[RelZ] FWE - FO3 Wanderers Edition #42 : Fallout 3

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:21 pm

When making some changes to the esm i found that Fo3edit encounters an error when trying to save. Is there anyway to fix this?

Well you shouldn't be changing the .esm in the first place, but you can get around those errors by saving to a temporary file (or in your case you should migrate all the changes you've made to some personal patch file for FWE and then replace the master with the original) then copying them back after you reload FO3Edit.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:43 pm

When making some changes to the esm i found that Fo3edit encounters an error when trying to save. Is there anyway to fix this?

Do not make changes in esm. You need to copy what you need into new plugin and make modifications here

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:49 am

Also for the record I'm also having a lot of instability issues recently; though this is kind of meaningless and unhelpful since I don't know if its FWE or what. Started a new game with FWE 6.0 MMM 6.0 and RobCo Certified (w/e latest is) but if I had to guess I'd say my issues are with RobCo Certified since it's the only stuff I can replicate it with.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:18 am

Another question - MMM 6.0 now has it's own configuration menu. However, FWE 5.x had a configuration menu of its own for many MMM features. Is that still there within FWE and does it play well with the MMM configuration menu? Or how does it work? Again, thanks.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:48 am

Another question - MMM 6.0 now has it's own configuration menu. However, FWE 5.x had a configuration menu of its own for many MMM features. Is that still there within FWE and does it play well with the MMM configuration menu? Or how does it work? Again, thanks.

MMM config was remowed from FWE control panel. MMM have it's own config now.
You will have no problems here

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:18 am

Do not make changes in esm. You need to copy what you need into new plugin and make modifications here

Time to pull out the Fo3edit manual.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:47 am

MMM config was remowed from FWE control panel. MMM have it's own config now.
You will have no problems here

Cool, thanks, you guys think of everything :thumbsup:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:12 am

Downloading new FWE now :celebration:

A quick question: Is the winterized power armor now properly recognized to be fitted? In FWE 5.04 I could wear it without fitting (and didn't have an option to fit it at the workbench)

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:35 am

Downloading new FWE now :celebration:

A quick question: Is the winterized power armor now properly recognized to be fitted? In FWE 5.04 I could wear it without fitting (and didn't have an option to fit it at the workbench)

Some types of PA fitted by default- this is intentional and T51B - one of such armors.
Fitting was implemented mostly to prevent too easy life for killers of previous PA owner, you must adjust armor for yourself first. But some types of armor don't have owners, and given you as a reward for quest. There is no need in additional steps after this

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:52 am

When copying Part I over to my Fallout 3 Data folder I get the following error message:

Cannot copy "wpn_rifleassault_fire_3d". File on directory is corrupted or unreadable.

I redownloaded, thinking perhaps I had a bad download, but in copying Part I over a second time I got the same message. Anyone else seen this?

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:02 pm

Some types of PA fitted by default- this is intentional and T51B - one of such armors.
Fitting was implemented mostly to prevent too easy life for killers of previous PA owner, you must adjust armor for yourself first. But some types of armor don't have owners, and given you as a reward for quest. There is no need in additional steps after this

Didn't know that, great idea

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:05 pm

When copying Part I over to my Fallout 3 Data folder I get the following error message:

Cannot copy "wpn_rifleassault_fire_3d". File on directory is corrupted or unreadable.

I redownloaded, thinking perhaps I had a bad download, but in copying Part I over a second time I got the same message. Anyone else seen this?

No.
1. Be sure you not install fallout in default folder (c:/program Files), if you using Vista or Windows 7. If you have- reinstall the game or disable UAC (user account control)
2. Check downloaded archives for errors, you can do this with 7zip or winrar archivers
As alternative, you can simply extract archives in temporarily folder. If extraction will be without errors- then archives are OK and you have problems with hard drive
3. If 1. and 2. are OK, then you need to check your hard drive for disk errors, and probably- to reinstall fallout fully

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:40 pm

So I've been playing a new game with 6.01, MMM, FOIP, WMK, Project Beauty, EVE and some other mods installed. So far so good...loving the experience except I've noticed something strange. With the Primary Needs mod, I made it so that water/food/etc. will restore HP like in vanilla game. Whenever I take something like drugs, or drink water that restores hp, etc., I noticed I can increase my HP to what seems like an unlimiated amount. for instance, if my haxHP is 180, I can increase it beyond that point. Sorry if this has been reported already...

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:04 am

So I've been playing a new game with 6.01, MMM, FOIP, WMK, Project Beauty, EVE and some other mods installed. So far so good...loving the experience except I've noticed something strange. With the Primary Needs mod, I made it so that water/food/etc. will restore HP like in vanilla game. Whenever I take something like drugs, or drink water that restores hp, etc., I noticed I can increase my HP to what seems like an unlimiated amount. for instance, if my haxHP is 180, I can increase it beyond that point. Sorry if this has been reported already...

This is strange indeed, I will check it shortly.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:17 am

Well I keep scratching my head because i don't recall.

