Looks like we found the new thing to get everyone's panties in a bunch. "Light target-magnetism" Can't wait for the thread.

Depends on how you define the "suburb" I think. See below:

The name itself came about because the original founders wanted to name the company simply "Softworks" but that was taken, and the one guy lived in Bethesda at the time, so they named it Bethesda Softworks and it was based out of his kitchen. Later they got an office in Rockville but kept the name, and BGS came out of that. Or so I'm told... it was long before my time here. :shrug:



Exactly. In fact, this whole region is referred to as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Metropolitan_Area which is then part of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore%E2%80%93Washington_Metropolitan_Area in sort of the same way as New York is made up of the various boroughs. People commute into DC from here, and it's pretty much one big suburban sprawl (with some "pocket cities" scattered throughout) from the Beltway into the outer areas of northern Virginia and "southern" Maryland. It's just easier to say "DC area" than it is to specify the part of Maryland or VA you are talking about when addressing an (inter)national audience which would be unfamiliar with the specific local geography.

Might as well start explaining why its not that bad, might even be able to toggle it on or off.

Most games have this anyway..at least on easier levels

Could this auto-targeting be linked to weapon skill?

That would be awesome... I have played so many RPG / FPS games that my point-with-a-mouse skill is pretty high, but my character's blade / bow / whatever skill is often low... therefore he should often miss.

I doubt there's much chance of this (it's probably more along the lines of "hey, the move towards player skill was great in Oblivion, but some players have trouble aiming and occasionally die... how do we make sure they also win all the time?"), but you can always hope.

The original Deus Ex had auto-target linked to weapon skill (at low skill level you missed even if your mouse was aiming directly at the enemy), and it rocked. The new Deus Ex apparently is just point-and-shoot, so I guess such features have gone out of fashion

Haha yeah.

A light target-magnetism would be really bad imo. At least for the PC. That would be ridiculous.
For the consoles, it can actually be good. When I played Morrowind on xbox, I found it very hard to aim.

Regarding dungeon level locking: What about the people who don't follow the game as closely as we do and don't know about the dungeon level lock? MORE IMPORTANTLY what about players who like to avoid quests and mainly explore? This is going to kill that by locking out good loot from explorers?

As suspected, they are making the game more approachable to casual gamers. People who aren't serious RPGers don't want to meticulously manage their skills for level ups they just select he perks they think will be most useful to them.

In oblivion, the frequent use of your main skills led to your character being weaker than it's full potential. In Skyrim it's the clear choice of being good all-around or excellent in a narrow field. I like it, makes for a much more streamlined and focused experience. Also, it would make tracking your progress easier.

However the target-magnetism stuff sounds quite bad. I hope it isn't present in the PC version (some games have auto-target for the console version only).

Loot was never mentioned. All he talked about were enemies.

That's even more flawed. So if loot is handplaced and separate from player/enemy level then we can go to every dungeon at level one, come back when we're stronger, clear out every dungeon since they will all be locked at level one, and grab all the good loot?!?!

I did and that guy is not an expert though he may be very knowledgeable, and if you read his attachments even he has a slight doubt of his own, and I am willing to give it the benefit of doubt, but never the less it is widely known that all helm wearers at one time or another came across others who adorned their helms, and as a statement of office, for infliction of fear on the battlefield, or for just show, they would start adorning their own, so why would widely traveled vikings not do it periodically, we cant know for sure, even if their was no proof whatsoever, it just wouldnt make sense to do so, sorry

This really worries me...

I get the impression that dungeons will have level limits (so, for example, there will be a dungeon with level limit 10-15, and if you go down there at level 1 it locks at level 10).

I hope so, anyway. The way you describe is just as broken as Oblivion's. I would think it was so obviously flawed that it wouldn't be considered... but I would also have said that about Oblivion's system if you had asked me seven years ago...

pretty certain this will be it. I mean, let's face it, they will have a whole team of testers and polishers, I think they will sort this in the end. I hope!

It should be like that - it was like that in Fallout 3, and we've been told that level scaling is more like Fallout 3 than like Oblivion.

So, in all likelihood, we won't be able to take our level 1 character, enter all dungeons, and lock all the enemies to level 1. Even if you enter all dungeons with your level 1 character, some of the enemies might be at level 10, some at level 15, and so on.

Maybe dungeon locked at your level but loot is not. So enter at level 1 and dungeon is locked at this level but loot changes as you do.

Why do you all have to state things as though you were there? did you travel by time machine to the time of vikings and see them thru all of their history and to every village and town or hamlet to see what was in vogue all over? no you didnt so that means even if their is no proof of it, the lack of such would be less then credible, since as I said all helm wearers at 1 time or another DID adorn their helms for 1 reason or another. That is a fact of history even viking history has images of adorned helms that they dont know the reason for if you go by what that other guy sent me to to read look under horns in that page you sent me .

This is what worries me. If dungeons are locked at your level but loot changes with your level that's a HUGE problem. I can go into every dungeon at level one and lock them into that level. I can then go level up to just say level 15 for example. Then I can go back to all of those dungeons that are locked in as level 1 and wipe them all out at level 15 and get level 15 loot!?!? That's crazy!

Apparently the idea of wings and horns on helmets is based on 1 single (and slightly dubious source, a tapestry). There is no archaeological evidence of their use. However we're talking about TES so this argument is really as silly as saying "hey there's no such thing as elves! how can they have elven armour!". Its a fantasy game not a real world sim!

No if you lock them at lvl 1 you would get nothing but lvl 1 loot that has already been stated,..........

Hmmmm...fair point! Hadn't thought of it like that! guess we'll just have to not do all 100 dungeons straight off! maybe I'll do some wood cutting for awhile!

"Nevertheless there will be easier and harder dungeons". Thank you very much, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

That pretty much kills the game for people who don't want to quest and just want to explore and roam the world.

Viking as far as we know did not wear horned helemts.

I'm pretty sure a level "floor" was already confirmed. Like, a certain dungeon will always be at least level 10 and another at least 15, but if you go into either of those at 20, they'll be higher leveled. Not sure if a "ceiling" was confirmed, though.

I suspect its in both console and pc because often people had trouble hitting enemies with bolt style spells.