Game locks up on death of certain creatures. : III

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:31 am

The music/sound will still play perfectly fine, but the whole game freezes otherwise.

This is nearly everytime when killing Slaughterfish, Cliffracers and Nix Hound. Immediately when their health reaches 0.

I cannot tab-out or use task manager, the mouse is "stuck" inside the game still and will not move out. Keys don't do anything...

I'm basically forced to reset the PC everytime, disable these creatures with the console everytime I encounter to them or hope to god they won't cause the error.

This was alittle after adding "Better Music System" mod, I think it may be something to do with combat music, but I have used a mod function to have it disabled.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:20 am

If you think it has to do with that mod, then you should get rid of every file associated with that mod to be sure.

This thing happens to me now and then, while fighting, not just on PC but on Xbox, too. Is the music still playing, or is it just a loop of the last few notes before the game froze? Becuase if the music is still playing, then it's not frozen, it's just being super-slow.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:18 pm

If you think it has to do with that mod, then you should get rid of every file associated with that mod to be sure.

This thing happens to me now and then, while fighting, not just on PC but on Xbox, too. Is the music still playing, or is it just a loop of the last few notes before the game froze? Becuase if the music is still playing, then it's not frozen, it's just being super-slow.

Music plays like normal gameplay.

It's like it's loading something......... For just about ever.

Funny thing is I can occasionally kill these creatures without problems, Slaughterfish are the worst chance-wise, but once a specific creature gets corrupted or whatever the rest in that immediate zone or nearby zones of the same kind are wacked.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:41 am

I'm not the most knowledgeable on this, but sometimes when you pass between cells, it'll stall. And you do move around between cells, when you fight, especially if it takes place on a border.

And if you're swinging your weapon, or your enemy is dying right as you pass into a new cell the game can stall for a real long time. You can be sitting there for a few minutes before it catches up with itself and it may seem like it froze.

If it's happening often, something is really taxing your processor and making the game slow. Sometimes lowering your view distance in the options menu will take care of stalling. Try that and also try removing that music mod or any big texture mods.

And, if you have other programs running in the background, especially those obnoxious adware things that start up right when you turn on the computer, they can slow it down, too.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:03 am

I think the logical thing to do is disable your mods and start from the ground up looking for the problem.
This is why I play on the Xbox. :rolleyes:

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:18 am

I used to get a CTD when hit by certain spells due to a problem with the sound (a modded one mind you). Try modifying your sound options. If it's hardware accelerated, try setting it to software accelerated, or vise versa. It fixed my problem a while ago.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:58 pm

I have this problem sometimes when Cencus and Excise mod is enabled.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:38 pm

A few others have reported this same problem with Census and Excise. I may have solved it, though I am awaiting confirmation from a few testers.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:32 pm

ZesvotzashniSinkunndaijari, you should probably post your load list (in order). As Ranchester pointed out, there are some mods which have been associated with the 'freeze on hit' phenomenon. It would be extremely helpful if this issue could be narrowed down to a particular script rather than individual mods, which could then be repaired, but we have to start somewhere and load list is usually the beginning.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:52 am

For help with mod problems its really essential that you post your mod list and the contents of your warnings.txt, http://www.mwmythicmods.com/starting.htm#6.

If you believe it to be Xiran's mod then what happens if you disable that mod? Are you using the latest version (1.5)? Do you meet all the prerequisites? i.e. MWSE 0.9.4 (or MGE 3.5.6 or later with internal MWSE enabled), Tribunal, Bloodmoon.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:54 pm

I'm not the most knowledgeable on this, but sometimes when you pass between cells, it'll stall. And you do move around between cells, when you fight, especially if it takes place on a border.

In almost all the cases I was in oudoor cells, so this is probably true in a few of those cases.

One case was a slaughterfish inside a shipwreck usually I load indoor cells 10x quicker.

I have this problem sometimes when Cencus and Excise mod is enabled.

