Ghoul Redesign? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:13 am

For those of you who have LEGALLY PURCHASED a copy of @Gamer and have seen the image of the Repcon ghouls, they appear to be non feral, but use a modified version of the feral ghoul model. So what do you think, does the change in design reflect the game as a whole, or just Repcon specifically?

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:37 am

I think I'd actually be pissed if they changed Betehsda's ghoul design.

I don't care if the supermutants are tinkered with but leave the ghouls alone I say.

Bethesda nailed them perfectly.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:38 am

Some of the Repconn ghouls are feral, some aren't.

» Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:15 pm

Yeah, I think some of them are like tamed Feral ghouls, so they don't attack you. There is a distinct difference between the ones with the suits and the ones that look like FO3's feral ghouls.

» Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:07 pm

Link to picture please?

» Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:12 pm

WTF is @gamer?

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:31 am

For once, NMA doesn't have any you-know-whats for the people that don't want to purchase a magazine for one article. I have to say that Bethesda's Ghoul design was pretty much perfect though since that seems to be a point of contention.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:19 am

WTF is @gamer?

Best Buy's gaming magazine. I do not know if they sell it in their stores, but you can subscribe online. However it appears from their website that you can only do yearly subscriptions for $20.00 rather than monthly fees.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:20 am

I think I'd actually be pissed if they changed Betehsda's ghoul design.

I don't care if the supermutants are tinkered with but leave the ghouls alone I say.

Bethesda nailed them perfectly.

No they didn't. Bethesda changed the way ghouls looked originally. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EhwKxXzWurzfsM:http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/2/2b/FO01_NPC_Set.png&t=1 was a ghoul of Fallout 1 and 2. They were hardly what Bethesda ended up with. Make no mistake. I am not griping about the direction Bethesda took ghouls with Fallout 3. I mean, to make each ghoul look remotely as disfigured as Set would have required a lot of effort and work. Taking the quicker, easier path of simply giving ghouls a basic human model with a different skin saved them loads of time and effort, I'm sure.

» Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:46 pm

I see ghouls in spacesuits and a glowing one, nothing NEW though.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:02 am

What does legal acquisition have to do with anything????

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:37 am

What does legal acquisition have to do with anything????

I'm pretty sure the OP was talking about purchasing the magazine instead of linking scans which is a big no no on this forum. Unless you're talking about Bethesda having the right to do whatever they want with Fallout staples? I'm just confused now :confused:

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:18 am

No they didn't. Bethesda changed the way ghouls looked originally. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EhwKxXzWurzfsM:http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/2/2b/FO01_NPC_Set.png&t=1 was a ghoul of Fallout 1 and 2. They were hardly what Bethesda ended up with. Make no mistake. I am not griping about the direction Bethesda took ghouls with Fallout 3. I mean, to make each ghoul look remotely as disfigured as Set would have required a lot of effort and work. Taking the quicker, easier path of simply giving ghouls a basic human model with a different skin saved them loads of time and effort, I'm sure.

I know what the classic ghouls look like and thats what I'm arguing against

FO3 ghouls are what ghouls should look like. Hideously skinless horrors.

The original ghouls much like the original supermutants are more funny and cartoony looking than actually creepy to me.

I genuinely feel bad for some of the ghouls in FO3 when I look at them whereas I just kind of want to laugh everytime I see Set's talking head.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:08 am

er...oooh boy i think i just noticed something, notice how theyre in space suits and theres rockets on the left (mostly cut out but you can tell theyre rockets)...and if you look in the e3 video with a bunch of rockets taking off and smashing into cars and stuff....ooh boy :nuke:

» Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:21 pm

I think I'd actually be pissed if they changed Betehsda's ghoul design.

I don't care if the supermutants are tinkered with but leave the ghouls alone I say.

Bethesda nailed them perfectly.

Except for the fact that Bethesda changed them from rotten disgusting walking corpses to burn victims...
The old games design were way better.
They're not suppose to look nice, they're supposed to be freaks of nature.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:16 am

Yeah the originals actually looked original. Also, I really do hope that the Super Mutants have been made to look like Marcus, it'd be pretty stupid to still have those ugly FO3 versions with that awful sneer.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:13 pm

I haven't seen any pics of the ghoul redesign, but it appears to be awesome. The original ghouls were really cool, scary and freaky looking. Original and totally something we haven't seen in real-life, but the FO3 ghouls we have - they're called burn victims. Well, at least I've seen people in real life looking like FO3 ghouls... minus the blue color some of them have.

» Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:29 pm

Judging from the latest ghoul screenshots it seems they haven't been changed at all from FO3

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:21 am

Honestly, I don't see any redesign. Yeah, there's a couple of ghouls that use the feral model, but the rest have the same model as in Fallout 3.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:06 pm

Yeah, I think some of them are like tamed Feral ghouls, so they don't attack you. There is a distinct difference between the ones with the suits and the ones that look like FO3's feral ghouls.

Nope. Look through the helmet, it is the same emaciated skull and the suits themselves imply a slimmer body model as well. Additionally, the talking head screencap confirms this. Ferals don't talk, yo.

Edit: It might just be a texture overhaul, but based on the heads in the suits as well as the talking head, something is decidedly different about these ghouls.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:08 am

The talking head screencap uses a similar model with similar textures just colored a little differently, from what I can see.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:42 am

I thought the FO3 feral ghouls looked incredible myself. I really liked them even if I still would like a closer face to the one Set had; but not necessarily for all ghouls ~they can't all have transformed with the exact same disfigurements and exposed bone.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:09 am

Nope. Look through the helmet, it is the same emaciated skull and the suits themselves imply a slimmer body model as well. Additionally, the talking head screencap confirms this. Ferals don't talk, yo.

Edit: It might just be a texture overhaul, but based on the heads in the suits as well as the talking head, something is decidedly different about these ghouls.

Are you referring to the Jason guy? Because he has the same head as FO3 ghouls, his body just might be skinnier, with new clothing. I don't see any other difference.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:28 am

I know what the classic ghouls look like and thats what I'm arguing against

FO3 ghouls are what ghouls should look like. Hideously skinless horrors.

The original ghouls much like the original supermutants are more funny and cartoony looking than actually creepy to me.

What they should look like? FO1 and FO2 show what they should look like. Ghouls in FO3 just look burned but other then that fine. Ghouls are supposed to be falling apart, they are to be zombie like. Slow and very decayed looking. I hope they get redesigned. I am sure if it has not been done by now it's not going to be. They redesigned Super Mutants so I am hoping they did something for the ghouls.

» Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:16 pm

I greatly prefer the Ghouls in Fallout 1 myself. I wish they could manage that kind of detail in Gamebryo.