I think he's saying that while PC gaming isn't dead, and is perfectly fine, your points are ridiculous.

I guess giving my 360 away and buying a PC was a bad Idea?
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With all this dying pc gaming has been doing for the past 10+ years it sure is going strong.

Captain Picard is SO better than Captain Kirk!

As long as were calling "official" shots on entire industries, I declare that gasoline powered cars are OFFICIALLY obsolete!

Exactly my point. :thumbsup:
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Is this a joke? Cuz I'm laughing.

Right, PC gaming is dead because you can play new games on a 4 year old computer... Right.
What next? Toaster ovens svck because you have an older one that still works? Damn those companies not making us shell out $1000's of dollars each year.

Ah, Bethesda Forums. How I've missed your... Fascinating arguments. If this can even be called an argument, anyway.

If PC gaming died, it would soon be reinvented. If there is a platform in a sufficient number of homes on which it's possible to play games, people will. Personally, I'd say that versatility and freedom are the qualities that make PC gaming my preference.

Ha Ha... my poor boy you have not seen the golden land of Steam. With mounds of deals and sales with which to whet your whistle with. We are in a renaissance of PC gaming, and things have never looked better, figuratively speaking. Now we can find incredibly niche or old games right at the tips of our fingers and enjoy the wonders of the past. We can look forward to such packs as the humble indie bundles with their great gameplay. We have Crysis for the graphics hoars. Then the sheer utility of a PC is stunning. I can use it for anything, and I can learn almost as much from it. If you know where to look. It all has a very big price to get into this club. Gaming Rig, monthly internet, and any other charges. But by god once your here on a PC you are only limited by your imagination. Games are just the tip of the iceberg. Too many good years of gaming on the PC and to Steam! :foodndrink:

I think its just graphically intense, not a opti issue.


yeah I got two numbers out of place.
All I ever got out of my 360 was upscaled 720 to 1080.
Anyone with a $600 Pc can likely run along side a console.






Because not supporting old OS and moving/looking to the future and current O.S is a bad thing right?



More people buy than pirate.



as if the info and needed items can not be found using google.








Because people who buy new PC's or own Pc;s NEVER EVER play or buy old games. *roll eyes*
I guess I better delete all the old games off my new PC.








I beg to differ, my pc will with out a doubt far more stable than a console.





PC D2D and steam sales are far more popular than digital games on the console.


Implying windows isn't a massive sales/software/hardware juggernaut and doesn't have heaps of support.

So gaming is dead because you want shinier graphics and thousands of dollars to spend on new hardware in the next years? I'll remain firmly on my seat then, laughing. ^_^

http://www.rainymood.com/ http://endlessvideo.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k Combine the two for an epic classy mood. For those who really aren't at all worried about the situation.

Constantly releasing games that only use the latest technology would be more of a threat to PC gaming,catering to a smaller minority of PC gamers and reducing the profits by making it so most PC users couldn't play at all.

I had to buy a new PC in order to play "Oblivion" and other games of its generation, but somehow I don't think I will have to upgrade for "Skyrim". I'm not sure why everyone's assuming "Skyrim" will be a leap forward in technology. My PC is only a Dell and it's far from state of the art, but I think it will run this.

Wow, thank you for telling me this now, I just popped in my new 6970 to find out PC gaming is dead.

/sarcasm

Seriously, PC gaming is not dead. I get 98% of my games on the PC. (Some multiplayer games I get on the Xbox since most people around here play them on there). There is no way I would switch back to a console for Skyrim, or any other game I would play a lot.

Your point is that your points are ridiculous? That's interesting.

With Metro, I'm fairly certain it's both.


All you ever assumed you got out of your 360 was upscaled. That doesn't mean that's all you ever got.


It was a bad thing when well over half their potential audience was cut in half by doing it, yes. I'm for dropping Windows XP as soon as possible, but it's still not a compelling argument for PC gaming when products are released that cut off such a huge swath of the market.


This really, really depends on the game. Really. Besides which this really doesn't change the fact that "a few people" is a horrible understatement in terms of piracy.


Which changes the point I was making, which is that it costs money and takes time and effort... how, exactly?


You seem to be missing the point I was making pretty much entirely. A store that sells literally nothing except old titles doesn't indicate anything about how well the current PC games market is doing. I actually said that explicitly. I used the phrase "current PC gaming industry" in the sentence you quoted. It's like you're not even reading what I'm saying.


