As a PC gamer, I will not buy this game unless... : V - Skyrim

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:39 am

M$ has kept them from showing videos of anything else other than XB360. though more than once it has been said that the screenshots are mixed. and if you are worried about having to upgrade you probably should anyways. calm down.

No, they only show 360 vids because that's their lead platform. Microsoft doesn't give a [censored] and can't prevent them anyway. For the record, that composite shot of the mountains was a PC screenshot.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:09 pm

No, they only show 360 vids because that's their lead platform. Microsoft doesn't give a [censored] and can't prevent them anyway. For the record, that composite shot of the mountains was a PC screenshot.

Yup, the mountains one is PC indeed. Knowledgable people on the forums already established that fact based on resolution and all that good stuff I know barely anything about.

Also; Pete said this: "Then ask whether or not Skyrim will take advantage of the latest and greatest PC hardware, and I'll say yes, as I have b4"

Edit: Again I did your work for you guys and found Pete's tweets about screenies:

"You've already seen PC screens. You just didn't know it."

Someone replied: "Really? Mind sharing what the specific PC screens are? Link them if you dont mind?"

Pete: "Yes, I do. We specifically don't get into calling out platforms for our screens. We don't like platform catfights."

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:42 pm

You should watch Pete's twitter feed more often, mr. negative, it's been CONFIRMED. THAT MEANS YES FACTS.

kk, and those facts are where? Link to pictures that are officially confirmed to from PC are where???

And I will avoid name calling unlike your self. :wink_smile:

Edit: OK, so it seems that Pete said there are PC screen shots out there but will not tell us which ones are the PC ones. OK, so at best where still guessing based off resolution. Hmm, ok I'm not even gunna go there.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:02 pm

kk, and those facts are where? Link to pictures that are officially confirmed to from PC are where???

And I will avoid name calling unlike your self. :wink_smile:

Read my above post. People with a clue about resolutions on these forums have confirmed that certain screens are from PCs. And Bethesda's PR guy confirmed this, not wanting to believe Pete is just utterly rediculous.

Also, I'm not calling you names. You're just extremely negative. For instance you refuse to believe Bethesda's VP of PR and Merketing on the subject, says enough.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:30 pm

uhm guys? i just though id let you in on a secret. (ITS SKYRIM ;D) doesnt that make you feel better? now just 40 days till im returning to my homeland!

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:38 pm

Any true fan knows the PC version will be epic. This thread seems a little over dramatic.

1. Where's the official system requirements? If I need to upgrade I'd like it done before the game comes out so it's good and ready.

On the box. Since it runs on xbox it won't take much of a PC to run the thing. They said they would release that about a month before release.

2. Why haven't we seen any PC screenshots that show off the differences between the console versions and our platform?
(Please don't give me that PR stunt where Pete Hines or someone said they mixed in PC screenshots with the console ones. It's simply not true otherwise there really is no difference between the versions.)

They have shown some screens. Its obvious the two that are higher res than the xbox allows were PC. If it looks as good as XBOX I'm happy. We know it will be better, so what is the big deal? They don't want to hurt microsoft's feelings so they aren't going to show anything.

3. How come there hasn't been any word about our control schemes with the new "dual wield" and "favorites" gameplay mechanics?

Who cares? You can bind it to any key like always so your control scheme is how you want it.

4. Where's our unique menu and UI? Or are we going to be stuck with the console versions format yet again? Keep in mind we're playing on higher resolutions and we have the luxury of the mouse. Scrolling through menus and lists isn't what we should be stuck doing.

Did they promise PC users a unique menu? What's wrong with the xbox menu? Looks pretty intuitive to me.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:55 pm

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» Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:14 am

I'd be more likely to boycott it for using Steam.

System requirements are coming soon, as stated. Be patient, no one's forcing you to give Bethesda money.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:26 pm

Actually, its the content that isn't correctable with mods. If the storyline and the quests are all shallow, mods won't save the game. The UI and the game mechanics are all correctable.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:23 am

I don't understand how people can't do their research a month from release, there have been pc screenshots released already but they still fell like their left in the dark.

Can you point out (with confirmation) what screenshots are from PC?

Ever since the reveal in January, we were told time and again that everything was from the 360 version. Recently, Pete did an about-face and said "we never reveal what platform things come from", and refuses to say which aren't from the 360. Though even if he did, it's not like it'd matter since they set them up to look like the 360 version so we couldn't see what the PC version can offer anyway. We also have no idea how well it runs at various settings since they've only shown 360 footage.

So, what exactly do PC users know about their version of the game?

Did they promise PC users a unique menu? What's wrong with the xbox menu? Looks pretty intuitive to me.

GStaff once did say the PC version would have a different UI, yes. They then re-negged on that, saying it would look the same on the PC. And the problem with it is that it's designed for a controller with joysticks and buttons, not a keyboard and mouse. Considering what's been shown of it, it would be very obtuse and inefficient to interact with given a mouse and keyboard without at least some changes.