A few others have reported this same problem with Census and Excise. I may have solved it, though I am awaiting confirmation from a few testers.

That's funny, I have that mod too.

For help with mod problems its really essential that you post your mod list and the contents of your warnings.txt, http://www.mwmythicmods.com/starting.htm#6.

1.If you believe it to be Xiran's mod then what happens if you disable that mod? 2.Are you using the latest version (1.5)? 3.Do you meet all the prerequisites? i.e. MWSE 0.9.4 (or MGE 3.5.6 or later with internal MWSE enabled), Tribunal, Bloodmoon.

1. I havn't tried disabling it yet, now that I look at some of the other posts, I don't really think it Xiran's mod specifically anymore.
2. Of what? His mod? No, I only have v111, never knew there was a new one.
3. MGE3.8.1-rev.0124, I'm pretty sure it has internal MWSE as those kind of mods (I have a bunch) work fine.
v.1.6.1820 of the game with Tribunal/Bloodmoon patch.

Here's my warnings.txt contents:

Script 'DaveNoSporeGunCheck1' is not allowed on Ammo 'Temp_dummyShell'.
Not able to find Ankle part in !Opossy_f_leg.
Not able to find Knee part in !Opossy_f_knee.
Unable to find referenced object "TC_CEDoorInner" in script TC_CEShipDockScript.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_05_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_02_F.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_02_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_02_F.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_01_F.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_02_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_01_F.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_04_F.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_04_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_02_M.
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Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_03_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_04_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_03_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_03_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_03_M.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_03_F.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_common_shoes_05_F.
Expression Error: SYNTAX in ab01algMainScript.
Set expression returned an error.

Here's my mod list, and it is ridiculously long:

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GameFile25=AreaEffectArrows.esp
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GameFile82=Dwemer Shock Gun Tribute.esp
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GameFile98=Hide The Skooma.esp
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GameFile100=House of Earthly Delights, Harem Style.esp
GameFile101=Hungers 1.1.esp
GameFile102=Ice's BM Ice & NordicMail.esp
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» Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:08 pm

I'd suggest getting http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7899 of Xiran's mod, one of the fixes is "There was a chance of CTD killing and disposing of certain enemies (see the readme for more info) before Battle Music stopped, and when a summoned creature disappeared before having killed, fixed." So, not a lock-up but it might help out.

The version of MGE you have will be fine, just make sure you don't also run external MWSE at the same time as MGE's built-in version.

I ran your modlist through mlox, there're few things it picks up:

