Um.... yeah. Title says it all: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1714/geckoblur.jpg

Never seen anything like this before. I did just install a new video card, an HD 6970 along with Catalyst 11.4. Gecko is the only program manifesting anything weird like this.

If I move the mouse over a button, it becomes briefly visible, but then blurs back out again.

Any ideas?

That's incredibly bizarre and I have no idea how to fix it.

But man nice job with the video card!!! Have you tried installing MTAEVWD's extra unoptimized rocks and stuff to see if it runs at like, 4 fps instead of 2 fps? That's what I'd do if I got a beefy new card. You've got me looking at video cards on newegg now, drooling and jealous considering I built this computer two years ago. Telling myself I can splurge after Skyrim comes out, no use in getting anything now, but those 6950s seem pretty nice for the cost... Dammit!

Sorry, easily distracted and often derailing. New video cards get me excited, though, living vicariously through others and all.

Anyway, I'm assuming you've uninstalled/reinstalled Gecko, rebooted your computer and tried it, all of that stuff? Hmm, have you tried it while using a different screen resolution? Ran it in compatibility modes? Just trying to think of anything you can do, that won't necessarily fix it but could at least providing some insight.. Hmm........

Heh. Unfortunately I can already tell you that Oblivion's performance made no appreciable improvement other than the AA+AF override actually working properly - whereas on the 4870 that apparently was broken.

This isn't the first time I've had issues with Gecko. Prior to starting it up today, on the 4870 it would occasionally go entirely black. Slightly nudging the size of the window would fix it again and it was usable. Now nothing I do with it helps. It's not incredibly important but would be nice to have it solved if possible.

Reboots haven't helped, and since it's the only program acting up I'm not about to spin my wheels adjusting stuff that might end up breaking other more important things. Mainly hoping someone has seen this before and has a solution. It's almost like it's running some kind of special menu effect, but why would only this program be doing that?

Do other java applets behave the same way? Since you already have the latest video driver, something to try would be update your java version I suppose. If that still doesn't work then an exotic thing to do is disable hardware acceleration in java.

Apparently even the Java control panel applet behaves this way. Gecko is the only Java applet I have btw, and setting that runtime parameter didn't help. That was quite difficult to even do when I couldn't read the menus

I wonder if it's because I'm on a 64 bit OS but Java is 32 bit? Otherwise the Java runtime is already up to date.

long shot: Un-reinstall Java.

second long shot: Look up graphical problems with Java support.

I'm on 64 bit OS with 32 bit java too, not experiencing anything like that. Also using Catalyst 11.4. Maybe try what Oblivious suggests, reinstall java. Otherwise I think we're out of ideas lol.

I had to back date java before as Gecko was acting strange (forgot details) and found at he sun micro site several previous versions.

I also recall Ismelda once saying that updating java broke Gecko too, but that was over a year ago.

I've long since updated without issue. So I too suggest uninstall/reinstall.

Probably hosed - Googling about ran me into the Java support page who's only solution was what was already suggested - with this lame excuse:


Sorry, but I'm seeing this differently Sun. Your Java update is incompatible with my video driver and YOU GUYS need to fix this.
/rant

For the record, uninstalling Java, rebooting, and reinstalling Java had no effect.

Also can't get 64 bit Java because Mozilla is too backward to officially offer a 64 bit version of Firefox.

I had the exact same problem back in January, you need to uninstall Java 6 and install Java 1.5 (aka Java 5). Gecko will then work again.

Well I guess that's one way to solve it, but then what about stuff that may want Java 6? I must admit, I rarely prod the world of Java so I'm not up anymore on whether you can run both at the same time and point Gecko to the old one.

Also, it seems I missed where Oracle now owns Java. This explains so much.

Wasn't Sun Microsystems' acquisition by Oracle way back in the beginning of last year? But you can install both versions of java with no issues, they go in different folders. Then you just have to point Gecko to the appropriate directory. Think you can set which version your system use by default in the Java Control panel, just enable/disable it where you entered the runtime parameters earlier.

Arthmoor: Try disabling Morphological anti-aliasing aka MLAA and see if it helps.

Yep, that fixes it. This is one of those situations where I wish CCC had a setup like nVidia where you can make settings for individual games that only take effect when that game is running.

Yes, there are profiles and things you can do, but I strongly dislike having to manually activate them just to play. AMD really needs to get their crap together on that.

Oracle also need to get their crap together and fix Java because it's still their error that this would happen ONLY with their stuff.

Me too! I miss the nVidia graphics settings unique to each game since I switched to ATI for my current GPU.

Use 3rd party tools, problem solved. ATI Tray Tools allows me to have all kinds of different profiles for my applications/games. Whenever I am not in a game/application, my "default" settings are selected. Different apps, different profiles - all automatically.

Oh, and do some research before claiming things. There are loads of FF builds that are 64-bit native.

Offtopic but ...

The nerd in me wants it too, but anyway, what would be the point in 64-bit firefox? Outside of willy-wanging. Do you need FF to be able to use more than 4GB of ram per single process? And if so, are you ready to sacrifice all plugin functionality (flash, etc) apart from java (and silverlight woo)? Apart from process memory adress size, you'll have almost no advantage, and the move to 64-bit will increase memory use by default ...

If you really need 64-bit java go to java.com in 64-bit explorer

The point of a x64 FF version is improvements. In theory, 64-bit applications are able to do tasks twice as fast as there counterpart. I could go into more details but that would be a waste of my time.

Just remember that most known plugins of FF are not x64 compatible. That is why FF lacks a x64 installer on their site.

Learn to read before chastising someone, would you? I said there are no supported 64 bit builds. 10 seconds at the Mozilla forums told me this. They aren't planning to do that until at least 5.0. Using one of them now is not something Mozilla is officially offering.

Anyway, 3rd party stuff doesn't work either. Radeon Pro does nothing, and after poking a bunch of stuff I even managed to somehow make it kill OBSE. End result was always the same - no change.

I've tried ATI Tray Tools in the past and it also never worked for Oblivion, but maybe that's changed now. I really REALLY wish this stuff was supported in CCC itself though, because their presets system they have now is horrible.

Sorry, that's a misunderstanding of what is involved. Only if all your operations are such that you can somehow transform 2 x86 operations into 1x x64 operation, all the way across the machine code. By the way, I have some real estate in southern Spain I'm selling, cheap ...

... this, of course, never happens in reality. Your speed increase depends entirely on the kind of math ops being run, and can be 0% (none) increase for many desktop tasks, depending on the compiler and your CPU ... for most other things you're looking at about 5%.

Tried ATT dated 2011-03-31 09:30:08 and still no joy in Oblivion. Irritating line, obvious jaggies. AA override isn't working, and ATT doesn't seem to have access to the "enhance application settings" mode.