GNOMES? WHY NO GNOMES!

Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:55 pm

okay, in that case you could be talking about anything. in this series what we know as "house-cats" are both small and naturally very skilled in the art of magic, specifically destruction. many battles have been fought in valenwood and elsweyr where 'common house cats' have been flinging fireballs at the opposing army. does that make them gnomes?

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Nitol Ahmed
 
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:12 pm

If they're small and inherently magical in nature, yes. Sorry, if it doesn't fit with your RPG experience but, as I said, we all come from different role play pathways so I speak in definitive terms that are grounded in mythology which has been accepted for hundreds if not thousands of years. For all I know a cow in TES is called a whhojita. but if I see one I'm still calling it a cow.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:04 am

what im trying to say is that our mythology doesn't exist in this series. at all. the game devs might have used it for inspiration, but as far as the game goes no one in that universe has the slightest concept of what a gnome is, it just doesn't exist. so again I will repeat, there is no such thing as a gnome in the universe. calle small magical creatures what you want, but you're going to have a hard time corrected everyone and calling scamps, cats, bosmer, banekins etc etc gnomes.

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Robert Jackson
 
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:46 pm

Maybe we'll eventually get to play in Akaviri, with all those monster-like creatures :Q (to relive the akaviri invasion).

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:23 am

I know what you're saying, and I'm not trying to get people to call them gnomes. I'm just saying that they are (scamps at least). If a creature was introduced into the TES world and the authors called it a gnome (and it turned out to be a twenty foot behemoth) then that would be different. However, as you have reliably assured us, the word gnome doesn't exist in TES so it's a real world word just like road, bridge, raven, sheep, etc and can be used to describe aspects of the game as they fit into our real world dictionaries.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:00 am

Sorry, wrong universe.

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Allison C
 
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:51 am

OK, so what do you call a bridge in TES? What do you call a road? What's an eagle called?

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Marion Geneste
 
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:44 pm

Draconians..we need Draconians

/jk

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Matt Gammond
 
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:20 am

again, don't know why you need this explaining, but the universes don't overlap. so while things that exist in both have the same names, things that don't exist won't. we don't have sload, or taeseci, or khajiit in our world. we don't go calling things after them do we? its the same with gnomes.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:24 pm

Yea..I have to remember not to call them Rakshasas

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:56 am

I need it explaining because you are not explaining why I can understand the speech and text in a game that is in an apparently different universe.

The game, for most of us, is in English. It's in English because it's a translation for us because we don't speak whichever languages actually exist in that world. Road is a word in English, I assume you have no problem with me calling a road in TES a road. Eagle is an English word, I also assume you have no problem with me calling an Eagle and Eagle. Gnome is also a word in English (even if you were hitherto igorant of the fact), so why do you have a problem with me refering to gnomes in the game in the same way as you accept my use of other English words?

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:43 am

im going to have to remember not to call frost trolls yetis.

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Jessica Phoenix
 
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:21 am

Indeed -- no respect for other play styles...

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:21 pm

because eagle is a name appointed to that particular creature in game. road is the particular name appointed to that landscape feature in the game.

Nowhere in the game is anything referred to as a gnome. so you can't just go around calling everything a gnome. if the devs wanted something to be known as a gnome they would have called it a gnome.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:40 pm

So are there any other English words I'm not allowed to use? Pardon my ignorance but I don't seem to have been given a lexicon with the game. I mean, if I try to tell a friend that I'm waiting for him at the plateau near the polar bears, are polar bears and plateau designated words in the TES universe?

I hope the majority of TES fans are not as intolerant to others with a wider appreciation for RPG games.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:45 am

Why don't people learn the "right" names to call chars in TES, instead of mix up RL myth into TES lore?

C'mon respect the lore -- is that asking to much? We are willing to teach you the lore and all we ask in term try to use that knowledge. If it is not in a game book somewhere, it is not part of lore -- end of story.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:12 pm

yes they are.

im not saying you can't use them, im saying that you can't go around correcting people and saying 'well those are pretty much gnomes, so just call them that.' the game has names for a reason.

and don't try and spin that out on me. acting as if your the only one who plays other games. each game universe is special, with its own lore, history.. everything.

most of us just don't try to mash the universes together because 'lol english'

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:32 am

Some people are silly and to lazy to learn the lore, MR. http://www.gamesas.com/user/926839-thete/ here. I do not care what RL myth is called, that race is not named in the game, it does exist. Since TES, does not have it -- thus it does not exist in that multi-verse.

If you are talking a different game or movie, it may or may not exist for that game / movie.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:00 pm

apparently it is yes.

im just going to call khajiit kitty cats.

and remember you can't call dunmer dark elves because you'll be told off for political correction!

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:30 pm

I call them kitties and you can't stop me. NPCs call them cats too, and threaten to make rugs out of them.

And then there are drow. :hehe:

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:07 pm

I know I was joking :L

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carley moss
 
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:15 pm

Gnomes svck, indeed.

Mer can have beards.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:35 am

I'm not talking about

I'm not talking about a mythological creature for these later purposes. I'm talking about a word in the English dictionary. You just seem to be going defensive because your community is being expanded. I understand, it's no different to communities that have a sudden influx of migrants and begin throwing out such phrases as 'Haven't they got funny ways?' and 'That's not how things are done around these parts'. Not to worry, no need to be nasty, I'll make sure to make it clear in any guild applications I make that I am playing a game and am no way interested in the company of people such as yourself. That should keep you apart while I call polar bears polar bears, rodents rodents and gnomes, gnomes.

edit: Oh and dark elves dark elves; I'll be doing that a lot.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:00 am

So learn the names then -- simple.

If do not know the names or refused to use if do know, IMHO, you are being silly and lazy. If you were trying to learn the names and used them, even with mistakes, that is a different story. We will be willing to teach you then, only if you are willing to learn. Since you are not doing, you will be classified as a "TES lore hater." It does not matter if like other RL / games / movie lore or now -- we are talking about TES lore here, thus we should use the "right" names going TES lore. Mistakes are fine to make and one need to learn from them.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:47 pm

If do that -- in char, this one will have some new weapons and hide armor. If you are joking out side the char, that will be ok to a point.

Not you, but general talking, I really hate when people try to change lore into something that it is not. Only ZOS / Bethesda has the right to change lore, not players.

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