Again, you haven't actually read the post.
Please READ before REPLYING.

I'm not saying it is, or it isn't.

But there are alot of things out there detrimental to pc gaming.

The qeastion here is, is Crytek now part of the problem?




Look, i'll break it down to a really, really simple level, seeing as even being prompted it's still not comprehended.

We must destroy all the coffee machines in Crytek Office. Otherwise, they begin to work. Although it was necessary to do so last year.

PC gaming has APPARENTLY been dying for the last 10 years if I remember correctly.
Looking at it logically, its the most powerful hardware commercially available within 2 years of a consoles release and there will always be devs willing to push the limits of their engines on it. Not to mention dodgy port releases that are apparently pretty easy to make due MS's coding similarities between the 360 and PC.
Finally, when game variety on the PC erodes, prudent developers will seize the moment and capatilise on the lack of competition. When they return with profitable results other devs will kick in and the PC gaming community reignites. Its like the chicken and the egg, in other words, PC gaming will never die.

You forgot to mention Bad customers/PC Users. Don't put all the blame on the companies, alot has to do with the way the pc community acts as well...

I'm not saying it is, or it isn't. But there are alot of things out there detrimental to pc gaming.
Shoddy console ports, no proper support, consolization, games not using pc's graphics potential, 6 month delays. Bad PR from media (cliiffy B/gametrailers for example). Horrible DRM and many other problems.

The qeastion here is, is Crytek now part of the problem?

Pc question is NOT dying..

Starcraft 2, Shogun 2, The witcher , Minecraft, world of warcraft ( 10 million people..), Diablo 3 soon and the witcher 2, .. etc etc

If they make a pc game good they can earn billions with it! They just need to take a side or consoles or Pc.

PC gaming looks like it's been gaining momentum to me. 3 years ago during the huge vista related PC slump there were loads of games which didn't even come out on PC!

You forgot to mention Bad customers/PC Users. Don't put all the blame on the companies, alot has to do with the way the pc community acts as well...


Hah this guy again trying to blame it on "our attitude"

Your posts make me laugh buddy.

I'm not saying it is, or it isn't. But there are alot of things out there detrimental to pc gaming.
Shoddy console ports, no proper support, consolization, games not using pc's graphics potential, 6 month delays. Bad PR from media (cliiffy B/gametrailers for example). Horrible DRM and many other problems.

The qeastion here is, is Crytek now part of the problem?

To the OP. Yes. Crytek is now a part of the problem. Had they wanted to spend some money on this game instead of just reaping maximum profit, they have the technology in their engine to make the PC version leaps and bounds better than the console version. I mean it's not even funny how much they limit the game's potential by simply making one version that is identical accross all platforms.

They need to take a page from DICE's book and use PC as the lead platform and if need be cut things out of the console versions to let them run on the weaker spec systems.

But no, that costs too much I guess. And according to our buddy Codebreaker, we don't deserve that since we're assholes.

After reading this forum for a while I say let it die, half of the people here are whinny ungratefull morons, the other half are pirates or cheaters and just the remaining 1% are gamers. Imagine you are a developer, you put all your hard work into something and then someone releases the game on the internet a month before release, then you release the game and people only whines about stupid textures and whatnot, and then hackers destroy your multiplayer, I would be depressed, I would have no interest in ever doing anything for the PC again, atleast as an exclusive.

I would be depressed, I would have no interest in ever doing anything for the PC again, atleast as an exclusive.

They should be depressed. Look at the lies and compromises they made.

I'd feel bad too if I was Crytek, and deservedly so.

After reading this forum for a while I say let it die, half of the people here are whinny ungratefull morons, the other half are pirates or cheaters and just the remaining 1% are gamers. Imagine you are a developer, you put all your hard work into something and then someone releases the game on the internet a month before release, then you release the game and people only whines about stupid textures and whatnot, and then hackers destroy your multiplayer, I would be depressed, I would have no interest in ever doing anything for the PC again, atleast as an exclusive.

It's just because PC gamers are generally more familiar with the concept of community feedback. If crytek had made an excellent game, this forum would be flooded with praise from the PC community.

