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I think the actual install of the game is listed at 28 gigs and some change up to 64 gigs depending on language support options. I'm fairly certain though that the full game will arrive on plastic, CD encryption has expanded a lot over the years. What you'll have to be ready for is the almost GARUNTEED first day patch for bugs and fixes that will want to download the moment you boot it up. No telling how big that would be exactly but I don't think it'll break your 15 gig limit.

This worries me as well. GTA V required an additional 5GB, which wasn't so bad save for the fact you had to download through Rockstars cheap server which turned it into a 3 day event. Then there is the konami/MGSV incident where the disc only contained a steam installer, talk about an epic troll.

Bethesda staying mum on just how much people who buy the physical version will have to download doesn't give a positive outlook:(

My experience with BGS about there games on disk has been pretty good so far. They do tend to keep fixing bugs and glitches right up to the day of release so you can kind of count on there being a patch, but when you get their plastic it has always had as much of the self supporting game on it as they had available on the day of production wrap.

It is 28 GB to 35 GB depending on language support. South America, United Kingdom, Australia/New Zealand, Russia, and Poland will have 28 GB since they only have English voice support while Europe would have 35 GB due to having English/French/Italian/German/Spanish voice support.

Yeah ~facepalms~ not sure where the 64 number in my head came from.

Well I'm real happy to know that I'll just have to download updates. I had visions of spending days downloading 30gb with my poor internet connection.

The last game I bought was the original Deus Ex, I think about 2001.

Put the disk in and install. No need of internet or downloads.

Things sure have moved on.

Thanks guys.

In many ways I envy you being able to enjoy this game afresh

having last played a 2001 standard game.

It's easy for 'high-consumption' gamers to become unappreciative of what they have.

Isn't it a kind of standard practise not to include at least the main executable on the disc of a Steam-game?

I seen that post and it worries me since he didn't specify how much will have to be downloaded. With how idiotic publishers have gotten in regards to piracy and the idea that apparently everyone in the world has google fiber it would not surprise me if more than half the game has to be downloaded.

Ah, the days when you could just install everything from the disc and an internet connection wasn't even needed...

But games are awesome these days so Hopefully the download isn't too big. Now that I no longer live at home I pay a dollar for every gigabyte.

I have no idea how Steam works.

I did my pre-order through GS in a bundle.

If they pull the antics of Konami( Metal Gear Solid V TPP), I'll use V.A.T.S. and target someone straight at the head.

Still thinking, or maybe just praying, that the games content will be playable off the plastic and that anything that requires downloading is going to patched content.

Well, there's certainly the Day 1 patch. There's probably some bit that keeps the disc version from being run ahead of time.

And one random guess might be additional languages in different regions.

But we'll have to see. Hope it isn't too much.

I think 'play off the plastic' will not happen (on PC).

Pete Hines' https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/654763011677143041 confirms:

'you will still have to download from Steam. The disc doesn't contain the entire game.'

The physical game for PC ships on one DVD.

DVDs having a capacity of 8.5-9gb, so there's still some 20gb to be downloaded.

Looks like they have used the disk space as well as they can (not an unlock code as with Metal Gear Solid V) but more to download.

Why not ship on a Blu-Ray as with consoles?

Because the install base of PCs with Blu-Ray drives is insufficient to merit it.

So to the OP, if playing on PC, looks like a 24hr download on a 2meg connection and the monthly limit is going to get hammered.

Yeah, GTA 5 apparently shipped on 6 or 7 discs. That's the one place that PCs in general are "behind" consoles - the consoles have Blu-Ray players standard, many/most PCs still just have DVD.

(I anticipate a point, before everything goes 100% digital, where the physical disc in the box is a Blu-Ray, and people just have to upgrade. I seem to recall the original Myst being the game that made lots of people get a CD drive for their computers....)

I don't know why we haven't seen more of a move to USB sticks rather than discs. When I get my yearly update of CAD software from Autodesk, that's how it comes. I suppose it comes down to cost--memory sticks are getting cheaper, but they still can't beat the low price of DVDs, and for a $60 game, that's much more significant than for a $3000 piece of software. Guess I answered my own question.

Or a dozen if they came on floppies.

I can't find where it says the game only ships on 1 dvd? If thats true and people still have to DL 20GB+ I do find it humorous that Hines claims this is do to piracy yet fails to realize its **** moves like this that encourage piracy. People buy physical version to circumvent large downloads and avoid going over their ISP caps. Small additional downloads are fine, overkill downloads that negate buying the physical version are not.

Another reason I went with the Xbox One version instead of PC.

Ya looks like I'll be sticking to the console version as well, getting sick of this trend of making pc games unplayable without patches. What if that data is gone from steam 10-15 years from now then you can't play the game... thats why it should be all on the disc so you can install it without requiring anything, so you can play it at any point in the future just like how people are still playing atari and nes games today.

Yeah, I haven't seen anything about "1 disc". GTA 5 came on multiple discs, the copy of SWTOR I got earlier this year was multiple discs..... multiple DVDs in one box for a PC release isn't anything new for the industry.