Getting drunk was fun in Red Dead Redemption. It should be something similar to that. But longer lasting depending on what and how much you have drunk.

I think you should be able to pop down the bar/tavern and have a cheeky pint with your companion.
Or get a member of the guard really drunk, so they let you out of prison.
Or get important information off someone who is really hard to persuade by getting them drunk.

I hope it's in. Simply because a staggering, big wall of meat, swinging a gigantic 2 handed axe in a drunken rage is much more intimidating than an amiable looking Nord (Amiable? Nord? OXYMORON!) hiccuping a couple times in conversation and then fighting with perfect grace.

Getting drunk was good for a quick laugh in games like RDR. It could add a lot to the atmosphere of the game if there were drunk NPC's stumbling around.

My character is a Nord. Thats the reason my guy doesn't get drunk =D

exactly - TES should be able to pull it off like nothing

I fully intend to roleplay a (partial) alcoholic. It's the natural progression from spending so much time and effort stocking my wine cellar in OB, and playing 80% of New Vegas with Cass, as I thought the Whiskey rose Perk was really cool. Really hope we have NV bark scorpion poison, or Bioshock style, screen blurring. The Drunken Master is dead, long live the Drunken Altmer Enchantress, accidentalfireballs and alll.

i too stocked my oblivion houses with the finest of alcoholic beverages...and was disappointed that i couldnt get drunk and oaf around said houses because it was just normal walking :sadvaultboy:

Inebriation effects have to be included so console players without mods can...enjoy them too. And there should be drunk NPCs too.

reminds me of the witcher

Same here- I usually play as skooma addict (every day started with bottle of skooma)
Sometimes ate raw moon sugar (in TES3)
In desperate times (skooma is hard to get) my character (combat alchemist, btw) brews potions that mimics skooma effects
Tasted nothing like skooma, but did a trick
:unsure: ahh, days filled with misery and shame, with desperation and guilt, but each bottle of skooma made me forget about it for a while
Is it strange, that I look for this to return in Skyrim ?

Anyway alcohol should have some effect, more than stat changing, it should slightly blur vision and even add unique dialogues when drunk?
(just imagined how my dragonborn is hitting on old lady from screenshot :lmao: )
Also some quest could be started only if you drunk enough, passed out and ended up in middle of nowhere, naked, and without inventory and gold (on the other hand with this lame fast travel system, getting to nearest city takes just few clicks )
Alcohol should be reworked in Skyrim, for sure

in OB after drinking there was a icon on the top of the screen that showed that your fatigue/ intellegence or what ever was being drained. that is the TES equivilant of being drunk. how ever, if you the screen to get blurry and that kind of stuff why don't you go play fable.

Interesting logic. So if we want to get drunk we should play Fable. If we wanted to use crossbows we should also play Fable?
What about romance? Also Fable? Buy houses? Fable? Craft items? Again Fable?
It seems you haven't played other games, besides Fable. Like Buldurs Gate, Arcanum, Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age, Witcher, etc.
There is a lot of good games out there you know, and in most cases we take ideas from them.
And Fable is not THAT bad. It is even occasionally fun.

I like the idea of being able to get drunk in the game, The Witcher did a great job on that one. You're in a tavern and order some ale you should experience the results. The more you drink the harder it gets to control where you're walking and what you're seeing.

But I really like your comment about NPC's getting drunk too and I'm not talking an NPC that is always staggering around and is never sober, It should be real easy to turn any sober NPC into stages of drunken animation. Then this could be incoporated into another alternate quest solution.

Say, you're trying to get inside a building, do you bribe the guard, spank him, or get him so drunk he staggers off or passes out ? YESSS.

This might be nice as a way to try and get information from someone instead of bribing them, maybe for some NPC's bribing gets better info or getting them drunk does.

TES equivalent? I don't think it's some kind of standard. I think it would be for the game's best to add a more noticeable effect. Anyway if the developers for some reason decide not to add the effects I'm not going to go play something like Fable, I'm just getting a mod for the PC version to fix it.

the point is that full on drunken disorientation has been done in other games and they did not contribute very much than a couple of moments of amusemant... or not. imo it would be stupid for the devs to waste their time on adding old features from old games. not a critisizm on fable, just recomending it if thats what makes or breaks your enjoyment of an rpg.

