I'm not talking about the economic aspect

I'm talking about the absence of a humble shack/cabin for beginners and the necessity to get involved into petty quests to get it.

First, unlike Oblivion, there's no option to buy a small abode for beginners. While getting enough money to buy a fully fledged house is not a problem, it may be a problem to get it early enough to avoid wandering around with the inventory almost full. So, bar starting the MQ, the other option is to visit the major big town and get involved into petty quests, sometimes very specific ones. (Riften being the worst in this regard). Paying up front is not an option because all the Jarls and their stewards always need some idiot for their mundane tasks. Never mind that I carry enough gold to buy and equip a full army...

Joining a faction is not an option either. With the sole exception of the mage guild, you're not given a safe harbor (and safe containers, above all!) by anyone else.

How difficult it was to implement at least ONE house that could be purchased right from the beginning with no prerequisites ?

If you can't farm together 5000 you don't deserve a house to begin with.

5k for the whitrun house wasn't that bad...

I just wish you could buy your house without permission...

Septims should be enough right?

I don't know what to tell you. I haven't tried to buy a house yet.

FYI, if there is anyone looking to make good money really quick, join the DB. They pay well, much better than the Thieves Guild.

I don't see your problem, you can buy a house literally less than 30minutes into the MQ and never touch it again after. Even from an RP perspective you could just shrug off what the thane says and carry on with what you're doing..

Must agree with the negative answers. That 5k comes quite fast to your little pockets. In fact, you can get that house without selling your mom somewhat faster than you can get one in most similar games. (like, let's say, a Fable game, in which it takes more time unless you farm gold as a freaking rockstar lute player)

It would have been good to get a permanent room at the Sleeping Giant in Riverwood, like the Ayleswell Inn in Oblivion. Or maybe something along the lines of the White Stallion Lodge.

Skyrim's houses are disappointing anyway. I'm going to need at least 20 more bookshelves and 40 more armor mannequins...yay for mods.

Did you read my post? I said gold IS NOT the problem. At a certain point I had 50K+ and I did not even touch any quest.

The point is NO house, no shack, not even a damn permanent room at a inn is available without getting involved in (sometimes lengthy and annoying) quests

I'm sure there will be a "shack" mod, Beth can't put everything into the game to please everyone.

Unless you are deliberately avoiding the starting mainquest stuff, the requirements to get the Whiterun house are not onerous in any way.

If you are deliberately avoiding the bare minimum starting mainquest stuff (not even killing that first dragon really?), then you represent a tiny tiny minority of the playerbase.

Breezehome, despite its convenience being next to the blacksmith stuff.. is living in squalor.. it IS a modest house for beginners.

He didn't say it was hard to get the money for a house, he said you couldn't get one with out having to activate some quest that you might not wish too.

For instance, the cheepest house which requires you to activate the main quest, like I don't want too yet.

Really though?

Do dragons even frickin' appear in the game before you do the thing that lets you buy the Whiterun house? For me they didn't (played to lvl 15 before doing any mainquest stuff, saw no dragons, even at the spots on the map marked with a dragon symbol).

Are you able to learn the words if you didnt start the main quest?

I'm level 20 and haven't even fought a dragon yet. One thing is for sure though and that is that a dragon will never be my most greatest kill. I've already done that and it was in this game.

Yeah I was able to get a word from the wall but since there were no dragons I couldn't unlock them




I totally understand this, and I know it's fun to deliberately go against dev intentions in the game. But to deliberately go against the intentions of the developers and try to do something bizarre, and then complain you aren't being catered to in regards to housing just seems silly.

Here we go again, some one wanting something for nothing.


Look at it this way. Why should they let you buy a house? You just barely escaped being executed and now brings the news that dragons are alive again. For all they know you might be bat[censored] insane and one sore toe from impaling someone and wearing them as a hat. Ofcourse you would have to prove yourself.

Because having a empty house in your city generates no tax income at all, and cost them money in the end, since a empty broken house lowers the house value of the other houses around it.

OP is not asking for the house in Whiterun without the quest, he is asking for a shack anywhere without a quest.

But look at it this way:

Central thing of Skyrim is Dragons.

You don't get dragons without also unlocking the Whiterun house.

What % of the population is going to deliberately play the game in a way that avoids the main thing about it, while also really wanting a shack (aka packrat people)? Maybe the guy who made this thread and like 12 other people.

I avoided the MQ until lvl 15, and of course also totally avoided dragons. But I never at any point felt like I needed permanent storage.

It is a bit silly. As for myself, I've been trugging along nearly encumbered through out most of my experience so far. It's about time I look for a house. Not sure about marriage though. I already got unintentionally engaged and that didn't go so well...

Well, there is a house that you can use in riverwood, no? I think its safe to store things there. I think. So probably that replaces the "shack"

The first house, in whiterun, only requires you to spend ~10 minutes into the MQ.

LMAO.

Got to love the idiots who fail to comprehend anything the OP plainly typed up, and then give a response that directly conflicts with it as well.

Oh, I love you, Internet.