Actually, its the content that isn't correctable with mods. If the storyline and the quests are all shallow, mods won't save the game. The UI and the game mechanics are all correctable.

Actually, just the opposite. Quests can be fixed/added with mods. The UI and core mechanics are very difficult to modify, however. The Oblivion UI had some hardcoded restricitons and couldn't be modified to take proper advantage of the UI (some changes have finally come about after modifying the executable, but there's still fixes that can't be done), and the Fallout 3 UI was even less flexible.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:46 am

The only thing that (potentially) really chaps my ass is the UI. I am sick to death of getting console UI's ported into my games. I've got a whole frickin keyboard as well as a mouse, but am stuck with controller restrictions and layout.

Good enough isn't good enough.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:35 pm

Any true fan knows the PC version will be epic. This thread seems a little over dramatic.

1. Where's the official system requirements? If I need to upgrade I'd like it done before the game comes out so it's good and ready.

On the box. Since it runs on xbox it won't take much of a PC to run the thing. They said they would release that about a month before release.

2. Why haven't we seen any PC screenshots that show off the differences between the console versions and our platform?
(Please don't give me that PR stunt where Pete Hines or someone said they mixed in PC screenshots with the console ones. It's simply not true otherwise there really is no difference between the versions.)

They have shown some screens. Its obvious the two that are higher res than the xbox allows were PC. If it looks as good as XBOX I'm happy. We know it will be better, so what is the big deal? They don't want to hurt microsoft's feelings so they aren't going to show anything.

3. How come there hasn't been any word about our control schemes with the new "dual wield" and "favorites" gameplay mechanics?

Who cares? You can bind it to any key like always so your control scheme is how you want it.

4. Where's our unique menu and UI? Or are we going to be stuck with the console versions format yet again? Keep in mind we're playing on higher resolutions and we have the luxury of the mouse. Scrolling through menus and lists isn't what we should be stuck doing.

Did they promise PC users a unique menu? What's wrong with the xbox menu? Looks pretty intuitive to me.

Good answers. I think this is a reasonable way to think about an upcoming game. We know they are limited to current consoles and can infer much just from that fact.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:16 pm

Pete confirmed that in the flood of pictures that was released, there was a PC shot mixed in there. Major speculation what it could have been. My guess is http://oyster.ignimgs.com/ve3d/images/08/65/86535_CompositeMountain.jpg and or http://images.uesp.net/c/c8/SR-BleakFallsBarrowScene_wLegal.jpg.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:35 am

If your so picky and have no faith in Bethesda delivering an awesome pc version wait for the reviews and gameplay walkthrough videos

Also when I say if your so picky that's not meant to be an insult a lot of us pc gamers are..........

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:47 am

Oblivion in PC --> Many Problems never fixed!
Fallout 3 in PC --> Some Problems, but nothing gamebreaking as Oblivion had.
Fallout: New Vegas in PC --> Many Problems fixed in later patches.

Seeing from Bethesda's last game (Fallout 3) and its successor (New Vegas), I would say that it will receive a good Port.

I just hope that it is better than GTA IV... That game was completely made to run in a Xbox and is laggy in many average/good PCs.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:50 pm

Couldnt agree with you more. I despise the fact that the game was made for the fricken xbox THEN ported over to the BETTER platforms. A$$ backwards to me.

2 Reasons:

1. 360 will outsell PS3 and PC

2. Apparently it's easier to develop for

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:38 pm

If you are worried about the system requirements you need to buy a new PC.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:32 am

I don't understand how we're just about a month from release and our platform is still left in the dark.

If I want the collectors edition I'm supposed to just put blind faith into the game. You're expecting us to put down a lot of money for a game we know next to nothing about. It's bad enough we don't get to wait for reviews. But considering how much of a joke the videogame journalism industry has been lately I guess it's not as big of a deal as it used to be.

What's more important to me are the following:

1. Where's the official system requirements? If I need to upgrade I'd like it done before the game comes out so it's good and ready.

2. Why haven't we seen any PC screenshots that show off the differences between the console versions and our platform?
(Please don't give me that PR stunt where Pete Hines or someone said they mixed in PC screenshots with the console ones. It's simply not true otherwise there really is no difference between the versions.)

3. How come there hasn't been any word about our control schemes with the new "dual wield" and "favorites" gameplay mechanics?

4. Where's our unique menu and UI? Or are we going to be stuck with the console versions format yet again? Keep in mind we're playing on higher resolutions and we have the luxury of the mouse. Scrolling through menus and lists isn't what we should be stuck doing.
(Mods can only do so much to change how the UI looks. The mod tools are for the creation of content. The actual UI and menus are hardcoded into the game. You can tweak them a little bit through certain files but that's about it. You won't be able to say... put Morrowind's menu into Skyrim or Oblivion. So stop giving me "Mods" as an answer. It didn't work for Oblivion, it didn't work for Fallout 3, it's not going to work for Skyrim.)

