 The Pitt.espAmyWong - DLC03 Broken Steel.espAmyWong - DLC04 Pt.Lookout.espAmyWong - DLC05 Zeta.espKelseyCompanion.espJessiCompanion.espMeresti Metro Station Entrance.espTenpenny Suite [Engl].espBroadway_cinema.espCEI - CaesarrulezExcessiveInteriorsEN.espYevicsUrbanTownhome.esphouseexpansion.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espMoreMapMarkers.espSniperZooming.espCentered 3P Cam_new.espLongerDeathCamera.espSkillCheck.espCASM.espF3UmpaAnimation.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espWastelandMastery.espProject Beauty.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.espDelayAnchorage.espDelayThePitt.espDelaySteel.espdelaypl.espdelayzeta.espPreWar Book Titles and Perks.espRobCo Certified.espWasteland Whisperer.espXFO_Pacing_Extra_Levels.espMaxLevelWorkaround.espDarNifiedUIF3.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.espPhalanx-MainFollowerModule.espPhalanx-BrokenSteel-Integration.espFreePumpkin-perk.espFellout-Full.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Zeta.espmegalight.espStreetLights - Wasteland.esp1.espTotal active plugins: 163Total plugins: 163

I'm pretty sure something is up with Vats as I seem to be able to hit far too good with my very low Small Guns skills. From very far away trying to shoot a raider with a 10mm submachine gun, 18 in the skill, 5 in perception I get a hit chance in the torse of 70%. Clearly that can't be right. What's the point of increasing the skill then if I already hit everything with a rather crappy long distance weapon? Anyone else getting this besides Olafreinhardweyer and me? I can upload a screenshot to show just how long the distance is if needed.

EDIT: Seems Delamer got the same thing. Then we just need to figure out whether it's FWE or a conflict with the other mods we're loading.

Here's my loadorder as well if needed.

[X] Fallout3.esm[X] Anchorage.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] Project Beauty HD version.esm[X] Destruction.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm[X] CubeExperimental (EN).esm[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp[X] Fellout-pipboylight.esp[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp[X] ShadySands.esp[X] Treasure Maps_Secrets of the Wasteland.esp[X] Treasure Maps_A Fist Full of Caps.esp[X] Destruction - Main.esp[X] Destruction - Main - Statics.esp[X] Destruction - DLC.esp[X] Destruction - DLC - Statics.esp[X] Mole Rat Maze.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] Return to Shady Sands - FWE weapons rebalance.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp[X] Refurbish [TP].esp[X] Refurbish [BS].esp[X] Refurbish [PL].esp[X] Refurbish [MZ].esp[X] Refurbish [OA].esp[X] Refurbish [OA] - FWE.esp[X] WeaponModKits.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp[X] WMKAA12Shotgun.esp[X] EVE.esp[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp[X] Zumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.esp[X] Wasteland Whisperer.esp[X] RobCo Certified.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp[X] MMM_RtSS_Mod.esp[X] PB MMM HD.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp[X] Fellout-Full.esp[X] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp[X] Fellout-PointLookout.esp[X] Fellout-Zeta.esp[X] Destruction - CP - Fellout.esp[X] RZW_RadioStutterFix.esp[X] ImmersiveHealth.esp[X] Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

Yes EVE is amazing in a horrific gotta watch way Nothing like seeing a raider sizzled into steaming hot charred coaled flesh in mid air as they're jumping down the stairs then break apart in a smouldering heap as they hit the ground

Just a word of warning though sometimes perhaps due to some sort of mesh texture and collision FALLOUT 3 freezes on me when using EVE. This has happened in the past too but not all the time. Might be due to new updates bringing the problem back. Right now am leaving EVE uninstalled and have yet to freeze or have slight pauses along hillish roads. Could have been the last FOIP patch update the other day since i didnt have this problem with the previous version with EVE-FWE-MMM etc.

Yes i seem to be too much of a good shot aswell with a lazer pistol when just starting out as a regulator and taking out the nearby raider base across from the Regulators headquarters. Hunting rifles in poor condition hit great from super far distances but totally stink in close range combat which makes sense but perhaps the great long range fire may need some tweaking. Here is my load order:


Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
KBATRadio.esp
Level 1 Smallest More Color.esp
CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Total active plugins: 28
Total plugins: 28

can you FOMM Project beauty and have no issues?

I am installing right now.

Here is what I have done.

remove fallout 3, delete folder

Install fallout 3
Install DLC
Install patch

Install FOSE
Install FOMM
Install all mods with FOMM besides type 3 body and hair/eyes.
Left Eve out.

Not tried loading yet, not all the way done prepping the game and my PC.

You can turn Project Beauty on with FOMM but i dont think you can install it like FWE unless its already a FOMOD or has the scripts to be made and installed as one which i believe FOMM can do.

