There is a very real side affect to wanting caves to behave as exteriors. You lose localized control over lighting. The entire cell, regardless of if you should see it or not, will be lit if the ambient light values are set high enough. Drop them low enough for it to no longer be a problem and you'd almost certainly never get what you were after. It's generally not worth it given the hassles of the engine.

You just want it before anyone else gets it :frog:

ya me to oh and here is a http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/0c92ce7c892c29ebe861308d1630379b58b9e103.png when i was a level 2 vamp. so i had HDR and bloom its an old pic

Then perhaps get the sunrays as a mesh to look better than the default ones.

Its not like that. I wanna test the shader because I think I found a way to make things work. Although its not for certain. Idid try to make my own and I'll show some screens here soon.

So... MGE is out stably now right? I think I shall buy Morrowind GOTY. I always knew how much everyone loved it and it looks amazing (not literally) but I'm not sure I think the graphics held me back a little I was always going to but now I think I will.
Yay and for OBGE will it be possible to have different water types/conditions so in stormy weather I can have stormy water? Is it possible to have large waves? If yes how do you make them? If you need any help at all with this kind of thing I am more than willing to help and will help to the best of my ability (which isn't that high yet) but hey I'm a fast learner

I think it would also be cool with a future OBGE to create wet looking surfaces when it rains. I bet that would be possible later on.

As if Oblivion's surfaces weren't shiny enough already.

Haha, well shiny yes, but when it rains, some surfaces should look glossy. Other surfaces, such as dirt surfaces should look darker.

I always wondered whether it was possible to have the sun melt just a bit of snow in bruma and when it snows in other places to actually add snow to the ground...

If you mean those nasty looking bluish light beam things in caves, you'll get no argument from me. Those things look terrible. Fixing those to look better doesn't require shader magic though.

I've actually got this in my to-do list of things for Enhanced Seasons, a WIP I'm making. I'm thinking of having regional water differences and weather water differences too. But I've put shaders for ScreenEffects-like effects before that, and I'm stuck on the final shader effect.



Yeah, I fell in love with Crysis' rain shader. It shouldn't be that difficult to do, though I bet you you need depth buffer or something for it to work properly.

This would also mean awesome interior weather effects with All Natural - just apply the shader to the interior window panes.




Snow is a lot harder than rain to get looking right... Even Crysis' snow/ice shader looks a bit rubbish on larger objects.

Wow, that would be amazing.

I found where the game keeps track of the depth buffer. It creates a NiDX9ImplicitDepthStencilBufferData singleton.

In theory all I would have to do it hook the singleton's constructor. Create a new depth buffer in one of the readable formats and switch it with the existing one. The tricky part is what to do when the graphics device is lost e.g. when you alt-tab.

I also found http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/Advanced%20DX9%20Capabilities%20for%20ATI%20Radeon%20Cards.pdf. It shows a way of reading a normal depth buffer using an ati card. (Read the RESZ section). Unfortunately it will only work on the newer ati cards and not on any nvidia cards.

I'm concentrating on getting the basic form of OBGE converted over at the moment. Once I've done that I can start working on the (even) more difficult stuff.

Freaking sweet.

yes well you should not alt-tab. in Oblivion from read me INPUT
-ALT+TAB may cause some game instability with some hardware configurations and is not advised. lol i get CTD soon after if i do so i dont do it lol

It doesn't quite work like that. It's something that is calculated on the fly, from the sun, which goes back to Arthmoor's original post. :shrug: If you wanted to have the static godrays like what vtastek has got so far, you still need a sun source, it's not something that you can capture and use as a replacement mesh.

Then I'm sure there's a way to make static light beam meshes that look better than vanilla's.

That's great news scanti , a few steps closer to depth buffers
Keep up the great work :icecream:

I agree with Mr Tissue Box, freaking sweet!

I was wandering wrinklyninja, when you wrote about your Enhanced Seasons WIP, do you plan to use Texian's Animated Water Meshes - Shorline:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rXs8OT4kDA

- http://www.filefront.com/6660458/Texians-Animated-Water-Meshes---Shorline-1.0/

Or do you need to wait to scanti is finished rewriting the OBGE?

No and no, as far as I know. I haven't actually seen what I can do yet, so I'm not sure how effective what I can change will be. Though I will be modifying the vanilla water shader through a script, so if that gets a do-over by OBGE, then I'd have to probably change stuff for it to work with that. All this potential stuff depends on potential changes to potential shaders.

Hey vtastek, do you got some eye candy for us today ? :angel:

@scanti
Great news. For sun position, maybe a script/math expert can reconstruct an approximation...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty_lc0y93ew&hd=1

Holy **** dude! Kick ***!!!!! I now fully understandy why they're called "god"rays!!!!