Well its just I always thought of Magicka as some energy type that spellcasters wielded to form spells. Just saying this energy form does not exist and they randomly make fire burst from their hands every 3 seconds seems, well stupid in comparison. It would be nice for something fresh, a new way to do magick, because basically everyone does it this way, but unfortunately this system does not appeal to me. And any new system would have to be really, really good, in order for me to accept it over teh tried adn tested sysytem of magicka/mana pool.

And bows will have unlimited arrows!

I say mana because mana is the generic term, and the current system, though some claim it is exclusive to tes, is in fact a generic system. I agree that if they did something different it would have to be really good, and I'm not trying to imply what I suggested is in any way superior to the current system, merely that the current system is just that...generic. Tes has always done magic far better than any other RPG, but I still find spamming potions and refilling magicka to be a relic.

Who need a bow when gun is better?

Yes, yes. Strawmen are fun.

It's not anywhere near as ridiculous of an idea as people are implying.

Problem with magicka in TES is that it's the only significant limitation on stronger spells. This could be fixed with or without keeping the mana pool in there - it depends on what else they do.

Another problem is that mages have a finite resource with which to deal damage with, or infinite if they use potions. That's a pretty bad balance between two extremes.

I'd say the most simple solution would be to up passive regen a bit at lower levels so mages don't feel like they have gaps between being able to do anything. Then make potions longer in duration keeping the limit of 3 at one time, and make similar effects overwrite eachother so you can't have 3 regen magicka potions rolling while you spam, or 3 regen health making you near invincible. This +longer casting time for stronger spells(affected by skill level of course) and I think magic would be in a pretty good place without putting any of the change fearing TES fans on red alert.

Are you stocking me because you didnt like my suggestion?

No cry babies please.

Get a life and keep my name out of your mouth.

:lmao:

Lighten up, i was just illustrating your point.

Your mage is pathetic, see power only in bottles, born as Atronach and absorb magic use drain Magicka on enimies to take more and strike with weapon that will drain last Magicka from they lifeless bodies, fortify your Magicka pool with artifacts and enchants, wait or sleep for restoration Magicka reserves.
In oblivion Magicka regenerating overtime and there was limit to consuming potions at one time
With mods even bigger variations of restore Magicka will be consume souls from Soul Gems, sacrifice some of health to fire up magic and more and more.
Your idea is better to be implemented in mod.

A solution is to make restore magicka potions more rare and more difficult to create, or at least good quality ones that restore a lot.

And make them heal over time, and not instantly like it was in Oblivion.

ALL player made potions worked over time.

Cool, but not the non-player-made potions.

Eh, I liked potions being a little easier to find/make - the problem, I think, is just that they end up restoring too much too quickly and they can stack. If you svcked down 3 easy to make restore health and/or magicka potions in Oblivion and your red and/or blue bar basically became impossible to bring down.

I'd like longer duration potions with less powerful effects. This way combat doesn't feel too "potion chuggy" while potions would still remain powerful and useful due to having greatly extended durations - like most potion effects would last you the time it takes to clear out a small-medium size dungeon. Would also make life a bit easier for characters without a lot of healing capabilities.

I much prefer the Oblivion approach to magic. I've always believed the idea of "mana" was a parallel to stamina. When you do physical activity, you become tired and hence you're stamina bar went down to represent this. It's the same with Mana, as you perform magical tasks such as spells, you're "spiritual fatigue" drains reducing the mana bar. I do prefer Morrowind's approach to magical failures, instead of each spell always working provided you have the magical prerequisite (skill needed, and the magic to cast) i liked how each spell had it's own success rate depending on a number of factors like fatigue, skill, and magnitude of the spell. A fireball spell may have a 75% of succeeding if you are well rested, yet in a battle you may only have a 50% chance of succeeding.

Which were very expensive and in short supply. I'd say it's balanced in that respect because if bought potions were the same as player made, why buy?

Aside from potions, isn't this pretty much how it works now, with regen replacing rate of fire? You can cast a big spell less frequently because it takes longer to recover the magicka. The major difference would be that you could fire your strongest attack spell as fast as you're allowed without considering that you might need the magic for healing or something else.

I actually prefer http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VancianMagic (D&D style). It requires a whole other level of planning and decision-making that's simply unnecessary with mana-based magic. Doubly so if the pre-prepared spells require rare and expensive reagents or components.

I remember them being somewhat common.

Not a great idea imho. Never run out of juice= broken game mechanics. Everybody gets tired

Yeah the ones that restore 20 or 50 were quite common but since you could only take 3 every 5 min they are practically worthless compared to player made potions.

The mana pool is the only thing keeping this as an rpg, the minute you get rid of that I remodel my hands to look like quake rocket launchers and start spamming fireballs.

D&D does not use mana. Does it not count as an RPG?

agreed the magic and casting should not be messed with

No.

What they need to do is lower the magicka cost for certain spells, or add a perk that's something like "1/2 Magicka Cost"

Huh? Magicka in Oblivion was already extremely abundant. Never mind the absolutely insane Magicka regeneration you normally have, you could easily produce hundreds of Restore Magicka potions with little or no effort, giving you virtually unlimited Magicka.