Wow, that looks good.

Shaders could transfer over from Morrowind fairly easily couldn't they? All that you would need is something to find the three position vectors and something to insert the code into the game.

Im not sure but i think its more complicated than just that. Timeslip talked about on his homepage how he converted mge from using morrowinds dx8 to dx9 and with OBGE taking dx9 to dx10. Im guessing that will also apply to shaders...but im no shader language guru so we will have to have one of the big shots stop by here and take a look see.

DX10 Oblivion? Interesting.

Quoted from Timeslips page on the Oblivion Graphics extender section:



Note sure what that means but I assumed it applied to shaders for oblivion as well

Oh and static shadows are available in morrowind. It was a locked part of the morrowind code patch but its highly unstable. You can even do the creature option with meshes to get high detail shadows also.

OBGE works with dx9, not dx10, afaik. And after downloading MGE and taking a look at the shaders it contains, I don't see why we couldn't just port them across with little or no changes, since both MGE and Oblivion/OBGE work in dx9. Of course, the shaders working would require the same backend and knowledge of Oblivion's vectors and camera stuff that we don't know about as MGE had access to. But that's for someone who can code in C (or whatever) to work out, and is the bit that OVEP got stuck on AFAIK.

And MGE does have some pretty cool looking shaders. I'd like to see them applied in game, for sure.

Cool conversation, would be nice to get those in Oblivion... I didn't know MGE was capable of that either.

Not a huge problem for me though, as modded Oblivion is still one of the best looking games I know of. Adding in a ton of math equations for godrays will only make it run more crappy than it already does on my computer

FYI almost all the dx10 features in Crysis, godrays included, actually work just fine with dx9. (I love modded STALKER but skipped Clear Sky... so my only godray experience is with Crysis)

The Morrowind pics look fantastic!

If you and what wrinklyninja said was right, then someone should try to port some shaders over. I for one would love to see a godrays, SSAO, and DoF shader for oblivion.

I'm sure I've asked this before, but what's SSAO?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_Space_Ambient_Occlusion

An easy way to see the difference is with a few before/after screenshots of the an SSAO shader written for Morrowind's MGE:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot152.jpg/http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot151.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot144.jpg/http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot143.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot163.jpg/http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot162.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot160.jpg/http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot159.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot142.jpg/http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot141.jpg

Does a lot for shadows in MGE. Cuts the framerate in half though, haha

God, oblivion would benefit so much from SSAO, god rays, proper DOF, and static shadows..

More specifically, it would for those who have the proper hardware. I barely scratch 20 fps outdoors in Morrowind with HDR, SSAO, DOF, Bloom and Distant Land on. Granted, Morrowind isn't as optimized as Oblivion, but I imagine the end result wouldn't be very favorable for my only-slightly-higher-than-midrange system.

I imagine you would get roughly the same results. As you say, OB is more optimized with it's code which is where MW falls down.

At the same time, I am sure the average gamer has a much improved hardware now then when oblivion was released back in 2006. So it is not entirely inappropriate.

Oblivion will run pretty smoothly with those shaders. First, we should think about adding real HDR and better bloom before godrays and such.

Hi, I am the author of http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1033023&hl= for MGE/Morrowind. I've just checked the shaders for OBSE, they are identical. This means most of the shaders for Morrowind can be converted to Oblivion easily. The problem is richness of variables and features we can pass to shaders with MGE, yesterday we gain access to two new variables which led to this.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/caustics/Morrowind-MGE02.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/caustics/Morrowind-MGE11.jpg

All HDR shaders can be converted to Oblivion easily.
Godrays need sun position to work, note when I first started the Godrays wip, those variables were not accessible too. With enough brainstorming godrays might be added. I am not experienced with inner works of OBSE, I saw it uses scripts to enable shaders. I wish it was possible to add them as easy as MGE.

I will try something for you... Wish me luck.

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNNh2wY2SRM

I wish you luck. If you can give us Godrays in Oblivion, you will be an even more popular person

VERY nice.

Are you sure you mean obSe and not obGe though?

Good luck sir

I am not doing it for fame. http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1042699&view=findpost&p=15170151 drew my attention.


See, I have no idea.

PS. Can somebody point me to the right tool and documentations for it as well as some existed shader mods? Thank you.

http://timeslip.chorrol.com/obge.html