Regardless, this minority is still a minority. The few million PC gamers who bought crysis 2 will primarily be having fun with the game. However, forums like this, despite the moaning in situations like this, are useful for seeing what is wrong with a game.

What's wrong with crysis 2 atm isn't the game itself per say, but actually that crytek promised a lot that they haven't provided.

No, Crytek gave me a fun game to play while I wait for BF3 to come out.

Yes I said a fun game, because unlike most retards in here crying about how bad the graphics and hackers are, I'm actually playing the damn game.

And hackers svck ass anyway even with hacks so who cares?

I'm not saying it is, or it isn't. But there are alot of things out there detrimental to pc gaming.
Shoddy console ports, no proper support, consolization, games not using pc's graphics potential, 6 month delays. Bad PR from media (cliiffy B/gametrailers for example). Horrible DRM and many other problems.

The qeastion here is, is Crytek now part of the problem?

Pc gaming is growing.

Also I would like to add DLC to that list. I am not against it in itself. But when games are released in a state that screams that stuff was cut to sell it as add-ons later, the greed becomes obnoxious and it pisses me off. Atleast a couple of releases last year showed this tendency.

The rampant piracy has been seen in the wrong light by developers. Crysis had atleast 1 million costumers. Those that did not buy are not costumers (or a lost sale) and **** them anyway. Rather than the constant bile against all the people who have a PC who simply cant help themselves, it is time they start to appreciate their actual PC costumer base and treat us A LOT nicer.

Because the way its going is just not right. If a storeclerk had the same attitude towards me that gaming companies seem to have, I would never go there again and I would tell him that he is an asshole. But I guess thats why PC gamers often come of as whiny, because thats exactly what they are saying, but there are no other store to go to as the problem is a general one within the industry.

Battlefield 3 is going to set the bar up on PC again.

No more console ports or games for PC running DX9 only.

This time, BF3 is being produced for the PC, in full glory and then ported and dumbed down to consoles.

DICE said this several times, and all of their trailers/teasers are actual PC gameplay.

If they pull this off (which i think they will), competitors will see the PC sale go higher than consoles, and follow what DICE did.

No more console ports or games for PC running DX9 only.

From what I understand all xbox games are really ported from the pc as thats where they are made. It is the crossplatform thing that doesnt account for the fact that PC gamers are a completely different animal from console gamers. Generally speaking. I have the same hopes that you do for BF3.

I also think Gabe N was right when he said that pirates are costumers he hadnt addressed correctly. I think digital distribution is the stuff conversions are made from and what will give pc gaming its revival. Torrents with all their obvious dangers are suddenly not so attractive when you can get relatively new AAA tittles at weekends for 25% the normal price or get free games with pre orders etc. Sure its not flawless but its a heavy argument from the industry thats hard to ignore.

After reading this forum for a while I say let it die, half of the people here are whinny ungratefull morons, the other half are pirates or cheaters and just the remaining 1% are gamers. Imagine you are a developer, you put all your hard work into something and then someone releases the game on the internet a month before release, then you release the game and people only whines about stupid textures and whatnot, and then hackers destroy your multiplayer, I would be depressed, I would have no interest in ever doing anything for the PC again, atleast as an exclusive.

Developpers are paid for their work, and WE pay them for this bugged game.
2 weeks to find the way how than non register user who don't pay the game can't have access to their servers ? Are u joking me ? really ?
Maybe they aren't develeppors but ice cream maker than in the meantime write codes.

Again, I never said pc gaming was growing or declining, I said it has problems and simply asked if Crytek are now part of the problem.

Jesus Christ people, it's hardly string theory!

WE BELIEVE IN DICE AND VALVE

Again, I never said pc gaming was growing or declining, I said it has problems and simply asked if Crytek are now part of the problem.

They are. They are not treating their PC fanbase right and they know it. But people are so soon to turn on others for the most minor inconvenience. Im not drawing Crytek to the slaughterblock just yet. We all make mistakes, we all fall victim to greed and or stupid and lazy from time to time both as individuals and whole companies at a time. Also remember that more often than not, the real culprit for cuts and stupid decisions are some muppet with a tie and an excecutive position at a publisher like say....Electronic Arts?!

