GeoHotz Wins over Sony, which is bad. Very bad.

Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:02 pm

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/11/sony-and-playstation-3-jailbreaker-george-hotz-settle-out-of-cou/

After the legal battle between Sony and GeoHotz, both have to agreements. Now being a PS3 player, this would case games to be hacked and exploited. So the relevance here applies to games such as Brink. It's a massive concern because this will effect everyone who just want to play the game.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:59 pm

I would suggest you read through the entire contract before you declare him "winning".

http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f6/26802d1302540442-settlement-george-hotz-case-127-stipulation.pdf

The sky is not falling.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:40 am

I haven't been following this thing very closely... what actually happened?
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:23 pm

I don't see how he "won" at all....
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:05 pm

No...GeoHotz basically lost. How is this "very, very bad?"
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:04 am

I guess for the people that want to MOD their PS3s it is bad but it doesn't effect everyone except those stipulated in that case. Personally I hoped he got sent to prison, but him going bankrupt isn't bad either.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:22 pm

Are you thinking Anonymous will attack the PSN servers and crash them again? If that's the case, you're worried they'll attack Playstation again, they have stated that they won't attack the Playstation online servers, as their goal isn't to cause trouble for other people.

In all honesty, GeoHotz had found a loophole not covered by Sony's Terms of Service, so, although I do not personally approve of his actions, he was doing right by the law. Sony had just scrapped together a case and I guess this intimidated him.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:16 pm

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The PS3 root key is already out.

No matter what Sony wins in court, they can't un-tell the people who already know, and they can't prevent it from being shared online.

Once something's been made public like that, even if the person who made it public gets their pants sued off them, there's major legal precedents for the leaked information to remain public.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:43 am

...

The PS3 root key is already out.

No matter what Sony wins in court, they can't un-tell the people who already know, and they can't prevent it from being shared online.

Once something's been made public like that, even if the person who made it public gets their pants sued off them, there's major legal precedents for the leaked information to remain public.


Guess this motivates Sony to make a better hack-proof system next time.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:06 pm

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/11/sony-and-playstation-3-jailbreaker-george-hotz-settle-out-of-cou/

After the legal battle between Sony and GeoHotz, both have to agreements. Now being a PS3 player, this would case games to be hacked and exploited. So the relevance here applies to games such as Brink. It's a massive concern because this will effect everyone who just want to play the game.


XBox for the win! teehee :teehee:
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:21 am

I would suggest you read through the entire contract before you declare him "winning".http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f6/26802d1302540442-settlement-george-hotz-case-127-stipulation.pdfThe sky is not falling.


Off-Topic: I like your avatar. I'm a Daft Punk fan.

I haven't been following this thing very closely... what actually happened?


Not sure, only think I know that GeoHotz is in South American because he knows that he's [censor] in NA.

I don't see how he "won" at all....


I'm still lost about it.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:26 am

Guess this motivates Sony to make a better hack-proof system next time.


Dont say that! That'll inspire Sony to make the PS4, forcing everyone to migrate to it and spending hundreds of dollars in the process! Don't you see this is all a plan to svck your/your parent's bank accounts dry?!?

And to everyone worrying - It's being protected by VAC, the same anti-cheat system that kept Counter-Strike and Team Fortress 2 hack-free.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:01 am

geohotz hasnt done anything for ps3 jailbreak, the firmware was already cracked months before he even attempted touching it,

the ps3 got "jailbroke" when a 3rd party indie dev stolen/sold a ps3 dev console and it got handed into the hands of some shady characters.


geohotz hasnt accomplished anything except ps3 homebrew which amounts to jack squat, because nobody uses it


personally this topic should be locked/moved this doesnt belong in "BRINK GENERAL" forum
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:51 am

Are you thinking Anonymous will attack the PSN servers and crash them again? If that's the case, you're worried they'll attack Playstation again, they have stated that they won't attack the Playstation online servers, as their goal isn't to cause trouble for other people.

In all honesty, GeoHotz had found a loophole not covered by Sony's Terms of Service, so, although I do not personally approve of his actions, he was doing right by the law. Sony had just scrapped together a case and I guess this intimidated him.


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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:48 pm

Dont say that! That'll inspire Sony to make the PS4, forcing everyone to migrate to it and spending hundreds of dollars in the process! Don't you see this is all a plan to svck your/your parent's bank accounts dry?!?

And to everyone worrying - It's being protected by VAC, the same anti-cheat system that kept Counter-Strike and Team Fortress 2 hack-free.