Spoiler

(Note that when the load order input is from an external source, the [SIZE] predicate cannot check the plugin filesizes, so it defaults to True).[NOTE] > '[SIZE 131705 entertainers.esp]' > '[SIZE 30634 bcsounds.esp]' > '[SIZE 29635 AreaEffectArrows.esp]' | These official plugins have some GMSTs (game settings) that are duplicates of those in the masters. This means that they can be safely removed. However, if you choose to leave them in they should not cause any problems unless they mask intentional changes to those GMSTs that are made higher in your load order. | (See also: What the hell is a GMST? http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html )[NOTE] > 'Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp' | The Merged Leveled Lists feature of TESTOOL does not correctly calculate all merged lists. It is recommended that you also use the "Leveled List Resequencer" tool after creating Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp. | (Ref: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2726 ) | or better yet, just use "Wrye Mash" to create "Mashed Lists.esp".[CONFLICT] > 'Ald Redaynia Extended COM.esp' > 'Ald Redaynia Extended.esp' | "PLEASE DO NOT play both .esp files together or errors will occur." | (Ref: "Ald Redaynia Extended Readme.rtf")[CONFLICT] > 'AV_fem_armor_Trib.esp' > 'Divine_domina_part_3_Tribunal.esp' | Both "AVENGER'S female armor - Tribunal" by Avenger and "Divine Domina Part 3 Tribunal" by Jeremy McGuinn provide female versions of the Tribunal armors, you should decide which plugin to use.[CONFLICT] > 'Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.0.esm' > 'Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm' | No need to have both these activated as the Overhaul includes "Texture Fix - Bloodmoon". | (Ref: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5268 )[NOTE] > 'Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm' | "Texture Fix - Bloodmoon" is included in the newer "Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul": | http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5268 | However, if you do not want the land sculpting done in the Overhaul, the author recommends you stick with "Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm" which just fixes seams.[NOTE] > '[SIZE 2543 Statue Replacer - Marble.esp]' | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. It is recommended that you clean it with TESTool. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html )[NOTE] > 'Distant Land Fix for MGE.esp' | ! Version 3.6.0 of MGE added weather, wind and interior detection. This means that distant land is always off in interiors, including Mournhold, and that MGE's fog distance changes in response to the weather. | ! If you are using 3.6.0 or a later version you should disable harlanrm's "Distant Land Fix for MGE.esp" | ! (Ref: http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log )[NOTE] > 'Distant Land Interior Fix.esp' | ! Version 3.6.0 of MGE added interior detection. This means that distant land is always off in interiors, including Mournhold. If you using 3.6.0 or a later version you should disable Yacoby's "Distant Land Interior Fix". | ! (Ref: http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log ) | ! 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(What the hell is a GMST? http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html )[CONFLICT] > 'Clean The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind.esm' > 'Clean The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind.esp' | Choose ONLY ONE of these plugins. | (Ref: "The Lost Artifacts of Morrowind Readme.txt")[NOTE] > '[SIZE 2476 moons_soulgems.esp]' | !! The original version of this plugin contains two GMSTs that should be cleaned: (sEffectSummonFabricant and sMagicFabricantID) | !! (What the hell is a GMST? http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html )[NOTE] > 'Morrowind Code Patch Showcase.esp' | ! The Morrowind Code Patch Showcase does not need to be loaded for MCP to function. Disable the mod after you have compared how patched Morrowind differs from normal Morrowind. | ! (Ref: "MCP Readme.txt")[NOTE] > 'Ownership Indicator.esp' | These mods require Morrowind Graphics Extender (MGE) v3.0.3 or later, with MWSE enabled.[NOTE] > 'Better Telekinesis.esp' | These mods require Morrowind Script Extender (MWSE) v0.9.2 or later, or MGE v3.0.3 or later.[NOTE] > 'Arrow De-nocker.esp' > 'LA_MWSE Addon.esp' | These mods require Morrowind Script Extender (MWSE) v0.9.2a or later, or MGE v3.1 or later.[NOTE] > '[SIZE 33373 Sound Enhancements.esp]' | !! The "No Tribunal" version of this plugin contains evil GMSTs. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html )[CONFLICT] > 'NOM 2.13.esp' > 'entertainers.esp' | NOM conflicts with the Bethesda plugin "entertainers.esp". If you load NOM after entertainers, then Dulnea Ralaal in the Eight Plates no longer has the topic "entertain the guests". If you load entertainers after NOM, then you will lose some NOM functionality in the Eight Plates. | (Ref: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=926679&view=findpost&p=13546227 )[NOTE] > '[SIZE 5307 New fire damage effect v1.1 .esp]' | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. (Even though Readme | !! says it's clean, it isn't) | !! (What the hell is a GMST? http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html )[CONFLICT] > 'New Icons - WGI Compat.esp' > 'New Icons - Basic.esp' | Choose ONLY ONE of these plugins. | (Ref: "New Icons - Readme.txt")[NOTE] > "[SIZE 53226 The regulars - Sitting NPC's v2.02.esp]" | !! This plugin contains evil GMSTs. | !! (What the hell is a GMST? http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/gmst.html )[REQUIRES] !!!'[VER = 1.1109 Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp]' Requires: > 'MISSING(Sri Alchemy BM List Patch.esp)' | You are missing "Sri Alchemy BM List Patch". "Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp" (Version 1.1109) uses deprecated AddToLev* function to modify gamesas leveled lists. | For an explanation of why the functions AddToLev*/RemoveFromLev* are deprecated, please see: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Leveled_Lists | Some patches may be available at that link. | You can also get a replacement Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp that includes the patch here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20882[NOTE] > '[SIZE 30000464 TR_Map1.esm]' | ! This is an older version of TR Map1. There is a newer version included in "Tamriel Rebuilt: Map 2 - Antediluvian Secrets", which fixes some bugs, including the dialog loop when joining the Thieves Guild via Sugar-Lips Habasi: | ! http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=276723&id=7040[NOTE] > 'TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp' | In order to retain the modified interior light settings of TLM, "TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp" must load later than any mod that might change a pre-existing interior cell.[NOTE] > 'Brittlewind fix.esp' > 'Ebony Armor Fixes.esp' > 'Pelagiad Fix.esp' | ! All of these plugins are either included in, or the problems they address are also addressed by the latest MPP by quorn [Morrowind Patch v1.6.4]. It is recommended that you replace them with the MPP: | ! http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7347 | ! http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=4519[CONFLICT] > 'Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm' > 'Ebony Armor Fixes.esp' | The MPP obsoletes Ebony Armor Fixes v1.1 [Sapphron]. | "abyssmal terror" reports: both replace the same meshes, but have | different textures for the groin piece. the MPP one matches the | ground greaves. user preference for the groin mesh | (Ref: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=80&p=12924494&;entry12924494 )[CONFLICT] > 'Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm' > 'Pelagiad Fix.esp' | The MPP obsoletes "Pelagiad Fix.esp" from MiniMods Collection [ManaUser]. | (Ref: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=80&p=12924494&;entry12924494 )[CONFLICT] > 'Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm' > 'Brittlewind fix.esp' | The MPP obsoletes Brittlewind Fix [64057]. ("Brittlewind Fix.esp" is also distributed in "Galsiahs Character Development"). | (Ref: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=80&p=12924494&;entry12924494 )

