Only for nudity, though. And it didn't even include all of it.

Honestly I dont expect Skyrim to have a lot of Mature content, just like Oblivion. I mean...besides maybe the blood.


Even though romance is confirmed I dont think there will be anything sixual in the game, just judging from past TES games, and as for swearing--well, there wasnt any in Oblivion besides "Take that, cur!"

Then why all the streamlining?

My son (He just turned 7) loves morrowind and I don't mind him playing it. Not much foul language and the violence isn't that graphic.
He's not playing Skyrim though. Too graphically violent.
Neither am I. Too simplistic.
Thanks todd..

Not quite.

Morrowind Game of the Year Edition
Platform: PC and Xbox?
ESRB Rating: Teen

There was enough content in Oblivion to push it to M. Skyrim will be as well, and if the devs do a great job, a toggle won't be able to get rid of Mature content. They should make the game they want to, and let the ratiing fall where ever the ESRB decides.

Turning off blood or gore should be easy. Changing the language so curse words and modded out would take a lot of time.

I always turn the blood/gore off on my games. I just don't need it and to be honest it's seldom realistic anyway.

"Streamlining" has nothing to do with children. advlts and gamers of all stripes can appreciate improved gameplay. (Except, of course, those people who use "streamlining" the same way they do "casual" - as a random term of bias, that has nothing to do with it's actual meaning.)

He'll most likely hear, see and probably do al ot worse in secondary school, best to prepare him for the crazy world we live in. I saw playe games with mature content when I was younger and I'm a perfectly well rounded and wholesome individual 0_0

easy - ship two copies - M rating can only be pre-ordered with drivers license as proof of age.

Uhm ... is tween someone between 20 and 29? That would be strange to cut their games for them ...

However, the idea is nice, but not very practical. Easier solution: don't let themplay it or make sure they understand it well. I actually doubt kids of an age in which they cannot handle Skyrim yet would even have much fun with it anyways. Especially if you also cut content away.

Not that I'm against M rated games or anything, but I wouldn't be so quick to drawing conclusions on what's going to be and what's not going to be in Skyrim... especially since the game isn't released yet. You could be proven wrong when the game is released. With finishing moves confirmed, I'm assuming that maybe Bethesda "tamed" some things for the gameplay video so that it wouldn't show possible dismembering and etc.

You can't just program all of the content in the game that could be considered offensive to be toggle-able for just for a small portion of players.. :shrug:

I'm 15 years old and I think I'm mature enough to play the game. It's a video game, in fact it's just made of pixels, and I don't really find red coloured pixel blood or getting married disturbing.

Considering Todd always mentions that they don't shoot for a rating, and the seeming fact that they don't really care, this is highly unlikely. Though I agree it would be a nice option to allow a wider audience to experience that epicness of Skyrim.

Daggerfall and Battlespire have childguards, why cant skyrim?

I don't remember anything in oblivion that a teenager couldn't hear or see. In fact I've played it with my mother sitting next to me. She's a hardcoe Christian and definitely wouldn't appreciate mature scenes.

Its going to be a 18 don't buy a 18 games for someone who is not 18 thats why its has 18 to show that only 18+ can play this 18 game

From one of the online dictionaries....



...I'd actually thought it was older than that, young teen for instance. :shrug:

Is it purely a european thing to think that any rating higher then T is a weird concept to begin with? Someone aged 14 that can't handle the same content in a game as someone 21 or up either has a problem or will not want to play the game in the first place.

It sometimes seems it's the parents that still believe in fairy tales.
1. that children are innocent
2. that games could corrupt their kids.

Skyrim. Rated E for Everyone

i have the best anwser of them all
Better Parenting
"hay mommy mommy, in that video game, i got to smash a bad guy in the face because he tryed to burn someone!"
"ok son, just understand voilence is not always the anwser."
"yes mom" :thumbsup:
Not this...
"Billy? why is that lady showing her belly button off, turn off this video game now because im a horrible parent that will never tell you anything about being advlt or proper behavior so that when we go to wallmart you are screaming to the top of your lungs because you want a toy. this will happen so often that when your older and have a girlfriend you won't understand NO and you get put on a bad list and go to jail, and not the monoply kind. :thumbsdown:

i know i exsagerated the age of the kid, im not a elites that thinks that theres only one way or the game will be ruined. yes a toggle on gorge and "other advlt themes" would be nice, like in gears of war 2. but parents should get invovled with their kids, watch them play this game, maybe play with them on other like halo. and yes all the good games that are coming out are rated M. don't Bulls**t me and tell me that its not true. there are M and theres E because if its T (newer teens because a few years ago the system was lacks) it has to fit the rating by the book, OB was F'd over by some picks that got upset by a 3rd party mod, thats how easy it is to not make it as a T, just somebody that wants to ruin your day can. Most games are all out or non at all. also like any good story, there has to conflict (every story has it! every cowboy movie, love story, ect) and the most thrilling conflict is combat, so its kill real bad guys or KO fake non humaiod things that are bad (because killing is bad so for are kids, ya right) because are culture is filled with bad parents that neglect their child and blam their bad behavior on something else and if something even has a bit of violence then people are going to file lawsuites in mostly vain atempts. because this whole culture has it head you its assests

o.O

So you want to be able to toggle off... the whole game? What would there be left to do if you cant talk or fight, run around in circles? TES is bloody, and violent, and there is racism and politics and weird kind of sixy in a very creepy way demon spider women. Off the top of my head Oblivion alone had necophilia references and people being flayed alive. Skyrim is reputed to be a more brutal environment than previous TES zones where games have taken place.

How about you just dont let a child play a game thats rated M, because its rated M for a reason. Multiple reasons, actually. You may toggle off "Blood" but you cant toggle off maturity. Just like you cant let a video game toggle parenting for you.

I played Oblivion when I was 10. Im 14 now, its not much of a mature game. Sure there is some suggestive stuff, but there's suggestive stuff in everyday life too. If they are teens and you're not letting them play a fantasy game because of mature content, then you're overprotecting them. The only swear I heard in oblivion was 'damn' and that was only a few times.

I doubt Skyrim will have any more. Also, everybody has seen blood in their life. If you're not letting them play because of blood, you're overprotecting them. I mean it makes sense in Fallout, because of the body parts flying everywhere. But TES isn't Fallout and wont have dismemberment.

Also, an example for suggestive stuff in everyday life.

Disney Channel.

http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv175/Proditus/Unnecessary.jpg

Win XD

what happens if you say yes to all ?? why is that not an option ?

If Bethesda wants to create a toggle for something like this, it's their call. What I don't understand is how violence in games is somehow okay with the "as long as I can turn off the blood so my kiddie can't see how violent killing something really is" argument. This has been going on ever since Mortal Kombat's "A B A C A B B" blood code back when I was in high school. There was not a generation of youths that took to the street to try out Scorpion's finishing move or to see if you really could spit enough acid like Reptile to melt a person standing three feet away. Similarly, I fail to see how the limitation of virtual blood diminishes the inherent violence of dragon slaying in any way. If the argument was to remove violence, then I would suggest not letting your children play the game. Lastly, we don't really know how bloody the game is going to be. We know it will be violent (what with the swords and dragons and fire and all), but how bloody remains to be seen. Do I want Fallout 3 Bloddy Mess exploding body parts and eyeballs bloody? Only if it fit with the artistic theme of the game. Do I want general "oh, look I cut something with my sharp thing" bloody? Absolutely.

I disagree. A mature game is a mature game. That's like asking the creators of 300 to make a version of the movie with all the gore removed. It's incredibly time consuming and unnecessary. If your kids aren't old enough, there are plenty of other games they could enjoy.