IN vanilla does the Chinese stealth suit provide a visible cloak when you go into sneak? I recall mine doing that a lot prior to updating to 6.01 ... but can't remember if that was mod added or not. I know after the 6.0 version was out I deactivated a handful of mods that it made redundant.

Is this a feature of FWE? Maybe a past feature? Brain not work right - ate to many ghoul parts.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:17 am

Well I keep scratching my head because i don't recall.
IN vanilla does the Chinese stealth suit provide a visible cloak when you go into sneak?

Yes

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:44 am

Also for the record I'm also having a lot of instability issues recently; though this is kind of meaningless and unhelpful since I don't know if its FWE or what. Started a new game with FWE 6.0 MMM 6.0 and RobCo Certified (w/e latest is) but if I had to guess I'd say my issues are with RobCo Certified since it's the only stuff I can replicate it with.

Figured out (at least one) big issue, RKR was the cause of a lot of my problems, soon as I disabled it I stopped crashing constantly with RobCo Certified. So maybe look into that or make some sort of disclaimer about RKR or something (or maybe I'm blind).

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:15 pm

Yes

err - well now it doesn't.

Looked up the form ID http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chinese_Stealth_Armor_(Operation:_Anchorage) and then opened all mods in FO3edit and see the only two mods touching the suit are UFP and FWE. But then it is probably not the suit but the effect that is awry.

Hmmm - well let me try a few things ... I'm not sure how to look up stealth field effect (gosh it isn't like chameleon in oblivion). Under Base Effects I found 00052117 Stealth Field, but nothing overwrites.

need to go in game and test with Stealth Boy then bashed patch versus merged ... etc.

[edit] yeah eating a stealth boy with the suit on it says I already have a stealth field active (not in sneak mod though) then taking the suit off it supposedly gave me another stealth field but again still visible. Testing against enemies that would normally not see me when in stealth field and they could without problem - so it is not working.

[edit 2] even switching from bashed patch to merged patch the same results - no stealth field that is visible with chem or armor and certainly no stealth field effects.

The main updates since the change have been FWE/MMM/FOIP ... so of course that is my first suspect, but I could be wrong.

If no suggestions then tomorrow or soon will start tearing my load order apart ... again. Here is my load order with merged patch even:

Spoiler

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» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:50 am

err - well now it doesn't.

Err- don't forget to customize your suit properly, it is not give you stealth field automatically now, you must choose a way to activate it. Bu default you must use stealthboy key to activate (if I remember correctly)

Scarecrow23

Figured out (at least one) big issue, RKR was the cause of a lot of my problems, soon as I disabled it I stopped crashing constantly with RobCo Certified. So maybe look into that or make some sort of disclaimer about RKR or something (or maybe I'm blind).

It is good you was able to resolve your issues.

From my side I can say- I don't use RobCo and don't have crashes or other issues with RKR.
And before making disclaimers, let's give RobCo author some time to correct compatibility

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:28 pm

Ohh duh - well if it was that way in version 5 I must have totally forgot I set it to work without the use of stealth boys.

carry on

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:26 pm

Ohh duh - well if it was that way in version 5 I must have totally forgot I set it to work without the use of stealth boys.

carry on

no, it was not

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:45 am

Hmm turns out there is a problem.

If I set to activate by hotkey then it will work with the Darn UI interface too, but if I set to activate with sneak - still no field and no interface.

Even if I go in and reset from one activator to another.

Then the menu says common energy cells - does that mean small energy cells? That is what they are called in my inventory.

Nevermind - had to read closer 'hold sneak key' not go into sneak mod alone. Ahhh! Finally got it.

Is there a setting for turning off power consumption and return to vanilla use?
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Now why is the game crashing in megaton at 9 am but not 5 am? I suspect weather - on to the next wrinkle.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:42 am

Let's wait until next patch will be released

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:17 pm

I hope you'll change it so the stealth field defaults to on when first activated. It's easier to remember to turn it off in a non-emergency then to remember to turn it on in an emergency.

I'm still getting some odd crashing, mostly at cell borders I think (when it doesn't crash I can see the landscape being added to and the LOD shifting for distant objects). Perhaps I'll try adding the multi-core tweak back in again...or adjust my LOD/graphic settings and see if that helps.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:48 am

A very minor bug report/request: RKRMode3ControllerTokenScript prints "removing token" to the console regularly. Would it be possible to change it to use DebugPrint instead of PrintToConsole?

I'm still getting some odd crashing, mostly at cell borders I think (when it doesn't crash I can see the landscape being added to and the LOD shifting for distant objects). Perhaps I'll try adding the multi-core tweak back in again...or adjust my LOD/graphic settings and see if that helps.

I'm getting this error as well. And like showler, I just upgraded from MMM5 and FWE5 to MMM6 and FWE6, even though I did clean out MMM5 before installing MMM6. I also get short pauses (maybe a frame or two) at cell borders. Possibly a ref-walk gone wrong?