From when you first meet Gob, To the city of Underworld, What Do you guys think about these so called "normal ghouls." Do they make you puke? Do you look at them as adorable little playthings? Do you feel it is your job to hunt down and end the ghouls of the wastelands suffering. Tell us your opinion.

I don't see normal ghouls as suffering to be honest. And when I first saw Gob two years ago I mentally said 'huh, wonder what happened to him'. I wasnt horrified, more curious, as F3 was my first fallout.

Ghouls are people, just... uh, ickier.

ghouls are people too :flamethrower:

Oh, God. I've been through this a million times, and hopefully some people know who I feel about these disgusting creatures.... well, that's kind of a hint, isn't it?

A lot of ghouls are hostile and very aggressive, i.e. Roy Phillips and the ghoul wastelanders they find at their village. And they have the cheek to call people bigots, when they go around insisting they aren't human... well don't expect us to treat you like one, then.
It seems to me they're always suspicious -- just look at Underworld; nearly every zombie bastard there wants you dead because they think you're going to try and kill them, or something.

There's a lot of self pitying with them, too. I don't give a toss if you look like a rotting corpse, get on with your life and get used to it -- just because I don't like you, doesn't mean everyone else feels the same. Jesus.
Bessie Lynn is one of the worst examples; 'Oh, I used to be pretty but now no one looks at me anymore!' Really, she's been a ghoul for how many years now? Accept who you are, you filthy vermin. That's not the worse part about her, though, but I'd rather Holy Assassin explains it...

Then you've got Gob. Seems like a nice enough bloke, but he always finds it during his time of the day to feel sorry for yourself. The more he moans and complains about Moriarty the less chance he's got of getting back to Underworld. He automatically thinks because you're a human, you're going to hit him or insult him. Well, I will now.
Oh, wait, he doesn't ever go back to Underworld! Go on, kill Moriarty, free Gob from the Irishman's clutches. What does the ghoul do? Takes over the saloon. What happened to 'I'm going back to my home if I am freeded'? Don't say 'he needed the money', as he'd inherit everything Moriarty earned. He went back on his promise... a promise his mother. Spineless wimp.

And how could I forget the ferals? You never know when a 'regular' might turn, and we shouldn't have to always be watching our backs.

If we want the country to be great again, these animals will have to go. They're a ticking timebomb, and that is not acceptable.

NB4 Bittercup orgisms all over this thread about great ghouls are.

I don't know. i've neevr found Ghouls a problem, cept folks like Crowleys who are bigger [censored]s than an the one the Mammoth statue has.

@Chris- I beg to differ. A Pre-War ghoul could provide us with lost Knowledge, and a ghoul is allowed to live amongst regulars, so long as they dont show signs of being Feral. Any sign of Feralism is immediate grounds for execution.

I don't really mind ghouls as long as they are'nt hostile or they don't have something i willing to kill for, as far as i'm concerned they are just normal people how have had a case of really horrible luck.

I should have mentioned that I believe only ghouls with very, very special abilities will be allowed to live. I'm not sure if being a pre-war ghoul is that valuable, to be honest, as the Enclave has plenty of pre-war data.
Though, maybe their first hand experience could prove useful. I don't know, I'll have to think about it.

And then Chris has an Eden unsurity moment. Will his internal logic systems fail? :laugh:

Unfortunately, not everything can be so clear cut at this moment in time. My people will meet and decide.

If you truly want my opinion, here it is: those ghouls are not needed, and should disappear. But this may not reflect how everybody feels, and I refuse to dictate. I will let my people speak, as all men have freedom of speech.

To paraphrase:


Yay! Kill everyone!

How dare you tell me what my beliefs are? If you have an opinion, then express it, but don't go around putting words into people's mouths.

And half of what you said is nonsense... in fact all of it is. How are most wastelanders hostile? I don't mean raiders, I mean the scavengers you find. They've always been friendly to me, and do a good job of providing the helpless wastelanders with supplies.

