FWE/MMM/PB/WKM/EVE + mod questions

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:16 am

Hi everyone, quick question.
Yesterday I did a fresh install and put a few mods on, after not been happy with the mods, I decieded to reinstall FO3 and start fresh...

Now the phalanx mod wont work, and I belive that this is intergrated into FWE???

Also for a LO? hows this

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
Project Beauty HD version.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
StreetLights.esm
Ammo Bench.esm
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
RTS.esm
CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
EVE.esp
EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
UPP - Pack 1.esp
UPP - Pack 2.esp
Ammo Bench - Scattered Schematics.esp
Ammo bench - Decreased Output.esp
Ammo Bench - Alien Power Cell.esp
Ammo Bench - Artisan.esp
Ammo Bench - CRAFT Plugin.esp
Ammo Bench - CALIBR.esp
Ammo Bench - Car Mechanic.esp
Ammo Bench - Old Ammo-Benches.esp
Ammo Bench - Toolkit Retex.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp
Fellout-PointLookout.esp
Fellout-Zeta.esp
Fellout-pipboylight.esp
Project Beauty.esp
Raider preset beta.esp
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.esp
PB MMM.esp
PB MMM HD.esp
Echo_UseBothGloves.esp
CrowdedCities_v2.esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp
StreetLights - Wasteland.esp
RTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.esp
RTSpatch_RVW.esp
RR Manifold Holster v16.esp
SS OTS Camera FOSE.esp
Rude Awakening.esp
Rude Awakening - MMM.esp
MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp
MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp
dD-Full Screen Blood.esp
1PipboyPDA.esp

Total active plugins: 118
Total plugins: 122

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Vincent Joe
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:07 pm

For starters you can remove these as they are included in FWE:

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp - needs to load dead last.

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

The UF3P plugins should be the first esps in the load order.

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm - below Zeta.esm (after all DLC's).

Okay, now I got started I'll rearrange the whole lot :huh:

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmRTS.esmStreetLights.esmAmmo Bench.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmProject Beauty HD version.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espDarNifiedUIF3.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.esp1PipboyPDA.espRR Manifold Holster v16.espSS OTS Camera FOSE.espRude Awakening.espRude Awakening - MMM.espMTC Wasteland Travellers.espMTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.espdD-Full Screen Blood.espEcho_UseBothGloves.espCrowdedCities_v2.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espRTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.espRTSpatch_RVW.espStreetLights - Wasteland.espAmmo Bench - CRAFT Plugin.espAmmo Bench - CALIBR.espAmmo Bench - Scattered Schematics.espAmmo bench - Decreased Output.espAmmo Bench - Alien Power Cell.espAmmo Bench - Artisan.espAmmo Bench - Car Mechanic.espAmmo Bench - Old Ammo-Benches.espAmmo Bench - Toolkit Retex.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espFellout-Full.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Zeta.espFellout-pipboylight.espProject Beauty.espRaider preset beta.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.espPB MMM.esp -----------------------------------------------------------> what's that? MMM has PB plugins. It may not be needed.PB MMM HD.esp -----------------------------------------------------------^ ^FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore PointLookout.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.espMez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp


I use many in your list, but not all, so Ammo Bench, for example, I really don't know where that goes. Most others I've based on my own load order, and the overhaul load order guide that's posted in the FWE release thread.
Though, if there are any mods you want to override the overhauls load them after them. I've a few that I have to shove in after WMK for them to work or show up at all. As well as some tweak mods that I want to override what FWE does (that I didn't like).
The couple of esps near the top, I usually arrange my houses, clothing, armor, weapons and other miscellanous bits 'n pieces there. Usually ones that the overhauls don't touch, anyway.

Of course, if other people have suggestions or wish to correct me, go right ahead :hehe: The bigger the load order the harder it is to get 'just right.'
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:14 pm

1) Phalanx is not integrated in FWE. FWE has it's own followers module (Followers Enhanced). If you want to use Phalanx though, you can, but you have to deactivate the Follower's Enhanced module
2) If you want to use Followers Enhanced though, do NOT use FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp and FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp together, you use only one(the Broken Steel variant in this case).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:50 pm

1) Phalanx is not integrated in FWE. FWE has it's own followers module (Followers Enhanced). If you want to use Phalanx though, you can, but you have to deactivate the Follower's Enhanced module
2) If you want to use Followers Enhanced though, do NOT use FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp and FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp together, you use only one(the Broken Steel variant in this case).


Thats strange:/...
In my earlier attempt, It had all the phalanx mod stuff, the guy near Megaton, the camp near megaton... I never downloaded it...
Thanks for the Followers Enhanced Tip though :).

For starters you can remove these as they are included in FWE:

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp - needs to load dead last.

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

The UF3P plugins should be the first esps in the load order.

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm - below Zeta.esm (after all DLC's).

Okay, now I got started I'll rearrange the whole lot :huh:

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmRTS.esmStreetLights.esmAmmo Bench.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmProject Beauty HD version.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espDarNifiedUIF3.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.esp1PipboyPDA.espRR Manifold Holster v16.espSS OTS Camera FOSE.espRude Awakening.espRude Awakening - MMM.espMTC Wasteland Travellers.espMTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.espdD-Full Screen Blood.espEcho_UseBothGloves.espCrowdedCities_v2.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espRTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.espRTSpatch_RVW.espStreetLights - Wasteland.espAmmo Bench - CRAFT Plugin.espAmmo Bench - CALIBR.espAmmo Bench - Scattered Schematics.espAmmo bench - Decreased Output.espAmmo Bench - Alien Power Cell.espAmmo Bench - Artisan.espAmmo Bench - Car Mechanic.espAmmo Bench - Old Ammo-Benches.espAmmo Bench - Toolkit Retex.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espFellout-Full.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Zeta.espFellout-pipboylight.espProject Beauty.espRaider preset beta.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.espPB MMM.esp -----------------------------------------------------------> what's that? MMM has PB plugins. It may not be needed.PB MMM HD.esp -----------------------------------------------------------^ ^FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore PointLookout.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.espMez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp


I use many in your list, but not all, so Ammo Bench, for example, I really don't know where that goes. Most others I've based on my own load order, and the overhaul load order guide that's posted in the FWE release thread.
Though, if there are any mods you want to override the overhauls load them after them. I've a few that I have to shove in after WMK for them to work or show up at all. As well as some tweak mods that I want to override what FWE does (that I didn't like).
The couple of esps near the top, I usually arrange my houses, clothing, armor, weapons and other miscellanous bits 'n pieces there. Usually ones that the overhauls don't touch, anyway.

Of course, if other people have suggestions or wish to correct me, go right ahead :hehe: The bigger the load order the harder it is to get 'just right.'


Done and Done :D

Thanks very much, ill try it when i get home tonight.
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