You can beg to differ all you want. You're still wrong. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact - PC OSes have to do more things, and as a result are invariably less stable. Period. This isn't arguable. It's absolute basic common sense.


I take it you have sales figures for that, then.


No, stating that support for Windows and support for Xbox 360 isn't the same thing.

Really, really starting to think that there's not much to gain trying to discuss this with you, given that you seem to be barely glancing over my points before responding to them and pretty much all of your responses amount to "PC is better in every way period just because".

hype

PC is better in every way period just because".


No, I don;t because I don;t care enough to go find them. If you want to know, go look. I am not google, or a google bot.

Its not Like I used to own a PS3, and a 360.

Thats my weak and shallow straw man agreement.
Pc gaming and Pc's in general are better just because.
1) I owned and hated my 360 (2 RROd 360's) and PS3.(I hate you PS3)
2) I own a great Pc (so far, in 8 years 0% of my Pc;s have failed to work, or gotten RROD/YROD.)
3) I love kb/m and controllers/joysticks.
4) pc gaming is not dead, and has been dying for years.

Titan, you basically stopped being worth responding to when you cut a post responding to every one of your points down to the one line you had an actual response to, then even brushed that off with what more or less amounts to "use Google" (spoilers: I track game sales as a hobby - the reason I asked you to provide me sales figures showing that is because I know for a fact that they don't exist, so using Google wouldn't help). Regardless of the state of PC gaming, you haven't really made any legitimate or useful points here and very nearly everything you've said is wrong. I've given reasons why they're wrong, your best response to those reasons consists of "blah blah, stuff" so you clearly know they're wrong as well.

Nvm.
I just think it's stupid that you can say PC gaming is dead when there are tons of people that use it. I guess just because you don't like something means that it is dead.

No, I clearly don't care.

You have given opinions, I don't care about you're opinion. (spoilers, I am a millionaire space shuttle pilot) Also, you don;t care about mine.

Opinion, you have provided no links or useful info either, and expect me to do so. Ill pass.

rabish12, I am not going to get into a internet E-fight, you feel I am not worth responding to, yet respond anyway? Why?

I like pc's I like gaming on my PC.
Its obvious that PC's are not going anywhere, they are making more then enough money on non gaming things to worry about that.
Pc gaming is not going any where, any time soon. (steam was digital sales alone where about 340 million depending on what year you look at) no developer is going to say "gee herp-a-derp I want to pass on the multi million dollar Pc game market for every game I make from now on"
Pc's always have had PC only games, and so have consoles. just because game X is not on the pc does not mean that pc gaming is dying.
The entire pc gaming hardware market is going strong, so is the software side.







Opinions are like *blanks* everyone has one, and they all stink.

I would just like to point out that we are all, as we read this topic, technically also dying.

Carry on.

so, all of us are officially dead then?

Uh, no. Wrong. I'm not responding to your opinions. I don't think I've responded to an opinion of yours at any point in this thread. Opinions are not verifiably true or false, and in these kinds of discussions are generally just statements of preference. What I've been responding to are claims of yours. Those claims are false.

Please don't try to hide behind "opinions" when opinions aren't involved in the discussion just to try and deflect having to either admit that you were wrong or defend what you've claimed.


See, just saying that I haven't given any useful info because I said that you haven't doesn't work, particularly when I have given useful info. I've given it multiple times, right from the first page. As for links... well, most of what I've said doesn't actually require links and would be more or less impossible to support with links because it's either basic common sense (that PC OSes are less stable than console OSes, though if you want me to link you to... say, a comparative list of known bugs and glitches in the 360 or PS3 OS and another for Windows 7, I would be glad to) or a response to a ridiculous claim for which there is no link because you more or less made something up and stated it as fact (like that Steam sales do better than PSN/XBLA sales). But if you want links for any of the specific points I've made, feel free to ask. I'll give them.


Boredom.


None of which makes any of the things that I've responded to true or correct in any way. You're trying to justify yourself by saying that PC gaming isn't dying, therefore everything you've said in support of that is true. That doesn't work. PC gaming isn't dying, but that doesn't change the fact that several of the things you've said are wrong.


And opinions still have absolutely nothing to do with anything I've said in response to your posts.