EDIT: a mod is probably the best way to go. like I said, i think its in the game's best interest if they added game features that gave far more gamplay than occasionally having blurred vision.

Well attributes are fundamental and can be used for such things too bad thats affect only other games and modded TES games, in vanilla attributes lose ties with other parameters and skills, since devs decide to remove attributes and merge their effects with parameters thats will be interesting to see how it was done, but certain no need stop in past need move furtherer and adapt to new system, who know maybe thats really will be evolution instead of degradation, we will know answer only after play game.
I hope there will be starting traits thats represent natural abilities of character, and there is still be hidden variables thats previously was used in attributes mechanic and they can be manipulated in game and with scripts, I believe they not remove mechanic just hide it and merge it so fundamentals still here even if they are invisible ghosts.

Well attributes system is good system if implemented well seems you don't see ties between attributes and skills because of flawed implementation of such ties in last games, for example if ties was good reducing an attribute will decrease all skills thats depend on such attribute at once so drunkenness will reduce ability to think well, reduce coordination (skills thats depend on speed and agility will suffer from penalty to speed and agility) as well increase aggression thats fortify Strength and can work as painkiller so fortify Health, certain intoxication level will also bring negative post effects like hangover after drunkenness effect wear off.

With certain work such drunkenness can be implemented in Skyrim if mechanic still in game just merged and hidden.
You need understood thats not Attributes system was bad, implementation of system was bad, its the same as say thats leveling was bad and don't understood thats leveling was flawed in implementation but not bad as feature, reducing features instead of fixing them is really problem, sometimes better improve feature then axe it completely from game.
Problem in removing of attributes in
- Reduced RPG and gameplay mechanic of game
- Easy manageable mediator between many different individual effects
- Reduced variability of possibilities for modders since attributes was fundamental feature
- Increased genericness of characters thats have almost no individual traits.

If new system will have has a solution for this question have equal to attributes parameters thats will be really good and I'm OK with thats, most of us debate not because of removed attribute statistic screen with points, but because of horrible consequences for mechanic of game if attributes was removed completely and nothing was equal was not created, since thats not just numbers they are fundamental details in model.

It would be funny if beyond a certain point all drunken attacks become power attacks :ahhh:

yeah your right...they shouldnt put dragons in either...thats for dragon age. They should stick to choppy unrealistic movements to because thats how the tes way is in previous games...in fact why make a game at all? why would anyone want improvements? They should leave out cooking and the more realistic npcs....i mean getting realistic must be the complete opposite of bethesdas goal....Seriously dude you should get some brain cells...because apparently you drink too much in reality :down:

Isn't there a potion limit? So you can't quaff too many meads in one go anyway

Yes, I will be getting drunk while playing this game. Of course, you should be of age...

Haha, nice kidding.

Yeah, you should be able to drink like, a lot of mead in Skyrim! And then similar effects to what we have seen in Bulletstorm.

Actually drunkenness is mean thats you quaff potions over your limit, what describe such limit? What create such limit and what govern it?
I think adding alchemy based safe limit for intoxication thats mean your character train self for resist intoxication by drinking potions and take small doses of poisons from raw ingredients during wortcraft as part of alchemy skill will increase such safe limit thats not add overdose side effects, but if you are strong enough (depend on sum of maximum fatigue + maximum health minus current health and fatigue versus cost of potion as or another parameters to decide magnitude of potion)
your body by self can resist parts of sided effects another part will have reduced duration of overdose or withstand effects because of high health and fatigue just like Nord warriors on drinking contest in tavern :wink_smile:
So we come to this
Leveling of alchemy skill can increase number of safely quaffed potions without overdose directly from skill level or from perks and by default it equal one potion all over this first potion will add overdose effect thats can be resisted by strong body or trained body so all rogues, warriors and mages have own ways deal with potions.

I believe such system much more logical then unlimited quaffing from Morrowind and limited and not described how and why Oblivion quaffing, does not?

it should be made that depending on your level of drunkenness (is that a word??) you should start to lose control or your actions. depending on your karma, the AI will carry out things on your person (like forcing them to fight or having barmaid's give you that wink)

I'm hoping there's some way of poisoning/spiking someone's drink to make them act intoxicated. This would be even better if the guards then escorted that person to a prison cell!!

I liked what GTA games made with alcool and drug intoxication. There were funny sounds and wierd screen effects and your character wouldn't always move straight. This was a lot funny!