There should be 2 dragons chasing you at the most, three is too many and then they would have to be weakened or scaled down

I think being chased by multiple dragons would be amazing, although chances are the AI would be kind of messy. Could you imagine your character high-tailing it from two oncoming dragons, when the one in back keeps bumping into the other one making him pause every few seconds and rotate in the air?

Hell yes! I don't want to be the destroyer of dragons, brutally clubbing every dragon that dares cross my path, I want to be afraid of them, and feel accomplished when I take one down. Being ganged up on by dragons would be awesome, your only chance of surviving being to run and hide, use your wits and separate them, or something.
If I end up just stomping the life out of every dragon I come across in Skyrim like they're no more than pests I'll be disappointed
Then I'll probably mod. . .

Two dragons can fight you at once?

I'm happy.

I guess if you want to fight many dragons, you could always just run until you find many dragons.

They probably won't let more than one or two spawn at a time.

I'm not sure where people got the idea that they removed the ability of more than one dragon to chase you. He specifically said that three is too many.

Oblivion, 3 Field Minotaurs and a Unicorn. I could handle the 3 minotaurs but the unicorn was just overkill.

Edit: On-topic. As one of the first commenters said, It made the game designer feel an emotion, Why would you remove that?! It's obviously a great occurrence. Besides the OP makes a great point, Not every battle you face in life are you supposed to take head on. Sometimes it's just better to just run the hell away.

Hell yes! And they should not be weakened. Pulls the best adrealine from your veins!

I want a challenge to, but not an unfair one that puts me in a situation where there's no hope of succeeding through no fault of my own, and being chased by three dragons at once could be argued to be such a situation, at least I hope it is, because one dragon is supposed to be a challenge, if three dragons isn't a situation where you have no chance to win on your own, then Bethesda didn't do dragons well.



Feeling an emotion is only a good thing if that's an emotion you actually want to feel while playing the game. If the emotion a situation invokes in you is the desire to smash your computer, then that is not a sign of good game design. Games are supposed to be entertaining, not aggravating, and yes, facing impossible odds is aggravating, when I face a situation I can't succeed in, I don't think "This is terrifying.", because I'm too busy thinking "I hate this [censored] game and don't want to ever see it again!"

And what do you do if there's nowhere to run to? You can't exactly outrun something that flies easily, your only hope to avoid a dragon is by finding somewhere to hide where it can't catch you and wait until it decides to leave you alone, and what if it doesn't leave you alone? If the AI is like Oblivion, then we'll be having enemies chase us half way across the province, creating situations where the only option to run is only a good design choice if it's actually possible to run away from enemies. And don't say since the AI has been improved, that won't happen. You don't know that, no one who doesn't work at Bethesda could know that. You might assume that, but that doesn't make it true.

You may say being attacked by multiple dragons at once is a good thing now, but will you say the same if you actually encounter that situation in the game? We're talking about what's essentially throwing three bosses at you at the same time here. That's the sort of thing you'd rarely see in classic Nintendo games, it's certainly not something I'd expect to see in the Elder Scrolls, which has never been the most challenging game I've ever played.

I think the player should be able to kill the dragons, and that is probably not possible if you are chased by three of them...

I voted yes, but with the caveat of being able (with difficulty) of getting the dragons to fight each other. :whisper:

You're over looking something simple and turning it into something its not. When i was level 2 i stumbled into the field with the 3 minotaurs and a unicorn and yeah i died, And that's never a good thing. But what was going through my mind wasn't me being aggravated, It was more along the lines of 'Holy crap that was epic' same thing happens to me when I can be playing Halo with a buddy or two and we get attacked by the entire enemy team, I don't think oh this is dumb i think EPIC SHOOT OUT. Same general concept, If i was being chased by 3 dragons i'd thinking holy [censored] this is intense!

If you get aggravated from a GAME then you're missing the point of playing a GAME.

Edit: Also, You've never had an issue with aggravation in elder scrolls games? Have you ever heard of Cliff Racers? No? I'd take 3 dragons over 10 cliff racers any day. At least it's much less likely to run into 3 dragons.

If you want it, someone will surely mod it in for you I think it sounds amazing as well, just the feeling of running through the forests with three dragons on your tail sounds incredible. Buuuuuuuut some players would stop up and try to fight, then fail and re-load and try again, and so on. Then in the end they would quit the game and think that it was terrible and unbalanced But as I said I think it sounds really cool, so yea, someone will mod it in

Getting chased by multiple Dragons is going to be a lot of fun and annoyance if they kill you.

it should be rare, but definitely should be possible. What would be even cooler is if two dragons started to fight each other after they lose track of you.

i agree there should at least be 1 or two nearly hopeless situations

"Different races of dragons are encountered throughout Skyrim, either alone or in small groups" source wikipedia

sounds awesome :celebration:

Well you seem to be well versed in the powergaming for someone who is so sarcasticly hating on it. Besides it is a single player game what do you care what someone else does with their copy?

That being said. Hell yes. Bring on the multiple dragons. For all any of us know the dragons have different difficulty levels built in individually to each of them. Todd has already stated there will be different types of dragons.

1 dragon = Difficult. A big challenge. Miniboss. Takes several minutes to beat.
2 dragons = 2 Minibosses simultaneously. Borderline impossible for those not powergaming to the extreme.
3 dragons = Flat out impossible to everyone except the most dedicated powergamers.

Keep in mind that difficulty doesn't necessarily rise linearly when adding enemies but more likely increases exponentially, meaning that adding one dragon might make the battle three, four times harder. Battles against one dragon are supposed to be close affairs, you're at risk all the time.

Fear is admittedly an important emotion in games but has to be coupled with catharsis when you overcome what caused it. Three dragons would not give you opportunity for that, leaving you with the negative emotional part of the experience with no payoff in the form of succeeding in something.

In addition sitting in a cave until they leave would be boring as hell. You may be lucky and enter an expansive dungeon that can keep you entertained but the odds are probably against that.

Being chased by 2 dragons on very very very rare occasions would be nice I think. 3 is too much.

But who's to say dragons should always be possible to beat?

Personally, at the start of the game when your character is a low level I think it should be near-impossible to beat dragons regardless of how many there are. Early encounters with dragons at the start of the game should be about evasion and survival.

I agree with not being able to slay a dragon until about level 15-20. I am thinking 3 would be an awesome battle for a top end character 50-70. I would love to see the radiant system implement a random battle like that. Using your perks and skills to the full potential. Dragonshouts flying everywhere. Good battle. Anyone think we will be able to loot the corpses? Would love to see some dragonbone crafting material.

As to powergaming. I don't really see nothing wrong with it. It is a game of freedom and choice. There will always be a way to be powerful in TES. I DO think it will be harder this time. I believe that several perks are going to make up for the removal of attributes via hidden damage modifiers. Not pleased with the perk system so I will definately be avoiding the hidden modifiers whenever possible

The corpses of dragons turn to dust apparently.

Oh well. Here's to hoping they put in a taxidermy sidejob. Dragonscale rug for my shanty!