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I haven't been following the case much, and though it is interesting, I don't think this will stop Sony's modders from doing what they do best.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:52 pm

No, no, no, thats not what it means at all.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:20 pm

XBox for the win! teehee :teehee:



What he said ^
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:46 am

er lmfao at this frist it was geo but team failoverflow hacked it sorry for miss spelling and all that could have ben a flash in a pass if they dident take linux out in the frist place sure we can all say most of us dident need it but the people who payed top bill when it frist came out got p.oed so what sony stated was the ps3 could never ever be hacked and with whats going on looked what happened hacked case closed but noo sony killed linux geo found a glitch notihng couldent happen too it just a patch over then bam overflow came in unlocked the ps3 got sum cool keys and geo took over and got more and leaked em too the net. IN all if sony loves the people and cares soo damn much hire the hackers ffs.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:15 am

Wow this thread seriously surprised me. I cant believe so much people are against GeoHotz, and support Sony! GeoHotz is practically a modern day robin hood. He steals from the rich and gives to the poor. Sony is nothing but a bunch of suited men who care about nothing more than to make as much money as possible. ALL companies are like this. And you people want to support Sony? What the hell for? Are their 100-foot yachts not enough? You guys want them to buy 200-foot yachts?!? And dont even try to give me the whole oh the money goes to the developers, by supporting GeoHotz you are supporting taking money from the hard working developers...WRONG. when you play games for free you are not punishing the developers you are just taking away that extra money the publishers get to fuel their luxurious private jets.

And for those of you saying that what GeoHotz did was illegal...I dont know if what he did was technically illegal or not, but who cares! You people who say this are the ones that blindly follow the Law because you think the law dictactes was is morally good. That is totally wrong. The law does not mean anything. it is just a set of rules made by men to keep other men in cattle. Honestly, I hate seeing how people believe that the law is the 'right' thing to do, when it reality it is what allows the damn government to make us live our lives however they want us to. That whole concept of "freedom" is just a facade.

I support GeoHotz!! ...even if he lost
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:25 pm

Wow this thread seriously surprised me. I cant believe so much people are against GeoHotz, and support Sony! GeoHotz is practically a modern day robin hood. He steals from the rich and gives to the poor. Sony is nothing but a bunch of suited men who care about nothing more than to make as much money as possible. ALL companies are like this. And you people want to support Sony? What the hell for? Are their 100-foot yachts not enough? You guys want them to buy 200-foot yachts?!? And dont even try to give me the whole oh the money goes to the developers, by supporting GeoHotz you are supporting taking money from the hard working developers...WRONG. when you play games for free you are not punishing the developers you are just taking away that extra money the publishers get to fuel their luxurious private jets.

And for those of you saying that what GeoHotz did was illegal...I dont know if what he did was technically illegal or not, but who cares! You people who say this are the ones that blindly follow the Law because you think the law dictactes was is morally good. That is totally wrong. The law does not mean anything. it is just a set of rules made by men to keep other men in cattle. Honestly, I hate seeing how people believe that the law is the 'right' thing to do, when it reality it is what allows the damn government to make us lie our lives however they want us to. That whole concept of "freedom" is just a facade.

I support GeoHotz!! ...even if he lost

Even Splash Damage and Bethesda? THOSE BASTARDS!
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:55 pm

Isn't the five-year console life cycle done for all three systems, anyway? We're due for a new wave of consoles.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:24 pm

Even Splash Damage and Bethesda? THOSE BASTARDS!


Oh please dont be so naive. I dont doubt that the splash damage developers really want to make a game enjoyable to gamers, but like everyone else, their end game is to make as much money as possible. Tsk, the game hasnt come out and already they took a preemtive strike against our wallets by making different bonus for different pre-orders.

Lmao i cant recall ever seeing a Non-profit video game organization.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:49 pm

Oh please dont be so naive. I dont doubt that the splash damage developers really want to make a game enjoyable to gamers, but like everyone else, their end game is to make as much money as possible. Tsk, the game hasnt come out and already they took a preemtive strike against our wallets by making different bonus for different pre-orders.

Lmao i cant recall ever seeing a Non-profit video game organization.

For the record, I was using sarcasm. Not your fault though, very hard to get sarcasm through via text.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:12 pm

Oh please dont be so naive. I dont doubt that the splash damage developers really want to make a game enjoyable to gamers, but like everyone else, their end game is to make as much money as possible. Tsk, the game hasnt come out and already they took a preemtive strike against our wallets by making different bonus for different pre-orders.

Lmao i cant recall ever seeing a Non-profit video game organization.



One the pre order bonuses are not game breaking if you don't get them, there just small little things to have fun with. Two if your hating on game makers so much for them making a profit you don't have to buy the game ya know -.-. Also if you make a game that's fun for people more people will buy it thus, even if they just want money that would actually increase there profit by making a game people will love an enjoy.
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Post » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:28 pm

Here read http://www.cheatcc.com/extra/top10thingspirateshavethatwedont.html It's article talking about what modders have that we don't. Yes modders can be annoying because they cheat, but there are some that make games/consoles better. If gaming companies put things in that modders can do in their products, then there will be less hackers. I'm with GeoHotz on this. Also, please read that article. It does point out some things that should be in consoles/games.
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