God Killing

Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:31 am

In Morrowind 3 we get to kill a self-made God. It seems to me that all deities are self-made in Tamriel. Like that Tiberius Septimus fellow. That was fun. I felt I accomplished something to make me a legend.

Anyway, what Im getting at is that we got to thwart Mehrunes Dagon, kill Vivec, kill a certain daedric prince of order, kill Umaril the Unfettered who was rather godly in his own way, and so on. Now we're facing down Alduin the Dragon God.

But what about the Nine? Like Stendar, and Kynareth etc. If we can get to knock off big shots then why not the Nine? They would make the most interesting battles. I would like to go on a killing spree and usher in a new religion. Hunting down each of the Nine and destroying them in turn ending with Akatosh whose soul we'd devour.

My question is this: would you like to hunt down and kill the Nine in Skyrim?
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:57 am

I know, that games like this owe much of their appeal to the "epic" factor regarding the story, and that is fine. But I quite like it when my character isn't strong enough yet, or at all, to face down godlike beings. I am content with killing trolls and ogres in dungeons.
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Janine Rose
 
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:28 am

We're probably not going to kill Alduin, as getting rid of the god of time would be problematic.
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Kay O'Hara
 
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:28 pm

To kill the gods...can we mortals do that? We can!

Brothers! Sisters! The gods are weak! We can soon be free of all opression!

TO FREEDOM!

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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:51 pm

We can't kill Alduin because that would, you know, end time itself.

As for the rest: They're literally a part of the world. Killing them could be possible, sure, but very unwise. Besides, I sincerely doubt Talos will let that [censored] fly, and he's very powerful according to Kirkbride. He mantled Lorkhan, after all.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:51 am

Yes.

Not healing my diseases because I stole a pewter spoon? Unforgivable.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:12 pm

If we kill a god, I would hope that there will be world changing side effects and consequences instead of just a slap on the wrist and us going along like it was no big deal.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:29 pm

Isn't he like, the Deadric god of time?

Also, to OP, I think Mancar (or Mankar, whatever) said that the Nine are mortal being who decieved a Deadric prince, who is immortal, and took over Tamriel, which is actually a plane of Oblivion, and Mehrunes is trying to get it back for the Deadra. So if he's right, in theory we could defeat the Nine, but I don't think we can do that in Skyrim.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:46 am

Yes.

Not healing my diseases because I stole a pewter spoon? Unforgivable.

How dare you steal a pewter spoon?! The gods shall have your head!
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:55 pm

I sincerely doubt Talos will let that [censored] fly, and he's very powerful according to Kirkbride.


The most powerful, IIRC.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:43 am

Isn't he like, the Deadric god of time?

Also, to OP, I think Mancar (or Mankar, whatever) said that the Nine are mortal being who decieved a Deadric prince, who is immortal, and took over Tamriel, which is actually a plane of Oblivion, and Mehrunes is trying to get it back for the Deadra. So if he's right, in theory we could defeat the Nine, but I don't think we can do that in Skyrim.



Mankar is also bat[censored] insane. Nothing in the lore backs up what he said.

And Alduin isn't daedric, he's another one of Akatosh/Auriels...well...personalities(maybe not the right word).
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:43 pm

The most powerful, IIRC.

Supposedly, but I'd still personally attribute that rank to Akatosh, since his existence is what made the existence of everything else possible. Without Akatosh there is no time and without time there is nothing.

Also, in reminding me of lore you have made it so that I will never be able to stop giggling at your name.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:20 pm

Supposedly, but I'd still personally attribute that rank to Akatosh, since his existence is what made the existence of everything else possible. Without Akatosh there is no time and without time there is nothing.

Also, in reminding me of lore you have made it so that I will never be able to stop giggling at your name.


Actually Sithis is responsible for all life.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:11 pm

Supposedly, but I'd still personally attribute that rank to Akatosh, since his existence is what made the existence of everything else possible. Without Akatosh there is no time and without time there is nothing.

Also, in reminding me of lore you have made it so that I will never be able to stop giggling at your name.


Depends on if you consider importance to be power.

Also, thank you, you're the first one to comment on that.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:07 pm

We can't kill Alduin because that would, you know, end time itself.

As for the rest: They're literally a part of the world. Killing them could be possible, sure, but very unwise. Besides, I sincerely doubt Talos will let that [censored] fly, and he's very powerful according to Kirkbride. He mantled Lorkhan, after all.

Actually I think Akatosh was the Dragon God of Time. Alduin is sometihng else, a Dragon God but I dunno of what. In the Elder Scrolls series, killing a daedric prince and using some artifact of power that he has allows you to assume his powers and role essentially becoming something of a god - immortality is not certain but probable. So Im assuming by killing other gods it leaves a power vacuum and an opportunity to ascend the ranks of the gods - but no need to stop there, there are other gods that need to be usurped and ended.

How dare you steal a pewter spoon?! The gods shall have your head!

And the whole being spied on by gods irks me. I say off with their heads!
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:27 am

isnt alduin a nine?
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:19 am

Actually I think Akatosh was the Dragon God of Time. Alduin is sometihng else,


Aka=Alduin.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1156804-who-is-this-alduin/page__p__16941328
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:48 am

If we kill a god, I would hope that there will be world changing side effects and consequences instead of just a slap on the wrist and us going along like it was no big deal.

Alduin is Akatosh, Akatosh is Aedra, Aedra and Daedra are different only in that the Daedra did not partake in the creation Nirn.
To kill an Aedra would simply reform in Aetherius, just as Daedra reform in Oblivion. (I think?)
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:18 am

In The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind we get to kill a self-made God. It seems to me that all deities are self-made in Tamriel. Like that Tiber Septim fellow.


Fixed for you.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:51 am

Isn't he like, the Deadric god of time?

Also, to OP, I think Mancar (or Mankar, whatever) said that the Nine are mortal being who decieved a Deadric prince, who is immortal, and took over Tamriel, which is actually a plane of Oblivion, and Mehrunes is trying to get it back for the Deadra. So if he's right, in theory we could defeat the Nine, but I don't think we can do that in Skyrim.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:47 pm

Actually Sithis is responsible for all life.


Padomay is the counter to Anu that made existence possible, but without Akatosh nothing could maintain form to any significant degree. A level of the Godhead's dream "woke up" when he materialized.

Depends on if you consider importance to be power.

Also, thank you, you're the first one to comment on that.


Well, if Akatosh ceased to be then reality would begin to unwind. Even Talos would begin to lose definition.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:24 pm

To kill an Aedra would simply reform in Aetherius, just as Daedra reform in Oblivion. (I think?)


i don't want to get to into it because my knowledge about this is limited, but I know that sounds wrong. The aedra are bound to Nirn Mundus.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:03 pm

I love you OP

yes it is actually a dream of mine to hunt down and kill the nine

with extreme prejudice
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:48 pm

Alduin is Akatosh, Akatosh is Aedra, Aedra and Daedra are different only in that the Daedra did not partake in the creation Nirn.
To kill an Aedra would simply reform in Aetherius, just as Daedra reform in Oblivion. (I think?)


Close, but no banana. The Aedra can't physically manifest on Nirn because they are physically manifested in Mundus. They are the planets. As such, they have no actual physical embodiment on Nirn, and therefore cannot be killed.
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Post » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:08 pm

I love you OP

yes it is actually a dream of mine to hunt down and kill the nine

with extreme prejudice


why? I don't really care about the aedra one way or the other, but I'm curious about your logic.
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