After reading this forum for a while I say let it die, half of the people here are whinny ungratefull morons, the other half are pirates or cheaters and just the remaining 1% are gamers. Imagine you are a developer, you put all your hard work into something and then someone releases the game on the internet a month before release, then you release the game and people only whines about stupid textures and whatnot, and then hackers destroy your multiplayer, I would be depressed, I would have no interest in ever doing anything for the PC again, atleast as an exclusive.

It's just because PC gamers are generally more familiar with the concept of community feedback. If crytek had made an excellent game, this forum would be flooded with praise from the PC community.

Regardless, this minority is still a minority. The few million PC gamers who bought crysis 2 will primarily be having fun with the game. However, forums like this, despite the moaning in situations like this, are useful for seeing what is wrong with a game.

What's wrong with crysis 2 atm isn't the game itself per say, but actually that crytek promised a lot that they haven't provided.

Games are what music is to the internet.
If you take the time and search you might find little treasures coming from companies that aren't popular at all.
Believe me pc gaming has some great games, people often stop too often at the 1st page of a google search or popular covers and titles.

I'm not saying it is, or it isn't. But there are alot of things out there detrimental to pc gaming.
Shoddy console ports, no proper support, consolization, games not using pc's graphics potential, 6 month delays. Bad PR from media (cliiffy B/gametrailers for example). Horrible DRM and many other problems.

The qeastion here is, is Crytek now part of the problem?
Than we shall pirate consoles!

On the other hand, no PC gaming does not die. We are simply in a place where certain publishers keep on refusing to die out. They struggle and continue to milk their trademarks harder and harder without giving them time to grow.

Lets hope they wont be able to figure out there is money to be made by milking INDIE developers. That would just make another Kalipso and we dont want that.

PS.
I also think developers stopped being creative, refuses to take chances, the ones that used to be creative are long working at Blizzard. lol

Yes your attitude toward companies makes the pc community look like a bunch of whiners, when infact it's people like yourself a minority who think they know more than game companies themselves....Your just a back seat driver who doesn't have a clue what companies go through, nor how games are made and just sit on forums complaining all day..The biggest part of the community are enjoying crysis 2. And everyone is entitled to an opinion, so if you don't like mine, get over it..It's a game after all, not a way of life. Have a nice day.....

You forgot to mention Bad customers/PC Users. Don't put all the blame on the companies, alot has to do with the way the pc community acts as well...


Hah this guy again trying to blame it on "our attitude"

Your posts make me laugh buddy.

I'm not saying it is, or it isn't. But there are alot of things out there detrimental to pc gaming.
Shoddy console ports, no proper support, consolization, games not using pc's graphics potential, 6 month delays. Bad PR from media (cliiffy B/gametrailers for example). Horrible DRM and many other problems.

The qeastion here is, is Crytek now part of the problem?

To the OP. Yes. Crytek is now a part of the problem. Had they wanted to spend some money on this game instead of just reaping maximum profit, they have the technology in their engine to make the PC version leaps and bounds better than the console version. I mean it's not even funny how much they limit the game's potential by simply making one version that is identical accross all platforms.

They need to take a page from DICE's book and use PC as the lead platform and if need be cut things out of the console versions to let them run on the weaker spec systems.

But no, that costs too much I guess. And according to our buddy Codebreaker, we don't deserve that since we're assholes.

let’s face it. our Hobby, and it is just that, is on the decline. Fewer and fewer people are building high end rigs (this will prob be my last one) because they can pick up a $300 console and get the latest AAA game with pretty graphics. I for one enjoy gaming on my 360 so it's not the end of the world for me, and I would have got this game for the console had I known, but that's another story...

The time has passed for the golden age of PC gaming. Back when most games where designed for the PC first and multiplatform games where few and far between with even fewer AAA titles. The only thing we will be getting from here on out are a small handful of FPS's designed for PC and the rest will be RTS's, Sim's, MMO's and ports from the consoles.

Developers are not going to spend the time and money to develop for PC any more, the return on investment just isn't there anymore. 500K units sold use to be good, but now any game with a 2 star review will sell that many for console...

We might just have to get use to playing FPS's with a controller :*(