Dont forget to use ArchiveInvalidation Invalidated so all the buetiful art work shows up

Any archive can be installed with help of FOMM PManager. If this archive contain DATA folder in the root (or data subfolders)- this archive is FOMOD compatible

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmProject Beauty HD version.esmFallsChurchMetroFix.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmAmmo Bench.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmStreetLights.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmFireLightFix.espGeneratorSound.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espDarNifiedUIF3.espStreetLights - Wasteland.espFellout-pipboylight.espCASM.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espGalaxyNewsRadio20[M].espGNR BS 1_1.espExistence2.0.espCONELRAD 640-1240.espPreWar Book Titles and Perks.espAmmo Bench - Alien Power Cell.espAmmo Bench - CRAFT Plugin.espAmmo Bench - CALIBR.espAmmo Bench - Toolkit Retex.espBlackWolf Backpack.esp1Animated Nightvision goggles.espD.C. Confidential.espMoreMapMarkers.espTrophies - Megaton.espRivet City Realignment.espshopping-spree.espa cuppa JOE.espFairfaxApartment.espWIP_BigTown.espYevicsUrbanTownhome.espBroadway_cinema.espPrincess Big Blue House.espCanterburyCommonsInteriors.espCantaburyCommonsGuards.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espRefurbish [OA] - FWE.espRefurbish [TP].espRefurbish [BS].espRefurbish [PL].espRefurbish [MZ].espSelfSurgeryKit.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWinterizedT51bDX.espOutcast DX.espTribal_DX.espDragonskin Tactical Outfit.espDragonskinBonusPack.espjmschematics - CRAFT.espEVE.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espWasteland Whisperer.espRobCo Certified.espVDSC.espVDSP-01.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.espT3T_MiscItemIcons.espArwen_VisionFX.espArwen_XPR.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Rainbows.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espFellout-Full.espFellout-Anchorage.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Zeta.espmegalight.espMez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.espTotal active plugins: 111Total plugins: 117

That's mine if it helps.

shew almost done, I need help, but I am in the final leg

so, Uninstall FO-3
wipe folder
install FO-3
DLC
Patch

FOSE
FOMM
All mods but a few done by FOMM (project bueaty installed with FOMM) I installed eyes and hair by hand, and the body.

CCcleaner, defrag and opt. (autologics defrag)

Load order, I know its not right, but I started going cross eyed trying to figure it out

code tag didnt work like I wanted.

Edit, went over it again. Still not right though, IMO.

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmStreetLights.esmHairPack.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmProject Beauty HD version.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmRealistic Interior Lighting.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espDarNifiedUIF3.espCASM.espOwned!.espFairfaxApartment.espBigtownJunkHouse.espYevic's Personal Vault.espExistence2.0.espDN_RecyclingMachine.espStreetLights - Wasteland.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espCALIBRxMerchant.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 High Skills.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).espRobCo Certified.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.espXepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espRaider preset beta.esphair_add_npc.espSniperZooming.espmika.espmika_essential.espBittercup_Restyled.espJHBCloverPlus.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.espRefugee Clothing.espCombatDuster.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espSomePoses.espMannequin.espK2Clothes_BrownLeather03.espK2Clothes_TartanMinis04.espDIM CUSTOM PRESETS V1.3WEB.espChoose your own hairstyle (load this last on FOMM).espTotal active plugins: 78Total plugins: 110

Just gonna do a complete wipe again tomorrow and leave Project Bueaty out, as well as mika and the type three outfit convrsions.

I know its not a few problem, sorry.

Hopefully I can get it working again, too many things installed at once to pinpoint the problem.

titan357 do you get the mismatched colors ingame or just during character creation? I get a hand which is a dark tanned brown compared to my chosen paler white skin tone on the body in the Alternate Start shack. After i create my character and enter the game world i save, exit and reload once am back in the game and not the character creation area all the colors are correct.

Yea reinstalling while looking forward to the fun end result is the best way to keep ones mood cheery

Accuracy doesn't seem to be effected by the the condition of the weapon outside of VATs either. My character seems way to accurate to have only a 41 skill in small guns with a hunting rifle that has been repaired to only about 25%. I don't see the sway or spread like i did in FWE 4.1.1

So finally got this darn thing stable again.

Yes for leveling being off I had to regain exp to get the meter working right. Had to ditch a few town mods and Stutter Remover - just wasn't cooperating. A few load order tweaks. Although what am I to make of the town mods working with version 4.11 but not 5,01? Ah well as usual the overhaul wins.

So then With the current game I go pick up dogmeat and have not played with him since an earlier version. I recal him being pretty tough.

Now, he is really really weak and if I don't tell him to wait all the time he gets killed. A raider with an axe, a raider with a 32 pistol, supermutants - forget it. With the way the revival is set up he is a stimpack sponge. Is there any chance that in the future a menu option can be added to make it so that he does not soak up so many stimpacks?

My character can survive the wasteland each day with no more than 4-5 stimpacks per day (maybe triage twice) by planning encounters and keeping his head down.

Is there a way to craft stimpacks?

A good rule of thumb is to only install one mod at a time (or a mod combination, like FWE/MMM/WMK).


Not in FWE I don't think.