PC gaming is dead. Its been dead for years.....


^ I'm saying this as I am eagerly awaiting for the time to hit noon so I can blast off over to Steam to see what saweeeeeeeeet deals I can get!

Ummm.... Oblivion is created by Bethesda who are a PC company. Try comparing it to something like Rockstar games: Red dead, or Activisions: Call of duty. Who aren't dedicated to the PC.

Surely the fact that there are companies that you would call PC companies means that PC gaming is alive and well? If it were dead a so called "PC company" like Bethesda would surely be dead too?

"Officially" you say? Well then I best tell my and everybody else that I know's PCs that their days are numbered.

The definitive version of every Call of Duty game has been the PC version, without even the slightest question. Saying that you should use that as an example because Oblivion is made by a company that makes PC games is like saying you should eat a meat sandwich on meat bread with a single leaf of lettuce because there's too much meat in a regular cold cut of ham.

Not everyone is a pirate so stop generalizing.

If pc gaming is dying then http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/microsoft-wants-windows-8-to-relaunch-pc-gaming-917416

Guys guys.

Have you ever stopped and considered that Consoles holding back PC's might actually be a good thing?

I mean really, if consoles didn't keep back rapidly advancing graphical technology, PC gaming would get too expensive, too fast. Every few months a new graphics card would pop out allowing you to get "an inch more" graphical power and I know most of the dedicated PC gamers would want to buy the newest and latest thing.

I'm personally quite content that MY PC, which was the top of it's line when Halo 2 came out, can still play modern games pretty decently without me having to spend more money.

Think about it.

No, just no. I doubt you are getting anything above medium, and in that case you might as well be on a console.
I guess according to you I wasted a bit over $1600.
Completely because no new games that have come out have had any new graphics or physics engines. *roll eyes*

$10 from my paypal accout says metro 2033 brings your "4 year old" pc to a stop, I bet NFS shift would too.
I played NFS shift on the console, I hated it. Got it real cheep on steam and its 100% better on the PC.
Mods? I bet your console can do that huh?

When you can play a game, at true HD settings and NON upscaled 1980X1020 (or higher) and at the same time stream music from online or your music library AND access the internet at the same time then the PC will be in trouble.
Trouble is, it takes a PC to do all those things.
Any pc that can play a game with maxed setting and add on mods will be, and has been superior to the console.
Consoles are good for gaming, and are doing it with outdated hardware. Thats holding the PC back.

Some games like just cause 2 will not run on that pc you have, it doesnt even support DX9 or XP.


^ this.



^ I can't even max metro 2033, and I got a bit over $1,600 in my pc.



Lots of games are PC only, or simply work and look better than console versions.
Just because a few people pirate a game, doesn't mean everyone is going to.

ts the consoles fault for being so easy to access. You can just mod it and do anything you want, why would anyone support it?

^ c wut i did thar?



Her-a-derp.
Rock star, GTA games on pc and console.
gamesas, games on console and PC.
Beth soft is NOT a pc company.

Blizzard is.
Has blizzard ever made a console game?

Pc gaming is alive and well, take a look at steam, GOG.com and other sites, impulse comes to mind.
Enjoy inferior graphics, no graphics settings. Only one control setup, at least I have access to just about any control setup I want.
Also, enjoy nod mods!

There's a thing called adjusting graphic settings.

If someone wants to continue playing all games at max settings, then of course they will have to have a pretty good rig. However, if someone can't run a certain game at max settings, they can just turn down some graphic settings.

I shouldn't call them "PC companies." Rather dedicated to the PC. Bethesda makes games on the consoles as well. HOWEVER most of their money comes from the consoles.

This again? Ho hum, here we go....

It's all down to preferences, OK? There's no ultimate "superior" platform. Every platform had it's pros and cons. Xbox is limited by Microsoft being idiotic and disc space. PS3 is limited by lack of post release support from developers. PC's take a bit of knowhow to get working properly and generally arent as stable.

On the plus sides consoles are easier to use (which after a long day at work does make a difference). PS3 gets blu ray, so loads of space. Xbox has a lot of backing and support. Etc, etc, etc... The list is endless. The PC's huge plus point is modifications.

So yeah, console hardware might be holding PC's back somewhat. But there's always going to be PC's behind the times. In fact I'd be as bold to say that the average PC is only slightly better than a console in hardware terms. Developers must factor those into their product as well. They can't build everything to run on the top end rigs only, it's not financially viable.

No matter which way you slice it consoles are here to stay, and they are big business. You can scream "console-kids" and "dumbed down" as much as you like, but they'll still only be stereotypes. I for one would love to see a deeper, more emergent Elder Scrolls game on every platform, and I'm a console user.

The same reason Microsoft made the same claims with Windows 7. And Windows XP. Microsoft likes to claim that every version of Windows will be a boon to gamers, will usher in a new era of office productivity, and will cure most every disease known to man. It's basically just a matter of MS wanting to promote their new platform as broadly as possible and as much as possible, and really isn't an indication of anything meaningful.


