Ghoul Redesign? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:13 am

Just caught the scans. They're the same Ghouls as Fallout 3.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:37 am

Yeah, I'm not seeing any difference. They look to be identical to the FO3 design to me. It looks like Obsidian is using the feral model for some of the civilized ghouls now, but that's about it. (Which, incidentally, is a great idea. Now seeing the shape of a feral ghoul in the distance will hopefully give players pause. Is it a feral? Or is it a civilized NPC?)

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:47 am

I guess we can all agree the OP is seeing [censored].

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:23 pm

Looked at the picture again and I dunno if they're redesigned but they look different cause... They have no hair... Not a single one of them...
Raul will be special in F:NV as he's the only ghoul with hair.
All other ghouls will envy him and hunt him cause of their jealousy.
What?
It's possible.
The ghouls are in freakin' [spoiler]-suits ready to take off in a [spoiler], possibly to [spoiler].
Anythings possible!!! (sadly...)
(They better have a reaaaaaaally good explanation for the ghouls doing the same thing as the [spoiler] did in [spoiler].)

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:40 am

Looked at the picture again and I dunno if they're redesigned but they look different cause... They have no hair... Not a single one of them...
Raul will be special in F:NV as he's the only ghoul with hair.
All other ghouls will envy him and hunt him cause of their jealousy.
What?
It's possible.
The ghouls are in freakin' [spoiler]-suits ready to take off in a [spoiler], possibly to [spoiler].
Anythings possible!!! (sadly...)
(They better have a reaaaaaaally good explanation for the ghouls doing the same thing as the [spoiler] did in [spoiler].)

Raul didn't have hair in his screenshot, just in the concept art.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:42 am

Raul didn't have hair in his screenshot, just in the concept art.

His screenshot is one of the oldest ones and looks like a run of the mill F3 Ghoul. He should have the mustache and hair by now.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:04 pm

Raul didn't have hair in his screenshot, just in the concept art.

Uh-huh, and we can be certain that the one in the screenshot is not a placeholder because?
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Seriously, I can't trust another video or screenshot until the game has come out.
Anything could be a placeholder. *horror movie music starts playin'*

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:07 pm

Uh-huh, and we can be certain that the one in the screenshot is not a placeholder because?

The concept art predates the screenshot, it was just shown later (they have to, you know, design the jumpsuit before creating it in game), plus, the face shown in the concept art can easily be created with the Fallout 3 facegen, and in fact, was probably took from it.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:47 am

The concept art predates the screenshot, it was just shown later (they have to, you know, design the jumpsuit before creating it in game), plus, the face shown in the concept art can easily be created with the Fallout 3 facegen, and in fact, was probably took from it.

But, so what if the concept art predates the screenshot?
I'm sure they had a lot to work on so by the time they decided to show raul they hadn't completed his appearance and showed his placeholder instead.
They surely had concept art for the super mutants as well and we've seen how they've been redesigned but even so we still got screenshots with placeholders in 'em.
Could be the same with Raul.
Until they release a new screenshot of him it's entirely possible for the first screenshot to be either placeholder or final cut.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:45 am

But, so what if the concept art predates the screenshot?
I'm sure they had a lot to work on so by the time they decided to show raul they hadn't completed his appearance and showed his placeholder instead.
They surely had concept art for the super mutants as well and we've seen how they've been redesigned but even so we still got screenshots with placeholders in 'em.
Could be the same with Raul.
Until they release a new screenshot of him it's entirely possible for the first screenshot to be either placeholder or final cut.

You're right in that we can't be completely sure it wasn't a placeholder but I ask you to consider that for the Super Mutants they had to modify animations, meshes and create new textures.
They had to do nothing of this for Raul, just to create a face with the GECK.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:00 am

You're right in that we can't be completely sure it wasn't a placeholder but I ask you to consider that for the Super Mutants they had to modify animations, meshes and create new textures.
They had to do nothing of this for Raul, just to create a face with the GECK.

Yeah.

But in that case. what a dike move to show awesome concept art then have him end up looking like that.
Bethesda had no problem in putting hair and a mustache on Desmond, can't be that hard for Obsidian to do the same to Raul.
So if the screenshot is his final appearance then I'm going to be really disappointed.

(Ok ok, I know that concept art actually looks better than the final product in a lot of cases but for Raul all they had to do was add hair and a mustache and tweak his face a little, the one in the screenshot looks nothing like the concept art. The screenshot's version looks really bland. The concept art's version really popped.)

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:50 am

Haha, ghouls are controlling the rocket factory! I knew it, it's the new Reservation!

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:56 am

Haha, ghouls are controlling the rocket factory! I knew it, it's the new Reservation!

It's not.

Reservation was too cool.
Repcon looks like it needs a really good explanation to even come across as something serious. (It looks goofy)

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:11 pm

It's not.

Reservation was too cool.
Repcon looks like it needs a really good explanation to even come across as something serious. (It looks goofy)

Indeed it does. But atleast it seem to use a similar concept, and I hope they don't [censored] it up!

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:58 am

I dunno, you're trading one form of extreme ghoul paranoia for another. HUMANS WILL KILL US ALL, LAUNCH THE NUKE! and THE END IS NIGH (AGAIN), WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE COMET TO OUR SALVATION! are both pretty out there, and both pretty setting appropriate. I like the former (much) better than the latter, from a concept standpoint, but I'm sure it will be well done in the final product.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:54 am

I just read the article and the ghouls look exactly the same. The space suits are an interesting change though.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:02 pm

It's not.

Reservation was too cool.
Repcon looks like it needs a really good explanation to even come across as something serious. (It looks goofy)

What's wrong with repcon?

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:36 am

What's wrong with repcon?

You haven't seen the pictures from @gamer?
Well the ghouls there are working on [spoiler] and they're wearing [spoiler], have several [spoiler spoiler] around them who seems [spoiler] and they might [spoiler] their [spoiler] to get to [spoiler] or some[spoiler] else.

Basically, I don't know if we can discuss them yet, so you'll have to search around for them for yourself.

I think it's safe to discuss them at [corrupt text] or [error - message corrupt].

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:18 am

You haven't seen the pictures from @gamer?
Well the ghouls there are working on [spoiler] and they're wearing [spoiler], have several [spoiler spoiler] around them who seems [spoiler] and they might [spoiler] their [spoiler] to get to [spoiler] or some[spoiler] else.

Basically, I don't know if we can discuss them yet, so you'll have to search around for them for yourself.

I think it's safe to discuss them at [corrupt text] or [error - message corrupt].

Why is it goofy though? Isn't it an abandoned rocket facility?

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:05 am

Why is it goofy though? Isn't it an abandoned rocket facility?

Can't tell you man.
Just think it looks.... Nah... I've said too much with "goofy" anyway.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:56 am

I hope the ghouls look like they do in http://www.falloutnow.de/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1457 picture.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:48 pm

/snip

02 "Play Nice" ?

Looks good, but still like a burn victim only this guy has been hunted by kids with green spray-cans.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:44 pm

For all you that somehow haven't figured it out, the Ghouls are trying to use the missiles (not a bad idea considering that it worked for Zefram Cochrane) to fly to space kind of like the Hubologists. If you read the dialogue in one of the pics, the Ghoul tells you that their true home is in the "Far Beyond".

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:58 am

/snip

We finally allowed to discuss the @gamer article?

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:51 am

We finally allowed to discuss the @gamer article?

You're not allowed to post a direct transcription or post links to scans. You can talk about it all you want. What you put up, Mr. Fish, is not allowed.