How could you claim I don't care about the wasteland? If I didn't give a toss, then why would I be allied with the Enclave? I want to build on what there is, not just leave it to die and purge anything and anyone with a mutation. I'm not Eden.

Personally I don't really hate Ghouls for being Ghouls, but as Three Dog says Ghouls are people too! And well... people aren't exactly the nicest creatures on the planet, so why should the fact that Ghouls are just like people mean that they're all good guys?

Oh but you worship the pathetic likeness of the enclave (little E on purpose) and yet find faults in Ghouls who are just a new formed "race" of human kind. Sure you got bad ones, and feral ones but there are plenty of good ones out there too. People like those enclave likers are a poor example of what a new "U.S." needs.

And thank goodness the country would be better off without enclave zealots because they are the ticking time bomb, friggen Eden is just a AI and enclave troops mindlessly obey him. enclave troops kill anyone in the wasteland for no reason, Anyone from escaped slaves to mere merchants with a brahmin carring his stuff. Is that what a country needs?

Ya idiots like the enclave sure is a much more wiser choice (that was sarcasm) considering how normal Ghouls are trying to stay out of peoples way in Underworld and researching how to cure their own (that doctor in Underworld said he is close to discovering the cause of the ghoulification ) and even saved Riley.

I found Ghouls near places who were on their way to Underworld but too bad no game options allowed me to escort them to safety.

Ghouls are people too. Do normal people go "feral" in real life?, for example Gary (I hate to use him because he is funny) is not only crazy but displays a feral mind. Does that mean we humans are a ticking timebomb the enclave should exterminate?

I made my point.

NAUGHTY! How VULGAR of you, Colonel. *slaps wrist*

I don't think I really need to say anything after that, do I? XD
Honestly, it'll only get derailed into the actual floor. It'll melt like warm Nutella. So, in respect for the OP, my signature will tell you all you need to know.

The wasteland wouldn't be the same without ghouls. Personally, I like the ones who are sociable, but I'm not mad on the ones running around the train stations (except, I love the weird noises they make). The ones I really don't like are the glowing ghouls - they're hard to take out. I think ghouls are fun.

Like He said, Personally the human race are not my favorite bunch in the Oh Great Capital Wasteland. So I hoped the Underworld citizens did not take it personally when I enslaved there citizens, killed everyone else, And as I watched Charons Head roll through the air, I laughed a little at his little Swiss cheese face. Most towns should not let me in, but they do. Just Saying.

*insert Abomination cry/point* D8<

A LOT OF GHOULS? The only Ghouls I find aggressive are the Ferals. What can ya expect? They've LOST the will to reason! I would've gone Feral, too, if people didn't accept me for what I've turned in to! And Wastelanders; sure...there are a few occasional Ghoulish Wastelanders, but 'ey, as the saying goes, "the survival of the fittest". They're just doing what they must in order to survive. It looks BAD on their part, but you got'a do what you can, and that's kill or BE killed :/

As for the Ghouls in Underworld? If they WANTED you dead, why haven't they done it yet, huh? What's stopping them? It's a city versus one; they could easily KILL you. If Ghouls are as vicious as you portrayed them, then why is a city of Ghouls not willing to take out one lone little Wastelander? I find that peculiar, don't ya think? And Roy? Sure, he ACTS hostile towards you, but he never ATTACKS you. Hell,

It's not the Ghouls' fault for turning in to what they are now. A million bombs were dropped on their heads; they didn't WANT to be exposed to the radiation and be turned in to what looks like half-rotting corpses. Underneath that post-necrotic flesh, a human being lives. The only reason they're looked upon as a different race, was because the people that HAVEN'T been exposed to so much radiation are too blind and ignorant to realize that Ghouls are humans, too; just terribly disfigured.