The point you're making is basically right, but the way you're making it isn't. New graphics cards (and hardware in general) do pop out at a pretty blisteringly fast rate, and some people do buy them. The consoles "limiting" PCs is still a good control for the PC software market - the PS3 and 360 are both capable enough that they don't really hold back developers in terms of features, but weak enough that they do force developers to spend more time on optimization and on providing a set of graphics options that are available for lower tiers of hardware... which broadens the PC market for them, since it means more people who can actually play their games on PC.

PC gaming... dead? I just looked at one of biggest online shops here, and 8 out of 10 top selling games are for PC (few days ago it was even 9/10). So no, PC gaming is alive, at least in my country.

Officially dead, you say. Remarkable.


I'm glad to know that the HM Council on Fun and Recreation has declared that PC gaming will no longer be recognized as an entertainment option. I'll be sure to let everyone know.

This is probably the most ignorant thing I've heard all day, and probably will be the most ignorant thing I hear all day.

Implying new video cards and hardware doesn't come out every few months. :wink_smile:

PC gaming is not outrageously costly, if you build a new PC the same time a new console came out and you used top of the line hardware not only will the PC outlast the console, it will do more than the console and you can upgrade it when the next consoles come out.

Pc's are what you make of them, I use my pc for more than gaming, but its the main reason I got it.

The most excellent Starcraft 64! (ahem, ahem! )
And Rock 'n Roll Racing... and Lost Vikings. (But these two were GOOD games, not like Starcraft's port. )

I recall an awesome article about explaining why PC gaming is not dead, showing also every title exclusives released since folks started saying that. I remember it was posted here.

PC Gaming won't die. Looking at how popular websites like GOG and Steam are for purchasing games online...
There are much, much less space reserved for PC Game boxes than console games in stores, that's right. But most folks who are into PC Gaming will make their purchases on online stores.

PC gaming is no where near dead and same goes to US automotive industry.

How much did micro$oft and/or Sony pay you to say that?

responses in bold.
No, just no. my PC is just as stable as any console, it takes VERY little know how to build and use a PC.
Please, computers are SO easy to use now its not even funny.


Oh really? easy to use you say?
What that steam? I don;t even have to get up to swap discs? in fact I don;t have to get up at all? I just click and start playing? AMAZING!
Whats that PS3? you have blue ray? well so do I? AMAZING!
Whats that 360? you have backing and support? well considering we are both Microsoft products I guess we have the same backing ans support then?

No.

Wide range of support options means that most PC's can play games, has nothing to do with anything else.
Low-Medium-High.


No I see some pretty bad things on other sites, but this is my cake for the day so far.

Whats that?
A new steam sale you say?
I got to go.

Trumpeting that a PC game is poorly optimized enough that his machine can't run it is kind of ridiculous in a thread about how PC gaming is dying/dead.


You mean 1920x1080, and there are console games that can do this (and I don't think most gamers on PC can do this with most new games at a solid framerate, honestly). The "stream music from your music library while playing games" thing is actually a standard feature on the 360.


See my last couple of posts.


Again, trumpeting the fact that some PC games don't support broadly-used platforms in a thread about PC gaming being on the decline is a bad idea.


"A few people" is a bit of a low estimate on your part.


Tried to compare PC piracy, where it's possible to pirate software with virtually no effort, to console piracy, which often requires voiding the warranty, cracking the thing open and installing a piece of hardware that you have to pay for, or else sending it off to have that installed at added cost? Yeah, I saw that. I wasn't very impressed, but I saw that.


Rockstar slowed down the PC development heavily and then more or less stopped recently. Read Dead Redemption is their last big release and is console-only. L.A. Noire is the next one, and is (again) going to be console only. Max Payne 3 is the only game they have that might be coming out on PC, and that's been pushed back so far that it no longer has a release date aside from "not in the next year". Even GTA4 was an incredibly sloppy port on their part. In general, Rockstar doesn't really make PC games anymore - there's a reason I didn't pick at this in my own posts.


Yeah, actually. A lot of them.


GoG is not an indication of the current PC gaming industry being healthy given that the entirety of its catalog consists of old games.


Most of who's money? Bethesda's or Activision's? Because they both make most of their money on consoles by far, and both make bucketloads of cash on PC as well, so I'm not seeing where you're going with this.

Pc gaming, happily dying since 1985.

Given that Sony sells computers and Microsoft sells... er... the platform that very nearly all of PC gaming is done on, that doesn't really make any sense.


This is false as a matter of fact. PC operating systems in general aren't nearly as limited in scope as the ones used on the consoles. The result is that they're more prone to issues. Prone enough to make it a major issue? No, not really, but your PC certainly isn't "just as stable as any console".


Compared to consoles, this isn't really true either.


Almost like the games you can buy off of the online stores for the Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Wii. In fact, exactly like the ones you can get on those online stores.


Except, given that the 360 and Windows are handled by different customer support departments in entirely different divisions of Microsoft, this probably isn't true.

@rabish12 So what are you trying to suggest that we throw our PCs out the window and replace them with console(s)!?!?! :huh:

boo hoo

Take a look at nearly every post I've made in this thread that wasn't directed at you, since they make this response of your more than a little silly. The fact that the person who started this thread is wrong doesn't make you right just for taking the opposite position.