Homefront was doomed from beggining, the second it was born in the mind of it's creator. It was doomed to fail.

Personally, it seems to me that aside from the abilities that are there to directly help your team, the engineer is entirely support-based in nature. I don't consider that to be overpowered, especially when the other team can do the same thing, lol.

Operative honestly doesn't seem like they have as much to do though. I think people will begin to step away from using them a lot as time goes by.

haha dr.ricktofen that is so true about homefront....i bought it one day.....next day traded it in worst buy ever

I think from early on they said no one is going to be the lone hero in game or in the story..

I still laugh at my freinds who bought it, i said from when i first saw it, its a rip off of battlefield and COD.

haha thats funny i thought the idea of the game was cool but the game itself was just.....terrible lol

Exactly. Engineer is mainly a support class, but unlike Medics their support comes in the form of building, repairing, and defusing things. It's not overpowered in the slightest.

What people may not realize is that Soldiers have a lot of things they can be blowing up, and on top of that they are also mobile ammo boxes. Medics have the whole healing and reviving thing, which should keep them plenty busy. And Operatives have a multitude of ways in which they work with and against the other classes. Plenty of things to hack, plenty of dead bodies to get radar and disguises from, plenty of things you could be EMP'ing, etc.

I think that answers that.

And Operatives spot mines and can mark them for other teammates to avoid/disarm.

There are a lot of reasons Operatives will be useful in Brink.

not a huge fan of the fact that there are no Medic objectives, and I think the Engie has a little too many.

And, like Obliviondoll said before me, spotting mines and stuff.

I'm sooooooooo glad I'm going for Medic and Soldier--much easier to keep track of. The other classes feel like they are going to be a bit of a pain for me personally to memorize their tasks, lol. I mean, I sometimes forget what to do in Call of Duty games and Killzone 2, imagine me doing the non-Medic/non-Soldier classes in Brink, lol! For example, I can definitely see myself going like this: "Oh, I forget, who can disarm mines? Was it Engineer or Operative? But wait, Operative can spot them, but only Engineers can disarm them? Wait, who can hack--ah, Operative, no,...wait, Engineer, no, wait! Wait, who has EMP'ing, Operative or Engineer, who has mines, wait Operative have sticky bombs, aaaaaahhhhhhh! :ahhh: :lmao:

You completely missed the VIP missions, I guess.

Kinda funny, all the conflicts the Neer and Operative are gonna be having. Like Itchy & Scratchy.

Also, did that pistol look burst-fire to anybody else?

Haha, he called it the neer.
Even with all the engie objectives, day 1 we will see the horde of orange light operatives sporting The Anger.

Which is why I'll be playing through both campaigns first, give Operatives a chance to disperse into the other classes. Also I am a fellow fan of Cave Johnson. :thumbsup:

I love all the Engineer tasks actually. It appropriately gives more XP to those who work more behind the scenes to support their teammates.

Also, I will NEVER be bored.

Yeah, I can see how Engineer is going to be an annoyance to enemy Operatives and Engineers, lol.

I was watching the video and giggled at the floating box item when the dude died and the way the dudes get incapacitated(is that what it's called)/died, hee. :hehe:
It's stuff like that (funny animations, etc) that amuses me so in games. ^_^ Why, yes, I AM easily amused.

They're only a medic objective when the VIP is incapacitated, aren't they? And anyway, they're not on every map.

Yeah, that's the thing---VIP missions are not going to be on every map, are they?

Well, the Medics will still have "Yo! Revive dead teammates nearby" consistently [inevitably] coming up from time to time, lol.

Without question.

And "buff this guy, he needs it" objectives on all the people of whatever class is needed for the current objective, probably.

Also, Medics will get "buff VIP" objectives as well as the "revive VIP" one when he's incapped. And as shown in the video, they'll have to re-buff his health once he's been incapped (which seems to support the theory that the same situation will be true for players)

I don't think Medics are supposed to be so obsessed with objectives; technically, from Splash Damage's point of view, every person on your team who isn't at full health is an objective for the Medic. Good Medics will never bother with the Objective Wheel since they should automatically know what to do to best serve their squad. They will get tons of XP for that, especially if they are guarding an objective with teammates (you get XP for guarding, XP for shooting the bad guys, and XP for keeping your teammates up).


By the same token Operatives will be freakin' irritating with their turret-hax, mine-marking, and EMP 'nades...

But I'm very happy that Engineers and Operatives have this complex, intertwined combat-support-role relationship. You can have Soldiers and Medics be pretty straightforward with shooting and healing each other, but then there's an epic shadow-dance between Engineers and Operatives for those seeking a little more complicated challenge to the game.


I did http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FascinatingEyebrow upon seeing that can just float in half-gravity back to the ground.


Easily amused people are the most fun kind of people. I am one. And so we go back to http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FascinatingEyebrow. :lmao:

I noticed that as well, that's pretty disappointing; I thought Heavies were supposed to be tanks :\

I have a feeling the Heavy body type will be the minority in Brink.

It does slightly disturb that only an engineer can disable a operative's hacking device. That seems like an ability that all classes should have access to since it regards the primary objective.

But only the Operative can plant it, and that's a primary objective too...

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1182911-unofficial-brink-poll/


Only an Operative can mark Engineer mines for allies to see on minimaps and avoid, and for allied Engineers to disarm. That sounds far more dumb not-smart to me.

At the very least, if you incapacitate all Operatives working on the hack, all you have to do is keep the Operatives from approaching the hackpad to re-initiate the hack and the effect is the same as removing the pad.

Wait, whaaaaaaaaat, enemy Operatives cannot disable Operative things? Oh, noes, another thing to think about if I'm ever forced to become one of those, lol! :ahhh:

Okay, okay. Phew. Take a deep breath, bunny-girl. Calm down. Just think:

Operatives = Splinter Cell :ninja: and Engineers = Borderlands-turret or some machine-obsessed geeky mechanic dude. :user:

And Enemy Engineers do this :brokencomputer: to any machine thing or Enemy Soldier do their bomb things :bomb_ie: (if I remember correctly---will have to re-watch again), lol.