As to some of your errors:

Script 'DaveNoSporeGunCheck1' is not allowed on Ammo 'Temp_dummyShell'.

This could be from "DwemerFireGunV1.2 Scripted.esp", looks like there's a new version (see mlox output), that might fix it

Unable to find referenced object "TC_CEDoorInner" in script TC_CEShipDockScript.

Not sure where this one is from

Expression Error: SYNTAX in ab01algMainScript.Set expression returned an error.

I think this is from abot's Where Are All Birds Going (at least that script name appears in my copy), double-check you've got the latest version (1.13, I think)

Oh, one last thing. With that number of mods bear in mind that you can't have more than 255 ESM, ESP and ESS files. ESS files are your saves so you might need to do some housekeeping in the future to ensure that you don't have more than 22 save games in your Saves directory.

[Edit: typos]

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:09 pm

Oh, one last thing. With that number of mods bear in mind that you can't have more than 255 ESM, ESP and ESS files. ESS files are your saves so you might need to do some housekeeping in the future to ensure that you don't have more than 22 save games in your Saves directory.

Just a minor correction on this. The ess files are only counted when they are active, and you can only have one active at a time. You can have as many as you want in the directory. I always save to a new file and have had several hundred in there with no problem.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:52 am

Just a minor correction on this. The ess files are only counted when they are active, and you can only have one active at a time. You can have as many as you want in the directory. I always save to a new file and have had several hundred in there with no problem.

eep. Thanks for the correction, Fliggerty. Although I have seen some posts where people start getting weird errors when the number of save files in their Saves directory starts getting to large numbers. I'd guess on your experience it must be many hundreds.

» Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:55 am

OK I went through and updated all of the out of date mods, deleted all the pointless conflicting or incompatible duplicates, cleaned everything with Enchanted Editor and swapped the load order around a bit...

I haven't tried it yet but it should be alittle more stable/organized than before, atleast that's the theory.

Pretty much the only concern left is Cesus and Excise Office.esp, I guess I'll just wait for the newer version when it comes.