1. I don't do drugs so no comment.

2. I eat meat to heal so hadn't notice this.

3. I get double meat, not double guns.

4. Only 5th rank is broken.

5. Hadn't use yet.

6. Never been there.

7. Doesn't for me. The settler used it just fine when in combat.

8. Never happened to me.

9. Completely not sure as I hadn't experience these stuff...

Then again, I'm just one of the lucky ones.

I guess a lot of us just don't care much. It's an old community and has weathered many storms. This is tempest in a teapot you are stirring. You are supposed to let tea steep eh'.

They'll fix it. It breaks nothing, continue with your ....

Breaks nothing for you maybe, it trivializes the game for everyone who uses VATS, which whether some like it or not has a bunch of perks dedicated to it and is the focus of many character builds.

Even if you Fix Main Problems the Game will be far away from being Perfect. You show the same Mentality, but like i said its more a Community Problem as an Developer Problem. I see many people saying "Modders will do it" or " Ey the Game runs, no need for Patches at all". This is just wow. Its like please make more Bugs, we can handle this too. So long my Character can walk. I mean dont take thsi personal or something its just sad how the Mentality goes. We paid them Millions of Dollars to make copy/paste Bug-Games, and we dont even care. Is it really impossible to fix some of the Bugs. I know iam not talking about the OP's Bugs but i just see the Mentality of some People here about Patching and improving the Vanilla Game.

ROTFLMFAO. I have said VATS is cheating, then withdrew that after good advice. Now, I really don't care at all.

VATS is an intended mechanic in the game, therefore by definition: not cheating.

For me it is, I am dominating the game on Survival without it. I have never used it in well over a thousand hours of Fallout 3D play. Yup, all three of em'.

Are you honestly telling me that you expect Perfection and that every single little thing that YOU don't like be crafted by the developers to your specifications?

Honestly. You can't get more entitled than that. Many 10's of thousands of us paid $60-$100 US for this game with the understanding that it would not be perfect and probably never would be. We understood that there are hundreds of thousands of lines of code running at the same time and that there may be some glitches and issues. We understood that it was a Bethesda Game and that it would be glitchy and that modders would be modding the heck out of it from the day of release.

Those of us who play on console are more than happy that it simply runs well without the huge issues we have faced with Skyrim and with a number of other AAA games released recently.

We can handle it. We know there will be bugs. We know that there will be patches and we also realize that it will take time.

That is life. It will not always work exactly the way that I want it to but I have faith that Beth will do it's best to address the issues that are affecting large swaths of their users.

Yes. Bugs are irritating sometimes. But they are there.

For me PA is cheating and I'm dominating the game on survival without it. This argument is pointless.

I used to be a professional game tester, I know what im talking about. We all have the exact same game bugs aren't unique to anyone. Most of these bugs are known to the modders just check reddit. The fact you think that people shouldn't be held accountable for poor performance is ridiculous.

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FYI, OP, the Wasteland Survival Guide perk works just fine at providing double meat from animal kills. If you have a problem with it, the problem is solely with your game and system.

As for claims that perk issues effect everyone, obviously they don't. Nor do companion issues. Why not? Simple, really. Many players never use those perks or companions so never have any trouble at all. This means that the game they play works perfectly fine as far as those topics because that content is something that has no bearing on their gameplay whatsoever.

Oh, that was my last playthrough. He's parked at level 65 for being OP. My new guy is level 15 and just about to unlock Ballistic Weave. I have a Power Armor collection, old habits die hard, but I've use one once, for one mission.

PA is a part of the game that does not hold your hand, like VATS does.

PA doesn't hold your hand? It makes deathclaws hit like kittens, it's atleast as OP as VATS if not more. If you enjoy playing with it go for it sure, but don't pretend it's not OP.

Well, that is most certainly not what I said

What I said was:

a. a lot of what OP has observed, I have not observed, and the few things I have noted that were similar might be a result of semantic errors in the code for Survival (i.e., typos that do not cause runtime errors, but result in "wrong information" being displayed or used by the application).

b. posting about such bugs here in these boards and expecting (as OP and others have let on they expect) it lead to fixes by the developers it not the best way to go about things (if getting the supposed bugs fixed is the actual objective)

c. using denigrating language like "broken" and "not even beta quality" and "full of bugs" and "lazy" is almost never going to be helpful in any circumstance

d. there are naturally standards of documentation that any sane developer or QA team must insist on from bug reporters

If you actually found bugs and you are actually frustrated because those bugs are real (meaning you are not being a histrionic drama queen/troll) then you honestly have my empathy. But I cannot say I've had the same experience AT ALL. To me it is a suprisingly "bug free" game, though there are functionalities that are "rough around the edges" and limitations that are somewhat disappointing.

The response to these entirely valid points by me seems so far to have been to accuse me of ad hominem, to accuse me of "defending laziness" and/or to chock any such comments under a label of "broken community full of members who refuse to grab their pitchforks and storm the castle."

You do realize how ridiculous that sounds right?

If you really do have what you think are bugs, then do the proper procedure to report the damn things and move on. A thread here to see if others are experiencing it and/or commiserate is one thing, but a thread that is obviously intended to either troll or flamebait is just stupid, and the thread probably should've already been locked just based on the content of the OP . . .

Um their was a nuclear war, of course everything is broken, all the windows, doors, cars, everything. Did you think people were thinking of resale value when they got hit with a 30 gigaton nuclear bomb?

Nobody said not to hold anyone accountable. The point is that you cannot expect perfection and complete kowtowing and pandering for immediate gratification from any company of individual. Give it time. Know what you are purchasing and know what to expect.

BTW: You're paying attention to something on Reddit? That immediately disqualifies you from ever posting anything on the internet ever again. Reddit? Really?

At high levels it is. I parked it because of that. It's always the same in any Fallout game, at a certain point I'm OP and roll another char. Been doing this for a long time. VATS is a thing I will never use as I consider it cheating to pause the game and let it kill stuff for you. I do my own killing thank you.

VATS is pretty underpowered in low levels in survival up to the point you unlock most of the critical perks, faster AP regeneration etc. I had to shoot stuff normally mostly until the build came together, at around lvl 30 or so?

Sure, you bet. I wouldn't know and I'll never find out.

Honestly, Bethesda rarely cares about bugs which benefits the player like this. Bethesda's patching crew is more focused on the harmful bugs and are trying to replicate the ones which are harder to find (due to how different everyone plays the game). They're not gonna release a quick small patch with only just one or two fixes that fixes bugs which didn't even harm the player... They are going to wait until they got a huge list of bugs down and fixed before releasing a patch.

The last time I've saw copy/pasting in a Bethesda game was Oblivion, which was 2006. Just saying. Bethesda has dropped the copy/pasting method a long time ago. (At best, their games may use similar models/textures).

What you say may very well be true, what irks me is how easy it is to fix this particular one, along with Big Leagues (and iirc some other perks with wrong values assigned to them that escape my memory atm). It would literally take minimal effort.

Other stuff like for instance the TVs making settlements food/bed values 0 when you fast travel away from them could in fact be very hard to fix and it's totally understandable that it takes time, the same applies to other bugs. No one expects all of this to be fixed overnight, but I simply can't believe that no-one spared the time to change a couple of values in the .esm and include it in the last patch.

And that is your choice, and a perfectly valid one. I wish you never encounter a bug that takes all the fun out of the build you spent hours creating.

Wow. I came off almost 2 years of ESO. "Hours" is very funny.

I've played eve online for 9 years now... I know the feeling.

Usually the first patch is just to take care of anything major that needs addressing quickly. The second patch would most likely have all of these fixes that you've mentioned.