Can we stop with useless comments. Please no more, "Derp learn to aim" or "Lead your target". I'm not new to shooting games I know that sometimes you have to lead your target.

Oh, okay then.

Plain ol' no than.

Ok. Why is it that you say no?

Because there's plenty of alternatives to using them as well as the fact they're not hard to use.

I'm a little surprised at just how many people responded to this thread without reading the first post. The person who started the thread doesn't actually want to get rid of the magical projectiles, he just wants them to be faster.

I'm also surprised at how many people are against faster projectiles. Having magic spells move like bullets might be a little excessive, but the fact is that projectile spells in Oblivion are far, far too slow. Even with a low Speed stat, you can sidestep while walking to dodge projectile spells from enemies, and the only reason they're so effective against enemies is because the AI is so extremely poor.

Exactly, thank you. I don't want to get rid of them I just want them to be so fast that they basically aren't projectiles anymore, even though they are. Also, I titled this thread "Get rid of magic projectiles in Skyrim?", which is a question not a statement. Although I should've chosen a better title.

I have no idea what your complaint is. Console player 100%, only game I've successfully played on PC is KotoR. I never had an issue with projectile speed an infact used it to my advantage at times. I could send a projectile at a target in the distance and move to a different position before I hit the target, setting up my next attack or leading the target towards an area that favored my style of fighting. So yes, the projectiles could move faster and I wouldn't throw a fit but I think that if you adjusted your mind there wouldn't be a problem and instead of thinking that something has to be done to satisfy you when others think it's fine maybe you should listen to all those people who say it's fine and learn to deal instead of banging your head against a wall of people who disagree with you.

Also, your tone throughout this whole thread has been largely condescending and downright offensive a couple times. Maybe playing nicer would get you more brownie points with the community you're trying to sway into agreement with you?

Fix't.


And I fail to see how making them faster would help with your aiming issues.

I'm done trying to reason with you. The controls in Oblivion were fine on consoles. Your opinion is wrong, now let's close the thread and be done with this trollfest.

I never used magic projectiles often in Oblivion. Being a console player (for the most part) it's nearly impossible to hit a moving target with a slow moving projectile. I think if magic projectiles should be replaced with a sort of magic which is like a bullet(I know a bullet is a projectile). When a bullet is shot over a short range it hits near instantly after it is shot. This spell would act similarly where you point at your target, cast, and it instantly hits your target. Of course the enemies will have the same ability so avoiding an incoming magic attack will come impossible(Unless the AI has a percent possibility it will miss). I think this would probably make silence and resistance magic more important. Overall I think it would make the magic system more useful. Do you agree?

P.S. Before any one starts with the ant-console talk. I have played through Oblivion on PC and the projectiles where still hard to use(to me, I don't play on the PC often). Oo and bow and arrow is almost useless as well because of how many arrows it takes to kill an enemy. I would like crossbows which would act similar to the spell I mentioned above.

Sorry buddy, learn the basic...L2lead.