And Ghouls turning in to Ferals? I don't believe it's an over-time process that's BOUND to happen to them. It's not because of their, how should I say...'new biology' that they turn in to Ferals. It's a psychological thing. Being alone in a world that shuns you for what you've become? A monster? A zombie bent on consuming human flesh? And overtime, that human hate becomes your own personal hate, and it seethes down so deeply that it makes you go completely bonkers, and bent on obliterating any human that dares stray in your path? In truth, I don't blame Ferals for becoming Ferals :/ They might attack me, but at least I'm putting them out of their misery. I feel BAD for it, but...at least they're in a better place, rather than living in a world where they're hated just for their looks :/

The entirety of that post makes me actually furious. I kid you not, my blood is boiling.

I might make respond later when I've cleared my head, but really, it's going to be a long post of what I've said a gazillion times... I don't like repeating myself. After that, people will reply with the same crap they've been saying.

But I will say one thing: you're a complete fool for saying the humans in Tenpenny deserve to die! Are you [censored] serious! Yes, they're a bit snobby, but they earned that way into that tower, so why should they have to let Roy and his gang in? What has Roy done? Nothing! It's their choice, live with it, zombie.
I'm sorry, but you really pissed me off with that 'they deserve to die because they're bigots' comment.

And don't say Underworld could kill me. That's ridiculous. They're armed with crappy weapons and I have myself and my team. In fact, I scared Winthrop so much that he gave me everything Underworld had... he knew I'd kill him and the rest.

They are annoying. They look at ya with disgust, talk trash constantly, also look, and smell like a 200 year old dead body. Seriously whats to like about them? There are two ghouls I like Desmond, and Charon. The rest can become feral for all I care. I will be waiting patiently with my combat shotgun for when that time comes.

Alright, MAYBE I was a little out of my way saying that, but if they don't like the fact of having a few Ghoulie residents, then why not live there at all? Ghouls aren't gonna eat you, they just want to have the same safety as the people in Tenpenny tower. With all due respect, the only person that TRULY deserves to die in that place is that old hag-bag, Alistair. The Chengs didn't deserve to die, nor did that...radio...star...guy, whatever his name is, but the others? They could have just moved out. Instead, they picked a fight with ol' Roy because they didn't want him to live there.

And yeah, Roy takes it a little too far out'a context by...killing everyone in the tower. HE'S the only one making an ass out of himself; not everyone else. Just because one Ghoul goes out of his way to kill people because of their snitty disapproval doesn't mean the entire body of Ghouls are just as bad as him.

And one more comment; don't get too mad with people and their opinions. If we can't say what you don't want us to say, then just...don't bother with it :/

*clears throat*

Im glad I came across this thread. Allow me to first introduce myself as the most outspoken in my hatred towards Ghouls. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1110008-why-i-hate-ghouls/page__p__16269339__fromsearch__1&#entry16269339 would highlight why I harbor such distaste for the foul beings.

Alas, it is a very long post as you may have noticed, and has been locked for the singular reason that the mods are Ghoul Lovers lesser beings derailed that great topic.

Those vile cretins left a bad taste in my mouth, they did.

Long story short, aside from a precious few of the Ghouls, they fall under two categories, whiners or murderers.

Anyhow, I can't say anything more than what has been said in my own topic, as it would be far too long. However I shall add something I omitted there.

A Note To Ghoul Lovers: I know you shall all rain down upon me with great loathing and anger. I know you would fight to the death for those pathetic vermin. I know that I shall be labeled as a bigot. But know this; You too fight and kill the ferals with just as much distaste as any other. You too choose not think when shooting them down. They are Ghouls too. Feral. But still Ghouls. So, who's the real bigot?

All Ghoul's should be killed. All of them, exterminated. For the greater good of mankind, for the greater good of the country. Anyone who disputes my views, or feels they have an inquiry may PM me, and I shall explain my feelings further.

Let The Fights Begin
:D
Go Opposite Feelings towards Ghouls.

Ghouls. Cheese grater faced humans or irradiated beef jerky?

Beef Jerky is good.

I wouldn't even feed a Ghoul to a Molerat. Honestly.