"It's a game for both" = It's a game for the people who don't like RPG's. Sorry, no matter how noble your intentions this has pretty much always been the case. I mostly suspect it's because of the "let's make it dumber so people will understand it easier" attitude, when it should be "let's just explain our complex game better."

That shopkeeper example is almost verbatim from member conversations held here from 2007, about what FO3 might potentially be like. Its cool that they actually implemented it.

:celebration: I totally agree!!!

And thats is why i cant wait to play the damned game; to view the scenery and the sunsets! OB was another level in that department, and Skyrim will be mind blowing

Well I can't find the scan anywhere so I'll have to wait until tonight for it to be tomorrow over there so I can see the screen on their website.


EDIT: Scratch that, looks amazing. I can't wait for this to be out in the public view so we can finally put the graphics debate to rest.

Agree that the latter should be the design focus... I guess what's arguable here is whether the design decisions Bethesda have made fit into the former or the latter. So one might argue that, at least in some respects, Skyrim is more complex than Morrowind or Daggerfall. For example, now you've got a two-tiered system for how to pick skills - not only must you pick skills, but you've also got to pick skill perks! And you can't get all of them, so you need to pick wisely! Contrast that with previous systems, where there was just a single decision you needed to make - which of these skills should I use, or make my major skills - even though there were more options....

(I don't want to get in a fight about this, I just want to point out that it's not obvious just by making the distinction you make, where Bethesda lie. They probably lie on one side in some respects, and on the other side in other respects).

is this scan new? http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=1fojj.jpg

Can some one post a link to the lake scan? or key words.

My googlefu is the best.

Naruto is a pretty cool anime but.

reread this thread dude.

the rock textures look....average.

Just checked it out. It is pretty cool. Thanks!

How is this not the most talked about topic now? One week ago the forums were clamoring on account of the translation that magic creation might be out. Now we have confirmation that the magic system will allow 'advanced combinations' .I must say I'm surprised this isn't a popular topic.

I dont get it i must be stupid

I remember those!

( I lurked here for like 4 years before I finally joined )

I think it sounds like a pretty good idea. I hope that these contingency NPCs aren't infinite. If they're not, then it will be pretty awesome. Especially the revenge part.

I'd say the art design in Naruto as beautiful as Skyrim.

Maybe you can try looking in the Skyrim section of other Elder Scrolls forums.

I need to see that pic! : :angry:

I just found it. Nice screen, but the scan quality was really low.

I must say, those mountains in the background look menacing...and amazing.

Thanks for clarifying that. In no way was I aware that I was flaming you. I mean, I even sarcastically used phrases you and the other guy used. But nope, no way.

I can't believe how hard the facetious nature of my post flew over your head, as I'm sure this one will. Incredible.

What's with all this Naruto detective stuff? Can the scan be found by googling or not?

Sarcasm doesn't work well on the internet.

I agree. :ninja:

Or with the socially awkward.

oh, come on, it's really easy to guess...

beautiful screen. (im sure its a screen. cant see why it cant be).