1. Meh, not really that concerned about this. The system req. won't be that high and we have a pretty good idea of what they'll be right here on this forum.

2. It'll look better then the consoles so who cares?

3. I don't think it's that important and I think it may have been confirmed.

4. Don't care, I thought Oblivion's was fine.

Pete confirmed that in the flood of pictures that was released, there was a PC shot mixed in there. Major speculation what it could have been. My guess is http://oyster.ignimgs.com/ve3d/images/08/65/86535_CompositeMountain.jpg and or http://images.uesp.net/c/c8/SR-BleakFallsBarrowScene_wLegal.jpg.

Wow that first one looks good!

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:59 pm

@DCDeacon Shifting my concern to the PC version
@Andrew_Reiner The PC version looks and runs great. If you have a high-end PC, it's gonna melt your face.

None of the screens have melted my face, so there aren't any PC screens yet.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:37 am

2 Reasons:

1. 360 will outsell PS3 and PC

2. Apparently it's easier to develop for

1. The Consoles will outsell PC, but Xbox alone will not. (IMO)

2. I agree, it seems easier to make a game for a very good platform and then port it to the weaker one. Skyrim could not even run in the Xbox if it was done for the Average PC. :tongue:

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:00 pm

I'd be more likely to boycott it for using Steam.

System requirements are coming soon, as stated. Be patient, no one's forcing you to give Bethesda money.

Yeah pretty disappointed about Steam myself. TES is the ONLY game series that has ANY chance of getting me to buy a game with Steam involved. My wifre and best friend are not so open minded and Steam will never be on their PCs again.. I am impatient for system requirements but tha's just because I'm so exited ( and really torn ) about the game.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:54 pm

Pete confirmed that in the flood of pictures that was released, there was a PC shot mixed in there. Major speculation what it could have been. My guess is http://oyster.ignimgs.com/ve3d/images/08/65/86535_CompositeMountain.jpg and or http://images.uesp.net/c/c8/SR-BleakFallsBarrowScene_wLegal.jpg.

My guess is "composite mountain" is definitely PC because....daaannnggg that's a nice screenshot! If it's Xbox though, can you imagine how awesome PC will look? :drool:

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:15 am

I don't understand how we're just about a month from release and our platform is still left in the dark.

If I want the collectors edition I'm supposed to just put blind faith into the game. You're expecting us to put down a lot of money for a game we know next to nothing about. It's bad enough we don't get to wait for reviews. But considering how much of a joke the videogame journalism industry has been lately I guess it's not as big of a deal as it used to be.

What's more important to me are the following:

1. Where's the official system requirements? If I need to upgrade I'd like it done before the game comes out so it's good and ready.

2. Why haven't we seen any PC screenshots that show off the differences between the console versions and our platform?
(Please don't give me that PR stunt where Pete Hines or someone said they mixed in PC screenshots with the console ones. It's simply not true otherwise there really is no difference between the versions.)

3. How come there hasn't been any word about our control schemes with the new "dual wield" and "favorites" gameplay mechanics?

4. Where's our unique menu and UI? Or are we going to be stuck with the console versions format yet again? Keep in mind we're playing on higher resolutions and we have the luxury of the mouse. Scrolling through menus and lists isn't what we should be stuck doing.
(Mods can only do so much to change how the UI looks. The mod tools are for the creation of content. The actual UI and menus are hardcoded into the game. You can tweak them a little bit through certain files but that's about it. You won't be able to say... put Morrowind's menu into Skyrim or Oblivion. So stop giving me "Mods" as an answer. It didn't work for Oblivion, it didn't work for Fallout 3, it's not going to work for Skyrim.)

Agree...

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:49 am

The only thing that (potentially) really chaps my ass is the UI. I am sick to death of getting console UI's ported into my games. I've got a whole frickin keyboard as well as a mouse, but am stuck with controller restrictions and layout.

Good enough isn't good enough.

lmao...yups. Assassins Creed is fine example of that. Had to buy an xbox controller just so I could continue on in the game cuz of special jumps I had to do that required several buttons pressed in a specific way to complete the jump up the damn wall. And the camera view had to be just right so I could make these special jumps work correctly. Was impossible to have the correct camera view and press the right buttons at the same time with the mouse and keyboard. Pi$$ed me off to no end!!! :flame:

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:29 pm

2 Reasons:

1. 360 will outsell PS3 and PC

2. Apparently it's easier to develop for

Yes, I agree.

But have you noticed that Bethesda's main fans are mostly all PC gamers? Least they are in this forum. So, in a SMALL way I feel us hard core fans are sorta neglected.(In a SMALL way) :sadvaultboy: